Hello Jan, Well all in all it appears the line of demarcation between philosophy and religion is rather obscure. Cheers, WGR...
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wgr286
Aug 1, 2003 4:29 pm
Hello Paul, ... Agreed, my opinion is one either has faith/belief in someone/something/some idea (evolution or whatever) OR is witholding judgement awaiting...
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wgr286
Aug 1, 2003 4:36 pm
Hello again Paul, ... is ... I'm just curious about this use of the word "indifferents" is this a specific translation? I'm familiar with "externals" being...
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wgr286
Aug 1, 2003 5:09 pm
Hello Keith, ... was; that ... certain ... located ... you endorse ... I believe the author of the book was suggesting the idea that there was some sort of...
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Nexist Xenda'ths
xendaths
Aug 1, 2003 5:53 pm
... Why Hello. ... Nature is the most obvious manifestation of the Divine. ... It was meant tongue in cheeck. However, is the imbalance from Religion, ...
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Paul Lanagan
pdlanagan
Aug 2, 2003 12:59 am
I have been thinking for some time now about how one should reason under stoic philosophy to determine whether a particular action is an appropriate action, ie...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 3, 2003 3:44 am
I don't think the ancient Stoics ever answered the question of whether an action was appropriate by asking "what if everyone did that sort of thing?" They did...
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charlesbricebroadway@...
charlesbrice...
Aug 3, 2003 4:03 pm
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 4, 2003 12:30 am
We only have a fragment of what Musonius Rufus wrote concerning sexuality, but these are his key points: 1. Sex is for procreation. It is not to be pursued...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 4, 2003 3:15 pm
Note. I am not shy about the three-letter word, but am trying to avoid spam that might be triggered by recognition of that word in our subject-line. ... A...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 4, 2003 4:41 pm
Dr. Garrett, This is informative, but I'm still getting hung up on the idea of pleasure not so much as a preferred indifferent but as an end in itself. The...
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Nicholas J. Sarwark
nsarwark
Aug 4, 2003 4:54 pm
To come at it from another perspective: 1) Health is a preferred indifferent. 2) Sexual release is positively correlated to health, e.g. prostate health in...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 4, 2003 9:39 pm
This seems more like a justification of masturbation. I'm sure there are many circumlocutions that can be used to justify anything, but I seek a more elegant...
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mreeyore1968
Aug 5, 2003 12:15 am
Dear CBB, which Musonius Rufus fragments are your points taken from? The quote below might interest you, in that it labels sexual activity an `indifferent' as...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 5, 2003 12:34 am
Some links: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~philsks/Musonius.html http://www.coh.arizona.edu/classics/inst/clas362/musonius.htm I took these from the list on...
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nmavridis2003
Aug 5, 2003 4:40 pm
I think that is very important to differentiate the stoic Hedonism from the postmodern panhedonism. The first one has a certain boundary line which is...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 5, 2003 10:58 pm
One of the well-known stories about Diogenes the Cynic (not a Cyrenaic) is that he masturbated in public, remarking that it would be nice if he could get rid...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 6, 2003 1:57 pm
I've given more thought to you-know-what and did a little reading, but it seems to me that the celibacy/monogamous procreation position holds. Even those who...
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charlesbricebroadway@...
charlesbrice...
Aug 6, 2003 9:05 pm
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 7, 2003 3:37 am
I could agree with some of CBB's statements if they were suitably qualified. 1. Celibacy decreases the risk of getting STD's (you can get certain STD, e.g.,...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 7, 2003 1:06 pm
Dr. Garrett, "Pragmatic" is the only qualifier I needed. It cannot be disputed that by avoiding sex, your risk of encountering certain rejected indifferents is...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 8, 2003 3:50 pm
The purpose of Rawls' veil of ignorance is to provide a fair decision procedure to be used in the choice of principles of justice to govern the basic social...
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mreeyore1968
Aug 8, 2003 9:12 pm
Dear CBB I wonder whether you have yet addressed the important point raised by Jan earlier, that sex has an important function in bonding human relationships....
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 9, 2003 4:12 am
I already addressed this in an earlier post. If a philosopher is married to someone who is not a philosopher, then marital duties should be fulfilled as a...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 9, 2003 4:56 am
Dr. Garrett, Maybe these examples would help: EXAMPLE A- Sex as pain. Let's say all sexual acts culminated not in a pleasurable orgasm but severe pain. Under...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 9, 2003 4:39 pm
I am not sure whether Charles is opposed to sex as something to be selected for itself or pleasure as something to be occasionally selected for itself. He is...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 10, 2003 3:18 am
The Four “Roles” We Play -- Cicero’s On Duties 1.107-115 We are often asked, “how do Stoics decide what they ought to do?” Hints of this are found in...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 10, 2003 4:19 pm
I have done some reading on the various Stoic perspectives on sexuality, and this is what I have. 1. ZENO The founder of Stoicism caused a lot of controversy...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Aug 10, 2003 11:12 pm
Charles writes "1. ZENO "The founder of Stoicism caused a lot of controversy in his day and was perhaps an embarrassment to the Stoic school of thought for...
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charlesbricebroadway
charlesbrice...
Aug 11, 2003 12:22 am
I freely admit that I have not read Zeno's Republic. Where can I get a copy? Amazon doesn't seem to have it. LWH, CBB...
