Some mixed responses to Stoic Week, from Jules Evans: http://philosophyforlife.org/the-revival-of-stoicism/ ...
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Donald Robertson
donjohnr
Dec 1, 2012 5:57 pm
Well, maybe I'm biased, but I really thought Baggini's article was dreadful. It opens with a big picture of Sigmund Freud, apparently trying to send out the...
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Michael van der Galien
mpfvandergalien
Dec 1, 2012 7:05 pm
I was amazed - not in a positive way - by the article as well. It seemed to me that he didn't understand anything about stoicism or stoic week. Not sure...
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Mark Bryan
MarkBryan1
Dec 2, 2012 8:30 am
I've read the article several times and still don't understand what he's trying to say, other than that he doesn't particularly like Stoicism. He himself has a...
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Scott Rhodes
khrodos
Dec 2, 2012 10:33 am
Id say the article is 90 percent about psychology and only 10 percent about Stoicism at most. Baggini's point is concerned with the difference between...
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Ian
ianslog
Dec 2, 2012 3:28 pm
We shouldn't love wisdom because we are neurotic:P We should love it because it helps us engage in the real world in a productive way, and maybe get peace of...
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Donald Robertson
donjohnr
Dec 2, 2012 4:25 pm
... It sounds like you're saying Stoicism didn't exist before the 19th century - surely that can't be what you meant? Do you mean that "psychologising" has...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Dec 2, 2012 4:37 pm
Scott wrote:  "What's the difference? Are you in love or just trying to get fixed up?" An interesting question. Could one could practice Stoicism because...
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Scott Rhodes
khrodos
Dec 3, 2012 2:17 am
Hey Donald Im sorry i was not clear enough. Maybe it would help if i ask you what you see distinguishing psychology from philosophy? How is the object of study...
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Donald Robertson
donjohnr
Dec 3, 2012 11:06 pm
Well, I would just these terms more or less in the standard English dictionary definition sense. It's notoriously hard to give a dictionary definition of...
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Steve Marquis
stevemarquis...
Dec 4, 2012 2:30 pm
Scott- For starters the venue of philosophy is inquiry into all things rational (if you believe the Stoics that would include everything). The venue of science...
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Scott Rhodes
khrodos
Dec 4, 2012 5:51 pm
... What mean you "metaphorical reason"?...
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Steve Marquis
stevemarquis...
Dec 4, 2012 9:38 pm
Scott-  Jan can explain metaphorical reason in detail.  As I understand it our complex ideas expressed in language are built up packages of simpler ideas...
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Scott Rhodes
khrodos
Dec 4, 2012 11:05 pm
Ah, Lakoff. Gotcha. Is this the same thing you are refering to as ... ? ... Ah, Lakoff. Gotcha. Is this the same thing you are refering to as physical...
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jg.david@...
jg.david...
Dec 5, 2012 12:11 am
Hello all, I have been intrigued for a long time by the many similarities between Stoicism and Buddhism. The booklet that was provided for the Stoic week -...
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Steve Marquis
stevemarquis...
Dec 5, 2012 2:42 am
Hi Scott- Like psychology is a subset of empirical inquiry which is a subset of rational inquiry metaphorical reason is but one thread amongst a tapestry with...
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smartgreg77
Dec 5, 2012 9:08 pm
Hi, David: I think there's a good connection between the two on a practical level. In fact, I consider myself a (secular) Buddhist, and found Buddhism before...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Dec 7, 2012 1:38 am
Just to quickly let all members of the Yahoo Groups International Stoic Forum know that the Stoic Foundation has a new website address. ...
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Glenn Davis
glennonymous
Dec 7, 2012 9:23 pm
Thank you very much Keith. I'm a big fan of your book on Epictetus' Handbook and the Tablet of Cebes BTW -- it has been hugely helpful to me on many a Dark...
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Dave Kelly
ptypes
Dec 10, 2012 5:48 pm
Does anyone wish to comment upon Chapter 17 of the Handbook? "Remember that you are an actor in a play of such a kind as the playwright chooses: short, if he...
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Dave
ptypes
Dec 11, 2012 8:42 pm
To it's credit, CBT trains people to actually free themselves of emotions. It can serve as a model of practice even for Stoics who think it appropriate and of...
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Moe Johnson
creakyhallway
Dec 11, 2012 11:35 pm
I don't understand. How can one develop an Islamic CBT if one must "drop any talk of God or providence?" This excerpt seems contradictory to me. -- Moe ...
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Donald Robertson
donjohnr
Dec 12, 2012 1:01 am
I don't think it's actually a contradiction. (I'm a CBT practitioner and a student of Stoicism.) CBT doesn't prescribe a value system (of this sort) to...
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creakyhallway
Dec 12, 2012 1:17 am
Okay, that makes sense. Thanks!...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Dec 12, 2012 3:28 pm
I think the Stoics and Socrates had a lot to say about harming yourself. This article discusses this idea in a modern psychological context. My intent is not...
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creakyhallway
Dec 12, 2012 10:50 pm
I think what is implied in "moral injury" is that there is a moral body to be injured. And by that I mean, that one has a moral framework which has been...
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stoic_thorn_bearer
stoic_thorn_...
Dec 13, 2012 4:24 pm
Yes, this definitely would and does apply to others as well. War is just the concentration, the condensed version, of the effect. The article is 100% correct....
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NishmaBlogMaster
pmsrxw
Dec 13, 2012 5:14 pm
FWIW I recently "re-saw" the Movie "Sergeant York" with Gary Cooper. A segment of the movie wrestles with this dilemma. Best Regards, RW...
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creakyhallway
Dec 14, 2012 3:27 am
I think the ancient Stoics did meditate, and in a very familiar way to us today, who might find ourselves reading the latest Tricycle magazine or the words of...
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NishmaBlogMaster
pmsrxw
Dec 14, 2012 4:00 am
So was there a "Zeitgeist" circa 500 BC that brought about the common ideas shared by the Buddha and the Classic Philosophers - viz. The ideal of detaching...
