Jan, ... no ... set of ... us, ... are ... than ... I have instinctually held this to be true for much of my life. Even though my choices are free, and my...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 1, 2004 12:12 pm
Dear Group, I would like to think I am making some progress. Yesterday a pretty young girl in a convertible sports car drove past me. At first, the part of my...
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Mr Geoffrey Howard
ssojourner
Apr 1, 2004 3:17 pm
I am reminded of a past post in here regarding a fictitious occurrence wherein Epictetus is found considering a $10,000 shower curtain. "I'm sure it's a very...
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Eric Ponitka
eponitka
Apr 2, 2004 1:42 am
Dear Stoics, As I am a new member of the international stoic forum , here is a brief introduction : I am a 30 year old man. I live in Belgium, the country of...
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Rick Bamford
reb_el
Apr 2, 2004 7:08 pm
... I don't know any sages, but my advice would be to get on the plane and try not to worry. You will probably not be able to stop the worry altogether, as it...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Apr 2, 2004 7:29 pm
Welcome Eric, ... life. ... have ... if I ... In anticipation of ordeals like this, I usually collapse into the realization that I don't really *have* a life,...
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Paul Ryan
mreeyore1968
Apr 2, 2004 10:12 pm
I have just tracked down a copy of the new book on Cleomedes, Lectures on Astronomy, by Bowen & Todd. Of course much of the physics is 'wrong' (although much...
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Karlton Douglas
stoic_thorn_...
Apr 3, 2004 1:38 am
Hi Eric! I am a fairly new member here myself :-) Hopefully some other members can give you better advice regarding stoic dogma and beliefs. I am a long-time...
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Eric Smith
edsmith@...
Apr 3, 2004 1:59 am
Dear Eric, Welcome to the Stoics Group. I am a comparatively new member myself. So far. I have made no contributions, but have thoroughly enjoyed the frequent...
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Elen Buzare
elen_buzare
Apr 3, 2004 8:37 am
Hi I would be grateful if one of you could give an english translation of the following extracts from Hadot's the inner citadell (chapter VI, the discipline of...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Apr 3, 2004 11:10 am
Hello Elen, These are the English translations from the Harvard University Press (1998) edition of Hadot's Inner Citadel: Aulus Gellus, Attic Nights XIX, 1,...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 3, 2004 10:04 pm
" In truth we ought not to pray at all, or we ought to pray in this simple and noble fashion"- M Aurelius, Meditations The other day I found a letter on the...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Apr 3, 2004 10:54 pm
A single copy of this rare and helpful anthology of papers has come up at ABE Books: Schofield, Malcolm and Striker, Gisla, Eds. The Norms of Nature: Studies...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 3, 2004 11:33 pm
Epictetus mentions Socrates' name more than any other, and it is obvious that he held him in high regard, however it seems to me that the `Socratic' (or...
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Rick Bamford
reb_el
Apr 4, 2004 1:32 am
... *have* a life, that it really belongs to another." To whom? ... and you will have nothing to fear." What did He do to aid those on September 11, 2001?...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Apr 4, 2004 2:40 am
Those who have Long and Sedley, The Hellenistic Philosophers, vol I., Cambridge University Press, 1987, can find brief excerpts from Cleomedes on pp. 294-95. I...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 4, 2004 2:47 am
... He made them free. He made the world perfect and unrestrained. What else?...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Apr 4, 2004 3:03 am
There are many Platonic dialogues involving the character Socrates in which the opposition between the soul and body is recessive rather than dominant. The...
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bamford@...
reb_el
Apr 4, 2004 4:06 am
... unrestrained. What else?" I do not understand your answer. Can you restate it, please?...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 4, 2004 12:51 pm
If god made everyone free (with a ruling faculty that is free from hindrance) and it is possible for each individual to obtain everything good that can be...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Apr 4, 2004 1:44 pm
How can we describe the world as perfect, with nothing of like to compare it to? ... From: John [mailto:john_tonya@...] Sent: 04 April 2004 03:47 To:...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 4, 2004 2:07 pm
Hello Pete! Where have you been? I thought you sailed off the edge of the earth. Epictetus said the world was perfect. I do not know what he was comparing it...
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Rick Bamford
reb_el
Apr 4, 2004 4:30 pm
... Would a seven year old on the plane have had every opportunity? ... In my opinion, a lot of people, both good and not so good, were harmed that day....
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 4, 2004 5:47 pm
Dear Rick, ... more so. I have thought about this. 'Potential future'. Does the future, if we are not 'in' it have any 'potential'? 'Potential' is rooted in...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Apr 4, 2004 6:20 pm
... This knife cuts both ways ... how can we describe the world as imperfect ... ? ... From: Pete Stonehouse To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 04,...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Apr 4, 2004 6:26 pm
In a message dated 04/04/2004 19:21:29 GMT Daylight Time, ... Is everybody afraid to say the emperor has no clothes ? Of course the world is not perfect. Could...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Apr 4, 2004 6:51 pm
Spinoza, in several ways similar to the Stoics (although in some respects significantly different), used the term perfection to describe the divine reality,...
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Paul Ryan
mreeyore1968
Apr 4, 2004 9:43 pm
The world being everything (i.e. the universe and not the planet), it necessarily follows that there is nothing apart from it with which it can be compared. ...
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John
tharasybulsone
Apr 4, 2004 9:55 pm
... claims the ... "God made all things in the world, and made the whole world itself unrestrained and perfect." Epictetus, Discourses book 4 chpt. 7...
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Paul Ryan
mreeyore1968
Apr 4, 2004 10:24 pm
If the causes and conditions were set for you to die young in a terrorist attack, then you did not have a different potential future. We could discuss...
