... Salve Steve, Certainly Stoics believe in the polis, and in contributing to the life of the City, and do not believe in a withdrawal into a walled garden....
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Malcolm
malcolmschosha
Oct 1, 2010 4:07 pm
Salve, It seems to me that your handling of Stoicism may be rather gnostic. According to the Catholic Encyclopedia: "The Gnostics, it is true, borrowed their...
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Steve Marquis
stevemarquis...
Oct 1, 2010 6:56 pm
Malcolm writes, _______________ But that does not change the simple fact that Stoic philosophy is directed entirely at making it possible for individuals to...
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Malcolm
malcolmschosha
Oct 2, 2010 11:52 am
... .......................... Salve Steve, What I wrote previously is "...Stoicism is intended to give us a way to change ourselves, and is not particularly...
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Paul G
pgrieg
Oct 2, 2010 4:29 pm
... I find modern translations of Seneca, Marcus, and Epictetus far more readable than modern translations of Plato or Homer (or Aristotle!) Modern...
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Amos
vivepablo
Oct 2, 2010 9:51 pm
Paul G: My original query was not so much about which ancient authors are readable, but whether a contemporary reader can bridge the distance which...
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Charles
charleshul
Oct 5, 2010 7:57 am
I for one recognize that many of you here are wiser than I in this philosophy we have chosen. So my presence here is to seek that wisdom. I am a young man and...
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mreeyore1968
Oct 5, 2010 10:45 am
Dear Charles Your question: 'What then is the goal [...] we constantly look to for encouragement?' That goal, in Stoicism, is happiness. Happiness is something...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Oct 5, 2010 3:55 pm
Setting aside being “wise,” I am not, it seems to me your questions is concerned how Stoicism can be both internally focused and yet externally active -if...
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Jan Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 5, 2010 4:31 pm
This is not a direct answer to Charles' questions (it's something I'd already prepared for a different audience), but it is relevant to them. In part, that's...
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John Uebersax
jsuebersax
Oct 5, 2010 5:49 pm
... You will get an interesting perspective on this question by consulting "De Providentia" by Seneca. John Uebersax...
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John Uebersax
jsuebersax
Oct 5, 2010 6:02 pm
... Also, the goal is to grow in Virtue. Besides remembering the goal, perhaps you can find encouragement in knowing that by persevering against adversity you...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 5, 2010 7:18 pm
... [snip] ... *** I am essentially in agreement with everything Jan says in this post. (!) My only comment is not so much disagreement as a difference in...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 5, 2010 8:21 pm
... *** I totally disagree. The Stoic believe that all human beings possess the capacity for reason, but that the vast majority of them were indeed...
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Malcolm
malcolmschosha
Oct 6, 2010 12:21 pm
Jan wrote: If you are serious about social change to promote social justice rather than, or in addition to, promoting your own virtue and/or that of a very few...
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synchronicitate
Oct 7, 2010 6:08 pm
hello, forum members, i wrote the following brief introduction and explanation of what brings me here in my application for membership: my interest in stoic...
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Jan Garrett
chrys1943
Oct 7, 2010 7:09 pm
Thanks, Grant. It's been a while since I've studied The Laws, but I generally agree with your description of it....
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Oct 7, 2010 8:16 pm
Answers below in blue: ... From: synchronicitate <synchronicitate@...> Subject: [stoics] a personal introduction and some questions To:...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 7, 2010 9:11 pm
... *** I would be surprised if anyone says "yes"-- certainly I haven't achieved it. On the other hand, I can say with confidence that I experience pathe less...
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Malcolm
malcolmschosha
Oct 8, 2010 12:35 pm
Salve Thomas, In the Stoic documents that survive the authors, when they speak of themselves, speak of themselves as a work in progress. The Greek conception,...
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smellincoffee
Oct 8, 2010 1:41 pm
Greetings, all. Earlier this summer I began reading Will Durant's "Story of Civilization" series and have noted something curious. From the first book ("Our...
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TheophileEscargot
snailman100
Oct 8, 2010 2:01 pm
This is certainly a thought-provoking post. First, I'm curious for the basis of this paragraph: "The Stoic believe that all human beings possess the capacity...
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synchronicitate
Oct 8, 2010 9:05 pm
hi, kevin, grant, and malcolm, thank you for your replies. while i will now ask follow-up questions to some of your responses here, i would still appreciate...
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Malcolm
malcolmschosha
Oct 8, 2010 10:39 pm
... ......................................... Salve Thomas, Epictetus, Seneca, and Marcus Aurelius, the main Stoic sources that survive, all speak of...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Oct 9, 2010 3:31 am
Thomas, I don't want to rob you of all the benefit of figuring out the answers to your first set of questions for yourself :). THOMAS: does the stoic...
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Ghi O
subtenante
Oct 9, 2010 7:16 am
Hi Thomas. I'm not sure about your methodology. You seem to be looking for answers in books, as if philosophy was something fixed, finished, bounded. Books are...
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synchronicitate
Oct 9, 2010 8:32 am
hi, kevin, THOMAS: is there anyone here who has accomplished apatheia and is entirely free from pathe? is there anyone here who knows someone who has...
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synchronicitate
Oct 9, 2010 10:47 am
hi, guillaume, GUILLAUME: I'm not sure about your methodology. # what is it about my methodology which you are unsure? GUILLAUME: You seem to be looking for...
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Ghi O
subtenante
Oct 9, 2010 12:05 pm
Hi Thomas. Sorry, I had not understood you were more on the academic/sociologic side. :) ... No better, I guess I got it from "Stoicism for dummies". I guess...
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Paul G
pgrieg
Oct 9, 2010 4:11 pm
... ... and his letters! E.g, LXVI ON VARIOUS ASPECTS OF VIRTUE. But why not start at I? In fact, making his letters the main sub-goal is, I suggest, the most...
