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8812 David Nicholls
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May 1, 2005
9:37 am
Steve, this is the point I was getting at in my question a couple of weeks ago about commitment (perhaps better to say attachment) to dogma (perhaps better to...
8813 myshalom777@...
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May 1, 2005
12:13 pm
In a message dated 30/04/2005 20:41:34 GMT Standard Time, thedude6752000@... writes: That, my friend, is the dumbest thing I have ever hear. Josephus...
8814 myshalom777@...
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May 1, 2005
12:38 pm
In a message dated 01/05/2005 10:38:11 GMT Standard Time, djnicholls@... writes: Steve, this is the point I was getting at in my question a couple of ...
8815 Malcolm Schosha
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May 1, 2005
1:01 pm
... .......................... This is only because of the on-going violence of Christians against Jews for most of Christian history. In eastern Europe, where...
8816 David Nicholls
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May 1, 2005
1:31 pm
... In brief...but how do you know what is in fact "revelation", and how do you know that your own interpretation is correct? By your own human judgement,...
8817 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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May 1, 2005
3:43 pm
Cecil wrote: ______________ Now then, if stoicism is all about living according to Nature in its naturalistic and ethical dimensions how then do you know what...
8818 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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May 1, 2005
3:48 pm
... Certainly David. The way a friend of mine put it: Don't concern yourself with spirituality right now. Get you psychology straightened out first. This...
8819 Malcolm Schosha
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May 1, 2005
6:36 pm
... ........... Cecil, It is an important question, although I have the impression that you are just searching for weak points. The ideal model combines,...
8820 Dave Kelly
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May 1, 2005
6:54 pm
... I noted that, too, Cecil. I don't know about it being the starting point, but it seems to me that Stoicism requires faith in the rationality and goodness...
8821 erin roberts
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May 1, 2005
7:28 pm
i haven't read every posting in this thread yet, but just thought that maybe a clearer definition of our term 'faith' could help. if we take it to mean ...
8822 Dave Kelly
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May 1, 2005
8:23 pm
Hi Erin, ... Faith defined as 'knowledge' seems inadequate. Shouldn't some notion of confidence, trust, even belief, be in the definition? Best wishes, Dave --...
8823 Malcolm Schosha
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May 1, 2005
10:10 pm
... ............... Erin, There is a book review from today's NYTimes, which does not use the word "faith"; but in its conclusion discusses what amounts to...
8824 Jan E Garrett
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May 2, 2005
3:38 am
Entirely apart from the issue of Stoicism, this shows no knowledge whatsoever of Marxism. In real Marxism (as opposed to Stalinism) there was no "ideal"...
8825 Nigel Glassborow
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May 2, 2005
10:19 am
Coming back to Robin's original statement, 'I'm also reminded of Arnold's introduction to Aurelius' Meditations, where he implied that religion (in this case...
8826 Nigel Glassborow
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May 2, 2005
10:19 am
Cecil says: 'Dear Gentlemen .... I must say i found Nigel's (thestoa) post most helpful in many ways : 1) an admission that there is a Faith starting point to...
8827 Nigel Glassborow
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May 2, 2005
10:19 am
Cecil asks, 'Where there are Buddhists there has been Buddha. where there are Mohamedans there has been Mohamed, and where there are Christians there has been...
8828 milan_bll Offline Send Email May 2, 2005
1:15 pm
... determinism" is correct, does this conflict with the idea of free will? ... We have the tendency to think of the world as unity of objects related one to...
8832 brian.zimmer@...
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May 2, 2005
4:22 pm
Before anyone gets their hackles-up I admit to being one myself. As a Quaker Christian (not all Quakers are) and novice Stoic, I thought others here might be...
8833 Malcolm Schosha
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May 2, 2005
5:01 pm
Gich, Thanks for the explanation, but actually I do understand this. I suppose there is the tendency to think of faith as relating to certain 'religious'...
8835 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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May 2, 2005
6:02 pm
Gich wrote: ______________ I'm trying to understand the meaning of "Stoicism" as you and others in this group use the term. Could you please give me a brief...
8836 Malcolm Schosha
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May 2, 2005
6:54 pm
... ..................... Gich, In Stoic physics God is defined (to quote Keith) as "a type of fiery breath that blends perfectly with all other matter in the...
8837 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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May 2, 2005
8:03 pm
First a quote from Malcolm: ______________ This whole thing with 'my team (religion, philosophy) is better than your team is the ruination of humanity. ...
8838 lblissett
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May 2, 2005
8:51 pm
Dear People, Though I am new here, and also relatively new to Stoicism, I must nevertheless voice some concerns regarding this entire matter of spirituality....
8839 Jack Death
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May 2, 2005
9:01 pm
Before the advent of Christianity and Islam, monofascism, faith and reason were one and the same. Pliny, Seneca, and Plotinus all worshipped the Gods of their...
8840 Malcolm Schosha
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May 2, 2005
9:54 pm
Steve & Oxsana Marquis <marquis@...> wrote: OK Dave, Malcolm, Nigel, all. Give me a good reason for faith consitent with Stoicism. ...
8841 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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May 2, 2005
10:55 pm
Good enough Malcolm. Thanks, Live well Steve Steve & Oxsana Marquis <marquis@...> wrote: OK Dave, Malcolm, Nigel, all. Give me a good reason for faith...
8842 Dave Kelly
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May 2, 2005
11:58 pm
Hi Steve, That's a lot to deal with, so I'll just put something down to get us started, and hope that Nigel contributes from his more comprehensive and richer...
8843 Jan E Garrett
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May 3, 2005
1:58 am
I have addressed this whole question of pain in classical Stoicism in my article, "Is the Sage Free from Pain?" The translation that Malcolm found adds more...
8844 Rick Bamford
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May 3, 2005
2:17 am
... Some men. Perhaps even most. But not all of us. It takes only a single contrary example to prove a statement incorrect, so yours is incorrect. To some...
8845 Keith Seddon
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May 3, 2005
10:23 am
... No tedium for me. I would like to see your discussion. Best wishes, Keith...
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