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Did the word 'askesis', which is the root word for 'ascetic', carry that meaning to the ancient Greek and Romans who practiced Stoic philosophy? Today it...
John
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Jul 2, 2004
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The answer is primarily not, at least at the beginning. The mammoth Liddell-Scott Greek-English Lexicon gives as the primary meanings of askesis "exercise,...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 2, 2004
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Is it not interesting how word meanings drift and often completely change over time? I have heard a popular song on the radio that employs the line "drowning...
John
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Jul 3, 2004
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I do not know this book you mention, Gellatly & Zarate, but I assume these are neuroscientists. On this assumption, I would caution you on your interpretation...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 5, 2004
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... disconnection that a person (e.g., a stoic) may develop between thought and emotion,>>>> If I understand correctly, this 'purposeful disconnection' is an ...
John
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Jul 6, 2004
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This discussion reminds me of the Buddhist doctrine of non-attachment. It is through judging our perceptions as either good or bad that emotions and ...
Robert Tyner
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Jul 6, 2004
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This may be a good moment to ask you a question I have for you all, and it concerns biological evolution. Evolution comes to mind (to me, at least) when I...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 6, 2004
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... and >nueroscientists an impossiblity, even the 'purposeful disconnection' would be some >sort of emotional assessment. This need not affect our (Stoic)...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 6, 2004
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Classical Stoicism has a place for sexual attraction . . . inasmuch as sexual reproduction is obviously one of the prota kata phusin, first things according to...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 6, 2004
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Robert said:>>>>This discussion reminds me of the Buddhist doctrine of non-attachment. >>>> There was a time when I found many similarities between Buddhism...
John
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Charlie, I don't recall if anyone answered you. I have read all of Seneca's Letters and started reading the book by Griffin. I imagine several others here have...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 7, 2004
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I was just reading through these quotes from Victor Frankl, a well known 20th century Existential psychologist (which is very different from Existential...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 8, 2004
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Malcom, my own bias is as follows. When you say "psychological methods" I think "experimental psychology." I do not think this is what you have in mind,...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 8, 2004
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... methods" I think "experimental psychology." I do not think this is what you have in mind, right? Also, when you mention Frankl or existential psychology,...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 8, 2004
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Mauricio, In classical Greek philosophy, "speculative" (= "theoretical") psychology would be the scientific study of the mind undertaken for its own sake. ...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 8, 2004
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I thought Forum members might be interested in this correspondence I had with one of my students, who is looking into masters programs in ancient Greek...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 9, 2004
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From: Malcolm Schosha [mailto:malcolmschosha@...] I have never seen anything in "learning theory" that particularly interested me, and I would certainly...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 9, 2004
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... From: Jan E Garrett [mailto:jangarrett@...] Another difference, of course, is that modern experimental science gains credence not primarily for what...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 9, 2004
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... part of "cognitive-behavior therapy" (CBT). There is something unusual about CBT when compared to other forms of clinical psychology, such as the ones you...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 9, 2004
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... (e.g., that he should not trust perceptions), where is the "reasoning"? When Epicurus recommends using epitoms to memorize principles, where is reason? ...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 9, 2004
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Friends, I think we are on slippery ground as Stoics when we start using "impressions" and "perceptions" interchangeably. There is a tendency to think of...
Jan E Garrett
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Jul 9, 2004
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... tendency to ... tactile ... ... salient ... screen ... mind ... (naively) ... injured me, ... subject ... .............. Jan, No doubt the distinction you...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 10, 2004
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The thought seems, in itself, humorous. The criteria for such a study could only be based on behavior modification, because there is no real way to study the...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 10, 2004
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Malcolm, well said. I understand that the thought principle (to use Hadot's terminology) is related to substituting one interpretation for a more objective...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 10, 2004
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Mauricio, It is possible we are speaking about the same things, but I am not so sure. My understanding of Epictetus is that when he speaks of the reasoning...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 10, 2004
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Mauricio, Since I mentioned, in my previous post, Abraham Maslow's idea of "Peak-Experiences"; I occurred to me that I should have included a link to an...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 11, 2004
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Malcolm: It is possible we are speaking about the same things, but I am not so sure. My understanding of Epictetus is that when he speaks of the reasoning...
Papini, Mauricio
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Jul 12, 2004
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... in, e.g., one centered on indifference to things that do not depend on us. Here is where the exercises (training) come into play as a (I argue) nonrational...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 12, 2004
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... in, e.g., one centered on indifference to things that do not depend on us. Here is where the exercises (training) come into play as a (I argue) nonrational...
Malcolm Schosha
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Jul 13, 2004
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Malcolm, You seem to be inferring that because, according to this passage, Zeus gave the human being the faculty of desire and aversion, the human soul must be...
Jan E Garrett
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