No, you are correct. One only has to read Epictetus to see that kindness and virtue are entirely compatible. He gives several examples of actions that are both...
Hello Greg, Welcome. The reasons you cite for your interest in Stoicism are very close to my own. I hope you will find it rewarding being on this Forum. As...
________________________________ Hello, all: Stoic philosophy applies to the issue of status and why we should not become envious of others if we do not get...
Hi Karlton, I think he is correct about 'kindness'. His definition of 'virtue' is problematic because it confuses with ancient uses of that word which are very...
Thanks Jim. As soon as I read the quote it hit me wrong. I think of virtue as the thing that fuels correct action, like kindness. It is hard for me to imagine...
Thanks Malcolm. Gnosticism would fit better into what he was trying to say. I think that legalism, fundamentalism, even religion in its worst sense would fit...
Hello Malcolm , just for the record Jonas and Voegelin are not of much use to scholars any more. Their ideas are basically just a continuation of the Christian...
Sorry Scott, but I do not see anything to support your argument that Jonas and Voegelin books are <<a continuation of the Christian heresy hunters'...
Just off the top of my head, Karlton, I seem to recall Epictetus 1) enjoining us not to stifle a generous impulse (if we are guided by reason, he suggests, it...
The "virtuous"; person here falls short from the Stoic use of the word: Â "Obsessed"; usually means and irrational compulsion. "Desire to impose," a stoic would...
Karlton – The author of your quote is probably thinking along the lines of Victorian virtue. He might be correct given the definitions he chose to use....
http://newstoa.info/spip.php?page=article&id_article=60 Fascinating interview about Michel Daw's Stoic workshops. Regards, Michael -- Michael van der Galien ...
Dear Tom In situations like this I find it helpful to focus on the process of my work, not the outcomes. I conciously try to break my work down into component...
Hi Tom, ... What are some of the things you are actually doing to lessen, or deal with, the envy, jealousy, and other emotions you're experiencing with regard...
Dave: Thank you for asking. When I experience this sort of situation, I: 1. become filled with a sense of depression, in that I believe my work is irrelevant...
Dear Mark: Thank you for this. I see the value of it - but in my case, my mind quickly jumps to the terrain, and I come bogged down with my envious thoughts...
Thanks Jim. I also found this quote: X. No one who is a lover of money, a lover of pleasure, or a lover of glory, is likewise a lover of mankind; but only he...
Steve, I can only imagine that the author of the quote had a very strange definition in mind of virtue, it certainly seems a misuse of the word. Yet you may be...
Tom, This isn't advice, I'm just thinking of how I might deal with a similar situation myself. First, society places pretty much all value on what you can...
Thank you very, very much for your thinking on the matter, I genuinely appreciate the time you took. What gets to me is, I view my work as not being...
Thomas, If I might make a suggestion... When you write, "So, in a way, it's under my control - I can work harder, do better, and perhaps THEN my colleagues...
Hello Thomas, One thing I do regularly is to dwell on my death. None of us knows when it will happen, but we each know that it will happen at some point. It is...
Jim: Thank you for your thoughts on the matter. I found your comments really interesting. Can you tell me more how you 'use' this action of dwelling on your...
Hey Malcolm. Thanks for pointing out that passage in Simplicius. The fact that he focuses on the theodicy problem is certainly a dynamic feature when comparing...
... Whenever you are experiencing the passions of envy, jealousy, or depression, do you repeat over and over again to yourself that nothing really bad has...
Hi, my name is Chris, i am very new to stoicism and have for about a year been a deep follower of the tao te ching, which has helped me to get out of a deep...
Thanks Tom, To be honest, I think you have to find a method that feels right for you. Sometimes I walk down to the local cemetery to remind myself that one day...
Hello Chris, Welcome to the Forum. I hope you find it rewarding. Thanks for sharing your stories. I, too, have found spending time in nature to be very...
Sorry, the Subject looks like bad grammar because I couldn't get what I wanted to say in the little line. This is what I am really asking: Are there...
