Dear Group: I'd be interested to know how others "ground" themselves with Stoic principles day-to-day. How do others start, live, and end their days? Do you...
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Rick Bamford
reb_el
Oct 2, 2004 3:59 am
... I read, usually before bed. Currently reading "The Feeling Buddha" by David Brazier. I write also. I wrote a sci-fi novel a couple years ago that I ...
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gropro
Oct 2, 2004 4:43 am
... that we are ... don't see any ... moderation is ... some Greek ... who, whilst ... finest garments ... the ascetics ... out to them ... Just to clarify...
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Papini, Mauricio
mauriciopapini
Oct 2, 2004 1:37 pm
Correct me if I am wrong, but the practice of exposing oneself to hard conditions of living (e.g., sleeping in a hard bed, tolerating the cold, etc.), is not...
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gropro
Oct 2, 2004 2:47 pm
... hard conditions of living (e.g., sleeping in a hard bed, tolerating the cold, etc.), is not done for pleasure or enjoyment, but as preparation for...
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Nigel Glassborow
nigel7579
Oct 2, 2004 3:39 pm
As a new member of the group I am pleased to see the discussion taking the direction this thread is going. In his 1915 Conway Memorial Lecture Professor...
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Mr Geoffrey Howard
ssojourner
Oct 2, 2004 4:26 pm
on a daily level... hmm... stoicism creeps in every day because i teach acting from a stoic perspective.. or it may be more accurate to say that it is ...
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Karlton Douglas
stoic_thorn_...
Oct 2, 2004 5:09 pm
I guess the main way I apply Stoicism to my daily living is through self-examination. It becomes a habit after awhile. When I am beginning to get angry, or...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Oct 5, 2004 2:25 pm
TOPIC- Foreign Policy Q: What sort of foreign policy should a Stoic endorse? a. Isolationism b. Mulilateral participation (UN, EU, etc.) c. Unilateral...
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julian evans
julianuscyni...
Oct 5, 2004 4:14 pm
I guess its pretty difficult to reduce to one formula. Stoic texts dont have much to say about foreign policy, beyond cryptic utterances such as 'Among the...
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gropro
Oct 5, 2004 4:54 pm
... Dear CBB: A core Stoic principle is the "right response to the appearance of things". The appearance of things is an important distinction....it could have...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 5, 2004 5:14 pm
... [reasonable discourse snipped] ... I would go even farther. I would say that there is no correct overall foreign policy for a Stoic. There will almost...
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Bart Van Wassenhove
qp_atticus
Oct 5, 2004 5:23 pm
This is my first posting in this e-group, so perhaps I should briefly introduce myself. My name is Bart Van Wassenhove, I live in Belgium and I study classical...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Oct 5, 2004 7:06 pm
An interesting issue was brought up. Which should we respect more- the sovereignty of governments or the rights of human beings? Here are the rationales behind...
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Piotr Jedrzejak
schulzoid
Oct 5, 2004 7:22 pm
hello everyone again. remember me? i'm a young stoicism convert and i've joined the group a couple of months ago. after a long struggle, i've managed to tidy ...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Oct 5, 2004 7:51 pm
Hello Charles, I would have thought that the Stoic would advocate whatever policy has the best prospect of promoting virtue, and of maximising flourishing in a...
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Bart Van Wassenhove
qp_atticus
Oct 5, 2004 8:06 pm
Hi Piotr, Concerning the practical application of Stoicism, I heartily recommend the Pierre Hadot's "The Inner Citadel: The Meditations of Marcus Aurelius" as ...
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Jan Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 5, 2004 9:55 pm
The three books you list, Piotr, are considered classics of Stoic ethics, and the three authors are concerned concretely with how to live in the here and now....
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chobbs@...
hobbscharlie
Oct 5, 2004 10:07 pm
Those are all good, I think. I myself am currently engaged in a study of Seneca's Epistulae Morales, so I'm partial to it right now. Best wishes, charlie hobbs...
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Papini, Mauricio
mauriciopapini
Oct 6, 2004 12:45 am
If "there is no correct overall foreign policy for a Stoic," what would be the Stoic argument that would justify war, any war, whether a defensive war (French...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Oct 6, 2004 1:05 am
Dr. Seddon writes: "Tho I am not sure what that has got to do with the current political scene..." Here in the US, we have one candidate who favors...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 6, 2004 2:40 am
... The first seems easy to me--I see no reason to suppose that an atmosphere where a belligerent power devoted to an irrational plan involving the mass murder...
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Papini, Mauricio
mauriciopapini
Oct 6, 2004 4:15 am
Grant, I do not see much Stoic content in your argument, although there is a lot of common sense. For example, common sense tells us that Nazis had to be...
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julian evans
julianuscyni...
Oct 6, 2004 8:56 am
In terms of whether humanitarian intervention is ever a just cause for war, as in Kosovo, Somalia, Iraq etc, my feeling is, yes, but it requires different...
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gropro
Oct 7, 2004 12:06 am
"To be getting an education means this: to be learning what is your own, and what is not your own." Discourses 4.5.7 [Oldfather Trans.] "Few will have the...
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Justin
justinleetyler
Oct 7, 2004 12:36 am
I am also new to stoicism, and personally, I have found enchiridion to be the most useful. Seneca's letters are great; but at times he tends to go on and on...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 7, 2004 2:48 am
... Orthodox Christian doctrine has never been that loving your enemy includes allowing him to murder people at will. ... It is true that we cannot know what...
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charlesbricebroadway@...
charlesbrice...
Oct 7, 2004 12:48 pm
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Piotr Jedrzejak
schulzoid
Oct 7, 2004 1:50 pm
thanks everyone a lot, i've bought the 3 books, and i'll buy the Hadot's book on meditations Bart mentioned as soon as i come across it. anyway, thanks and...
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gropro
Oct 7, 2004 3:37 pm
... across ... Hello Piotr, I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it...however, one of the best portrayals of Stoicism in a modern novel is Tom Wolfe's "A Man in ...
