Perhaps this article can be attributed to a 'defect of memory' like learning was to Plato, or perhaps it is a fantastic piece of creation. He either confused...
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erin roberts
roberts_erin
Jan 13, 2005 6:22 am
Does anybody know where I can find Stoics discussions of hope? EIther Latin or Greek sources would be fine... Thanks a lot, Erin ...
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John Laerum
jlaerum
Jan 13, 2005 9:05 am
Hope is mentioned in Seneca's letter no 5 - On the Philosophers Mean. Seneca quotes here (with approval) the sayings of Hecato - another stoic i presume. ...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 14, 2005 2:28 am
Thanks to John for this reference. Seneca's Letters are available online. One can find the link under the Classical Works section of the Stoic Place,...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 20, 2005 4:01 am
Some time ago I shared with some of you individually my essay on Stoicism as a Variant of what George Lakoff calls the Strict Father Family moral model. I have...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 20, 2005 8:07 pm
Jan, I continue to be very puzzled by the interest in Cognitive psychology expressed by a number of forum members. Or, rather, the problem is the attempt to...
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curt
enkiduq
Jan 20, 2005 9:02 pm
There is nothing surprising in the fact that many people who wish to discuss Philosophy, even Ancient Philosophy, are not eager to use terms like "God" or...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 20, 2005 10:11 pm
Curt, I would not consider telling you what you should accept as true, or upon what foundation to build your world view. You also have every right to change...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 21, 2005 12:49 am
Cognitive linguistics, at least in the work of George Lakoff and others, provides us with the intellectual tools to understand the emergence of the concepts of...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 21, 2005 2:31 am
Malcolm, I am not annoyed with your defense of the Epictetan worldview--it's exactly what I would expect from some members of this Forum, given the focus of...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 21, 2005 2:22 pm
Jan, I just do not see how Cognitive Linguistics changes anything. It gives a another way of talking about Stoic philosophy, but nothing about how to live...
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curt
enkiduq
Jan 21, 2005 2:32 pm
Hi Malcolm, Just to be clear - I was using the word "religious" not in the sense of a particular religion, but in the sense of anything that refers explicitly...
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Nigel Glassborow
nigel7579
Jan 21, 2005 2:36 pm
For Jan to describe 'the concepts of will, soul, and God' as 'these folk theories' is to belittle such concepts. I personally will also refer to descriptions...
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curt
enkiduq
Jan 21, 2005 3:22 pm
To be even more clear about how I am using the words "religion"; and "religious" - I would say that I am using them in the same sense that Epictetus and Plato...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 21, 2005 3:25 pm
Jan, My impression is that this theory of metaphorical thought is too narrow. Having been a professional artist for forty years, I have given a lot of thought...
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John F. Michalski
jmichal2
Jan 21, 2005 6:47 pm
Greetings to all. This is my first post to the list since joining a couple of weeks ago. Please be gentle. ... others, ... of ... I would be more inclined to...
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John F. Michalski
jmichal2
Jan 21, 2005 7:04 pm
Malcolm, A book which I have found enormously helpful - and which has given me a greater appreciation for the whole philosophic enterprise - is P. Hadot's...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 21, 2005 10:26 pm
John, Yes. Reading Seneca, or Epictetus, it is clear that the primary concern of these Stoics is leading a virtuous life, not just thinking or talking about...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jan 22, 2005 12:06 am
Jan writes: ______________ I do not claim that Stoicism can be reconciled with this position [experiential realism, SM]. I very much doubt that Stoic theology...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Jan 22, 2005 1:20 am
John writes: ____________ . . . if there actually is no rational Providence governing the universe, to which the sage can conform her mind, does Stoicism fall...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 22, 2005 5:45 am
Perhaps, for somebody who is not familiar with the evidence marshalled in Lakoff's books, such caution as John would use is justifiable. Lakoff's theory is...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 22, 2005 5:58 am
The following is based, with a few modifications (the main one was to subsitute "philosophy" for "belief") on a piece by Sophia Lyon Fahs, "It Matters What We...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 22, 2005 1:34 pm
Amazing. Eleven excruciating metaphorical generalizations in a row! Where did this come from, Reader's Digest? Jan, it is almost sadistic to post this sort of...
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Regis Alain Barbier
regisalainba...
Jan 22, 2005 2:37 pm
I am not philosopher, but an MD interested in philosophy and stoicism; as a student. I am French but living in Brazil - Recife - since my youth. I am in the...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 22, 2005 7:28 pm
Jan E Garrett <jangarrett@...> wrote: Lakoff's theory is not cosmos-explaining, since it is chiefly concerned with clarifying the nature of human thought....
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bamford@...
reb_el
Jan 22, 2005 8:35 pm
... God' as 'these folk theories' is to belittle such concepts." Any theory is a folk theory if it has no demonstrable evidence to back it up its claims. ... ...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 22, 2005 9:09 pm
... God' as 'these folk theories' is to belittle such concepts." Any theory is a folk theory if it has no demonstrable evidence to back it up its claims. ... ...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 22, 2005 11:42 pm
This notion that the university environment causes squirming in persons who would be otherwise inclined to discourse of God is a curious case of environmental...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 22, 2005 11:42 pm
Similes mostly, actually. Sure, it's poetic--Sophia Lyon Fahs was a religious educator for the American Unitarian Association (after having spent many years...
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John Laerum
jlaerum
Jan 23, 2005 10:54 am
Malcolm I am struggling a little bit with this, do you mean to say that the improved quality of life we may experience from following the Stoic Way also leads...
