In The_Art_of_Living, John Sellars (168) concludes that Stoic "philosophy is best conceived as an art (techne) directed towards the cultivation of an ideal...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Mar 2, 2004 2:36 pm
Dave quoting Sellars: __________________ Sellars concludes: "In the light of this one might say that the Socratic-Stoic art of living is _ethical_ in the sense...
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Mr Geoffrey Howard
ssojourner
Mar 2, 2004 9:05 pm
This last post fascinated me, Steve! Sometimes I feel that this stoic group is my private "otherworld" where I get to take a break from theatre stuff and...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Mar 3, 2004 12:18 am
Geoffrey, What you have described as utilitarian ethics is what philosophers working in ethical theory call ethical egoism, or an application of it. Strictly...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Mar 3, 2004 3:21 pm
Hi Geoffrey, It looks like you've got the distinction between the three forms of ethics. I'll leave the application to theatre to you. Epictetus has some very...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Mar 3, 2004 4:13 pm
Hi. Things that I have learned from studying about Stoicism I have used to improve my life in various ways. However, sometimes I wonder if these are ways that...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 3, 2004 6:01 pm
Hello Steve, ... To support what you've said about happiness, I've excerpted a 'minor point' of criticism that John Sellars made of A. A. Long in a short ...
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Steve & Oxsana Marquis
marquis95960
Mar 4, 2004 9:01 pm
... Hi Adam. I thought there might be more to your post. I wonder if something got left out. Another's approval, whoever they may be, is not a preferred...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Mar 4, 2004 9:21 pm
... -- It was sent unfinished, partly due to my concern about the approval of others, which you point out was not a rational concern. Basically, I used to be...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Mar 4, 2004 11:16 pm
Besides the Files material and archives available to members of the "stoics" community at the yahoo groups website, a number of us also maintain personal...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 5, 2004 8:20 pm
Two thoughts of Dirk Baltzly that interested me: (1) that Athens honoured Zeno with a statue for a life lived in consistency with his philosophical principles;...
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Karlton Douglas
kdnascar
Mar 5, 2004 10:47 pm
Hi, I just joined your forum, and am looking forward to reading the posts about Stoicism. My interest in Stoicism started about 6 years ago when I came across...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 9, 2004 9:32 pm
Hi Guys, Pease call me CT, everyone does. My wife and I live 20 miles South of Seattle in Renton, Washington. We have been married for 41 years. We have five...
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Karlton Douglas
kdnascar
Mar 10, 2004 5:35 pm
Hi CT! I'm also new, and a Christian that has found great benefit from stoicism. I would love to hear some of your experiences with stoicism in Vietnam, or ...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 10, 2004 8:11 pm
Hi Guys, Without the Meditations, this would never have played out as it did. I was terrified as stated. On one level. But on a deeper level I was calm and...
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Paul Ryan
mreeyore1968
Mar 10, 2004 8:19 pm
Dear James I enjoyed your introduction very much. It reminded me of the excitement I felt on finding Aurelius and Epictetus for the first time some years back....
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John and Tonya
tharasybulsone
Mar 11, 2004 4:36 am
Hello CT, welcome to the group. I thought I would drop a line and reccomend a book that might interest you very much. It is "Courage Under Fire: Testing...
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Mr Geoffrey Howard
ssojourner
Mar 11, 2004 5:29 pm
CT. Welcome. I'm intrigued by what you will bring to the list -- a personal response to stoicism. I genuinely enjoy the academic conversations that I try my...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 11, 2004 6:05 pm
Hi Geoffrey, feel free to use anything I write in anyway you wish. As for laughing, I write humorous posts as well as serious posts. I have added an example...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 11, 2004 8:27 pm
Hello Jim, ... Hello Jim, This is an interesting piece of writing. Is it a true story? You say that it is humorous writing, but you don't indicate whether it...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 11, 2004 9:40 pm
Hi Dave, I'm glad you enjoyed my post. My writings are of three types, and I sign each type differently. If a post is both true and serious, I sign it "Jim."...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 11, 2004 10:21 pm
Hi Jim, Thanks for the key to your writings. I can see that creative writing is a big part of your life. Would you consider changing to a regular font for your...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 11, 2004 10:26 pm
Hi Dave, Does this help? I will, of course, not post my humorous writings on this group. I will post only Stoic related material. Best wishes, Jim Dave Kelly...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 11, 2004 11:09 pm
Thanks Jim, Everythings fine. I thought that I had sent this message earlier, but it hasn't shown up. Maybe it's still in the pipe. Best wishes, Dave ... =====...
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SCOTT RHODES
khrodos
Mar 12, 2004 2:37 pm
Hello CT and all. I am new here as well and I must say that I am quite happy to find people with such a mature and experienced realtionship with Stoicism. I am...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Mar 13, 2004 3:47 pm
Usually I keep non-Stoic material out of posts to this forum. However, this short non-Stoic quote has a very Stoic character. It discusses, from a rather...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 13, 2004 4:58 pm
Hello Malcolm, ... You've set up a false dichotomy, here (or a straw man). Stoics should avoid passionate social activism. If Stoics seek to avoid social ...
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James Allen
fluffy0752
Mar 13, 2004 5:50 pm
Hi Guys, We cause ourselves needless suffering and unhappiness by our refusal to see reality as it is. The truth is that : What is is, what ain't ain't. The...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 13, 2004 6:17 pm
Jim, I thought you agreed to use a regular font in posts to this forum. Besides having to move the scroll bar back and forth on smaller screens, the font...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Mar 13, 2004 6:51 pm
Hello Jim, ... Isn't the friend saying that he thinks that he knows what time the store is open , but that he's not sure? What is wrong with the friend ...
