Alexander . . .             First, let me emphasize that, despite the abogado-del-diablo points that I propose following this paragraph, I...
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JIM GODDARD
jim660331
Jul 1, 2011 5:03 pm
Hello All, I'm not so much writing about Marcus Aurelius as Frank McLynn's recent biography of him. I finished the book a couple of weeks back. He clearly...
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TheophileEscargot
snailman100
Jul 1, 2011 7:34 pm
Yes, I basically agree with you. McLynn is very hostile to stoicism, and selectively presents it in the worst possible light. However, about the book in...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Jul 1, 2011 8:45 pm
... ***** I understand this conception of a PI, and see the reasons for it, but it seems to me to leave a gap. Perhaps you can explain how the gap is to be...
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JIM GODDARD
jim660331
Jul 1, 2011 9:08 pm
Thanks for this. I read your review and found myself agreeing with most of it. One of the core problems I noted was that McLynn treats both the Meditations and...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Jul 1, 2011 10:42 pm
________________________________ From: Grant Sterling <gcsterling@...> To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 1, 2011 4:39:14 PM Subject: Re: [stoics]...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 1, 2011 11:11 pm
I want to start by saying thanks for your answer and your support in boxing :D About justice. About the skinny guy getting beat up i think it would be my duty...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 1, 2011 11:18 pm
Some times somebody has to do the dirty job. I know guys who beat weak people and only know the lenguage of violence force. Stepin in involves putting yourself...
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RichardM
richmarin
Jul 2, 2011 1:47 pm
I am aware of classic books by Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius. However, which modern writers are worth reading? For example, in another thread Beatrix recommend...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 3, 2011 3:43 am
William B. Irvine's A Guide to the Good Life mate....
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allomorphe_zero
Jul 3, 2011 8:51 am
Stoicism and Emotion by Margaret R. Graver. It dismantles lots of the prejudices and misunderstandings people have about Stoicism and explains in detail how...
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Ghi O
subtenante
Jul 3, 2011 12:10 pm
Hi Alex. ... This seems in deep contradiction with Stoicism to me. If you feel something is a "dirty" job, then you have the power to refuse to do it. ... Then...
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Timo
kkoivu
Jul 3, 2011 1:11 pm
Hi all,  I have an idea.  I was wondering, if I was to arrange a Stoic Symposium in Rome, Italy in April 2012 if there would be enough interest? I named...
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Ghi O
subtenante
Jul 3, 2011 4:36 pm
Great idea, Timo. Southern France is not very far from Rome, it would be great to meet. Count me in. Cheers, Guillaume....
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IJD Underwood
ibrahimunder...
Jul 3, 2011 9:57 pm
Many may have seen this poem before, but I ran into it again today quite by accident, so thought to share it. (I doubt the Means To Happy Life, by Henry...
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julia_stahl_hernandez
julia_stahl_...
Jul 4, 2011 10:56 am
Thank you, Jon, a beautiful poem. I'm still fairly new to Stoicism--I've passed one year plus since taking up Marcus Aurelius' Meditations. However, since...
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Steve Marquis
stevemarquis...
Jul 4, 2011 4:37 pm
Kevin in response to Grant writes: ______________ You use the phrase "directed at a rational end." It is here, ironically, that I think the case for pleasure...
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Nate Z
eyesense...
Jul 4, 2011 6:24 pm
Steve, you elaborated well on the pleasure vs. pain dichotomy. (I had the impression no one read that post I sent, The Pleasure Discussion, perhaps in part...
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Nate Z
eyesense...
Jul 4, 2011 6:52 pm
Timo, this is a marvelous idea. My first inclination is to be very enthusiastic, however I'd most likely be coming from either the States or Thailand, a...
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Nate Z
eyesense...
Jul 4, 2011 6:54 pm
Jon, that's a nice poem. I have never heard it before, it seems like it would be rather obscure. The actor's rich voice in the clip certainly gave it a...
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William Denton
wtd@...
Jul 4, 2011 7:30 pm
... "Worldly Place" by Matthew Arnold is a fine one (and not hard to memorize): Even in a palace, life may be led well! So spake the imperial sage, purest of...
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Michel Daw
michelgdaw
Jul 4, 2011 7:53 pm
Do a search on 'poem' on the list. I know that myself and other have published some amateur poetry a while back. It`s not Matthew Arnold or Rudyard Kipling,...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Jul 4, 2011 8:46 pm
Steve wrote: Of course recreation is irrevocably intertwined as a requirement in many of our role expectations. Think of the role sex plays in marriage as...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 4, 2011 9:37 pm
Hello Ghi O great answers to debate =) How is doing nothing more virtous than trying to do the right thing no matter the consequences. What reason is letting...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 4, 2011 9:41 pm
Hello Ghi O and thanks for your answers. What I dont get is how doind nothing is more virtous that doing something good no matter the consequences. Sounds to...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 4, 2011 10:25 pm
I really dont like the idea of buddhism about never to retaliate. And i see some people advocating this extreme form of pacifism in stoicism. Here are some...
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Nate Z
eyesense...
Jul 4, 2011 11:08 pm
Dear Forum,      Reading philosophical treatises can furnish a certain amount of inspiration for becoming a more refined Stoic, but it’s only,...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 4, 2011 11:51 pm
I really dont like the idea of buddhism about never to retaliate. And i see some people advocating this extreme form of pacifism in stoicism. Here are some...
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Nate Z
eyesense...
Jul 5, 2011 1:56 am
Alexander, Â Â Â Â Â I understand that justice is a topic that motivates you. It means a lot to you. But maybe what is compelling you here is not some...
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Alexander Alvarenga
moltronstoic
Jul 5, 2011 2:41 am
Thanks for your wise answer Nate, you words are really deep and with wisdom your endurance and way you dealt with your situation is admirable. And sorry that...
