Since the Stoic system, as classically understood, is a system of "science," i.e., knowledge or episteme, and cognitive impressions are necessary but not...
Jan writes: ____________ Since the Stoic system, as classically understood, is a system of "science," i.e., knowledge or episteme, and cognitive impressions...
Steve, If you want to argue that Stoic epistemology (or rather what the orthodox Stoics would have called a major part of "logic") does not appear to do ...
Jan, thanks indeed for your post. It clears up several loose ends. I was in error to presume that the cognitive impression was trivial to classical Stoicism....
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Dear fellow stoics: I have circulated the following among a close group of my non-stoic frends and thought that I should share it with you. The proximate cause...
Hello Sam, ... I have seen on the internet other types mentioned with the Type A: Types B, C, etc. I'll look for some information on them. ... The factor in...
Hello Sam, ... What I found on additional types doesn't seem that interesting, to me at least. There's Type A. And type B is the exact opposite of Type A. Type...
In what does Stoic training (askesis) consist? Keith glosses "askesis" in his "Epictetus" article: http://www.iep.utm.edu/e/epictetu.htm#Glossary%20of%20Terms ...
Thanks Malcolm, ... Epictetus recommends that we, also, abstain from desire for things that are in our power: "For the time being, completely restrain your...
Ancient Stoicism is linked to the modern human rights tradition by means of the long tradition of natural law ethics from Cicero to Thomas Aquinas, and from...
Dave Kelly <ptypes@...> wrote: A. A. Long (113-14) is helpful here. Even though "Epictetus takes it as axiomatic that every person desires happiness" he...
... I agree, except I don't see anything paradoxical. Being unable to distinguish the two, and being in the habit of thinking that the latter is the former,...
... I agree, except I don't see anything paradoxical. Being unable to distinguish the two, and being in the habit of thinking that the latter is the former,...
Hello Malcolm, ... This may be true, but I'll suspend judgment for now. For me, entering "training" requires a decision and commitment, something of a...
Dave Kelly <ptypes@...> wrote: You seem to be mixing metaphors, or something, here. Learning what is eph' hemin, 'up to us', is a matter of knowledge,...
... This is simply not the Stoic view of desire. The stoic view of desire is that desire is _one particular kind_ of motivation. Desire is separate from ...
Malcolm, You seem to be unconsciously slipping into the psychology of the multipart soul, something quite alien to mainstream (classical) Stoicism although not...
Dave wrote in response to Malcolm: _________________ I believe that you are very probably going to have to wait a very long time before you "develop a...
Grant Sterling <cfgcs@...> wrote: Epictetus is saying that _for now_ one should turn off desire. ............. Grant, I have read this many times over. But...
... He is addressing students who have not yet mastered the habits of a Stoic. If you have truly reached the point where you can, for example, experience pain...
Grant Sterling <cfgcs@...> wrote: He is addressing students who have not yet mastered the habits of a Stoic. If you have truly reached the point where you...
is epictetus a christ figure that stoics must measure up to? i'm not dismissing his importance at all. but it might be that he started something that we have...
... What we need to move us to action is not desire but "horme" (usually translated as "impulse"). In human beings horme is always "rational," which is to say...
Not so, Malcolm, in the Stoic one-part theory desire (as a translation of epithumia) is a pathos, always correlated with false judgment (that things not under...
Malcolm writes, "Based on Seneca's Letter CVIII, I have the impression that the Stoic teachers did not have a very formal training program. There were ...
Hi Malcolm, Let me restate your question to see if I've got it right: By definition, we can't do any action without motivation (what you call 'desire')....
Geoffrey wrote, ________________ if we choose to "turn off" desire until we can grow into the proper opinions of events... then aren't we merely practicing a...