Hello Paul, I am a Christian and i joined this list primarily to lurk and glean information on Soricism and how Stocism interacts with Chritian concepts and...
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Robert Eddison
rteddison
Oct 1, 2003 9:56 am
... I don't know where the expression "closure" comes from, but I had never thought that it entailed hedonism. I should have thought that the psychological...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 1, 2003 11:04 am
Paul, A few thoughts: Doug, I also am not completely comfortable about the theological side of stoicism. I can accept that the universe as a whole is perfect, ...
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Christophe Paillard
c.paillard@...
Oct 1, 2003 11:49 am
Dear Paul, "If there is an omnipotent god in the universe, he, she, it is directly responsible for everything. Given the pain and suffering in the universe...
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Christophe Paillard
c.paillard@...
Oct 1, 2003 11:51 am
Sorry Paul fot this mistake, I was in fact answering to Pete. ... From: Christophe Paillard To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 1:49...
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Charles M. Cork, III
ccork000
Oct 1, 2003 1:53 pm
Pete, Your comments on the insidious and morally enfeebling US concept of closure, which is claimed to cause litigiousness -- especially by the voices of big...
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Charles M. Cork, III
ccork000
Oct 1, 2003 1:53 pm
... I don't know where the expression "closure" comes from, but I had never thought that it entailed hedonism. I should have thought that the psychological...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Oct 1, 2003 4:52 pm
Hi, I know that many people have thought of Stoicism and Christianity as being mutually exclusive, but here in the Southern United States, there did exist a...
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MurrellB@...
beatrix91910
Oct 1, 2003 5:00 pm
I know that quite awhile ago I included the following, but it may prove of some interest to new members. --Beatrix ...
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MurrellB@...
beatrix91910
Oct 1, 2003 5:28 pm
Related, perhaps, to the Stoic Christian connection. Here's an item I presented on another mailing-list. --Beatrix ...
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Marks Michael - mmarks
mmarks@...
Oct 1, 2003 6:07 pm
Those interested in this topic might be interested in Troels Engberg-Pedersen's "Paul and the Stoics", ISBN 066422234X. Amazon link ...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 1, 2003 8:28 pm
Dear Friends The concept of "closure" began as a psychological term and has been widely used for some time. Unless I am mistaken "Rodgerian" counsellors...
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mreeyore1968
Oct 1, 2003 9:12 pm
If you accept the stoic theory of fate then everything in this universe was caused by that which was contained in its beginning. If this is so, this is the...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 1, 2003 9:25 pm
Charles, I very much appreciate your challenging reply. Your comments on the insidious and morally enfeebling US concept of closure, which is claimed to cause...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 1, 2003 9:38 pm
Hello Adam, Just a quick note: interesting vein here - I'm going to read more before I give a more thorough reply though. It has always struck me that the best...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 1, 2003 11:42 pm
A few years ago, when I first joined the Forum, we had a fellow in the Forum who worked for National Public Radio and had done a fair amount of research on the...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 2, 2003 12:21 am
This is a useful clarification of the original use of the term closure. (I am going to assume you are right until I learn otherwise.) In the U.S., anyway, it...
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tharasybulsone
Oct 2, 2003 2:13 am
Dear Pete, You said: "If there is an omnipotent god in the universe, he, she, it is directly responsible for everything. Given the pain and suffering in the...
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Sam Coppock
epam371
Oct 2, 2003 4:43 am
I agree with Paul that I am not comfortable with some stoics' theology; let us not say "the" stoic theology for there is room for debate among us. And that...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Oct 2, 2003 5:57 am
... [snip] ... -- Though *classical* Stoicism might be mutually exclusive with Christianity (as you can't follow every detail of classical Stoicism and every...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 2, 2003 9:06 am
Dear Paul, This is a good example of where subsequent knowledge entails that one either subscribes to the essence of Stoicism or the letter. If you accept the...
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Pete Stonehouse
cpwstonehouse
Oct 2, 2003 10:30 am
Dear tharasbulsone, My comments follow (please forgive the shouting my friend: I feel the emphasis necessary at points) Dear Pete, You said: "If there is an...
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mreeyore1968
Oct 2, 2003 9:52 pm
Dear Pete By the way, I'm also attracted to stoicism because it is not a creed. If an argument is made you see a logical fault in it is a very worthwhile thing...
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John
tharasybulsone
Oct 2, 2003 10:03 pm
Dear Pete, It is a good thing that C.S. Lewis didn't have a Pete Stonehouse. His straw men didn't write back! I guess the devil needs a new advocate because I...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 3, 2003 2:21 am
The work by Justus Lipsius, Two Bookes of Constancie, is available under "Classical Works" at the Stoic Place web site (http://www.wku.edu/~jan.garrett/stoa/...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 3, 2003 4:24 am
Faith is what you have before you have a more complete understanding. It is not necessarily blind faith. An initial trust should perhaps be abandoned if a...
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Richard Lilley
apicius2003
Oct 3, 2003 12:46 pm
Paul Quite so -causality is the central problem in a measured world within the copenhagen interpretation (the edges of which are, as we know, fraying). Is ...
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cateavb@...
Oct 3, 2003 1:17 pm
Hi Pete thanks and no problem - it's a very emotive issue so I admire anyone who has the courage to make the case against the death penalty/capital punishment ...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Oct 3, 2003 3:07 pm
Hi Jan, Thanks for the very fine analysis of faith. I enjoyed, also, Adam's recounting of his professor's demonstration of how faith and reason are not...
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Paul Ryan
mreeyore1968
Oct 4, 2003 5:29 pm
Dear Richard Enjoyed your reply! I was at a lecture by Roger Penrose today on the subject of symmetry. I was lucky enough to get to ask a question which...
