Hello Cecil, I still cannot fing the passage in Empiricus. I believe the answer to your question (> So could such a person 'rightfully' (according to the...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 3, 2004 1:06 pm
In a message dated 03/01/2004 12:53:27 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... That's too bad. I believe the answer > to your question (> So could such a...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 3, 2004 1:30 pm
... comment on the passage from Empiricus. <<<< I am not sure I know what your conclusion was, could you please restate it? ... Empiricus ... This is true. I...
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celal777
Jan 3, 2004 1:49 pm
In a message dated 03/01/2004 13:31:39 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... Excuse me John ; but , i posted it twice already. You can look them up again...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 3, 2004 1:59 pm
In a passage in Sextus Empiricus(Against the Ethicists, 61) he refers to one Ariston of Chios who "affirmed that health, and everything of a similar kind, is...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 3, 2004 2:09 pm
Hello Cecil, I must have a different archive than you do. ... stoicism ) ... When I was in school a question mark made for a question and not a 'conclusion'. I...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 3, 2004 2:28 pm
In a message dated 03/01/2004 14:11:40 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... I hope not. Cecil Berker...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 3, 2004 2:31 pm
In a message dated 03/01/2004 14:11:40 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... John, That is the conclusion i reached upon reading your comment. I phrased it...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 3, 2004 3:14 pm
Hello Cecil, Is that what you personally believe? I have heard many exchanges on the forum about how a person should respond in a situation that is considered...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 3, 2004 4:11 pm
John <john_tonya@...> wrote: Epictetus says in one passage that if god wills that he has a fever then it will be his will too. This seems to class health...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 3, 2004 4:19 pm
... I think this is absolutely fundamental to Stoicism. The idea is that if one regards something as "good", then one will of necessity desire it, and if one...
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MurrellB@...
beatrix91910
Jan 3, 2004 10:03 pm
myshalom777@... writes: << Are we the only people left alive on this forum? >> I'm back, but have little to say at this point. Saw where there was a...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Jan 4, 2004 12:25 am
I guess nobody active on the list right now has been able to locate the Sextus passage to which John referred (below). It has rightly been pointed out that...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 4, 2004 12:59 am
Thank you for the excellent response. This part fascinates me. ... Which Stoics discuss "preferred indifferents"? I am familiar mostly with Epictetus and he...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 4, 2004 3:44 am
... No, I was summarizing my interpretation of his view. However, I don't think there's any doubt that Epictetus was a theological Stoic. ... I don't think...
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celal777
Jan 4, 2004 12:18 pm
In a message dated 04/01/2004 00:27:33 GMT Standard Time, jangarrett@... ... Thank you for that Jan. I would nevertheless still like to see how Sextus...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 4, 2004 12:24 pm
In a message dated 04/01/2004 01:04:47 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... Hello John, (Phil 4:12 NIV) I know what it is to be in need, and I know what...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 4, 2004 3:54 pm
... . OTOH, the "preferred indifferents" are things that we should appropriately strive for [they are appropriate objects of will] but are not good [they are...
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Rick Bamford
reb_el
Jan 4, 2004 5:22 pm
... yet I could retort that it is gods will that I take medicine....thus this idea seems to get nowhere." This is one of the many reasons why I reject theism...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 4, 2004 7:32 pm
... Dear Rick, ... for human ... claim by ... This sounds exactly like what the Skeptics say. They think it is better to suspend judgement on matters like this...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 4, 2004 7:38 pm
Dear Cecil, ... locate the ... been pointed out ... I am still looking! ... subject here on ... stoic ... equanimity. There is ... The point is, that to a...
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John
tharasybulsone
Jan 4, 2004 8:15 pm
"He, then, who is termed by them a temperate sage is called temperate either in virtue of his never feeling the impulse towards good or repulsion from evil, or...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Jan 4, 2004 8:15 pm
I found this paper very rewarding: "Moral Character: Hexis, Habitus and 'Habit'" by Joseph Malikail. http://www.mic.ul.ie/stephen/vol7/moral.pdf ...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 4, 2004 10:45 pm
... I don't see why this is any different from anything else. The Stoic view is that you should accept the loss of a loved one with equanimity. To some...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 4, 2004 10:45 pm
... I don't think so. Or, at least, this is not a complete answer. Suppose, to take the situation posed, I have a headache. Should I take an aspirin or not?...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 4, 2004 10:46 pm
... Pantheism is the view that the universe in some way _is_ god. Some stoics do indeed talk like pantheists. But that is different from the view that the...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jan 4, 2004 10:46 pm
... Unfortunately, my computer at work is broken and I can only respond from home, where I don't have my books. I'm sure the website has some links on the...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 4, 2004 11:21 pm
In a message dated 04/01/2004 19:39:55 GMT Standard Time, john_tonya@... ... John, I just finished watching a documentary programme on Nazi history. One...
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myshalom777@...
celal777
Jan 4, 2004 11:29 pm
In a message dated 04/01/2004 22:50:41 GMT Standard Time, cfgcs@... ... Hello Grant, I disagree. If one could greet injustice, and i am specifically...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Jan 4, 2004 11:37 pm
myshalom777@... wrote: I just finished watching a documentary programme on Nazi history. One German who profiteered by selling bread to the Jews who were...
