Hi all I saw somewhere that the Meditations were originally titled To Myself. Is this true? Where did the name Meditations come from? Thanks Julian...
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joshuageller
Dec 2, 2009 9:28 pm
When a Roman citizen was put on trial, he was normally a 'guest' in the magistrate's house. They were not tortured, nor were they mistreated unless or until...
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joshuageller
Dec 2, 2009 9:31 pm
When a Roman citizen was put on trial, he was normally a 'guest' in the magistrate's house. They were not tortured, nor were they mistreated unless or until...
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joshuageller
Dec 2, 2009 9:32 pm
Please define the term 'circa'. Is 50 AD circa 55 AD? What about 45 AD? ....
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joshuageller
Dec 2, 2009 9:35 pm
Judaism was also somewhat different then. The Temple still existed, for one thing. Modern Judaism was developed *after* the Temple was destroyed. ....
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Jan Garrett
chrys1943
Dec 3, 2009 1:57 am
The Greek title, according to the Loeb Classical Library edition, is MARKOU AURELIOU ANTININOU AUTOKRATOROS TON EIS EAUTON, which reasonably translates as...
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dtstrain
Dec 3, 2009 6:18 am
Hi all, I've been looking for Stoic references which may be a correlate to the concept of interdependence/interconnectedness in Buddhism. Or, perhaps even a...
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londonstoic
Dec 3, 2009 1:20 pm
Thanks Jan best Julian ... From: Jan Garrett <jan.garrett@...> Subject: [stoics] The real title of Marcus Aurelius' Meditations To: "Stoics"...
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jamesbergh
Dec 3, 2009 5:49 pm
Greetings, Moving out of Buddhism, into Hellenism :); I find this correlation in Chrysippus and the Hau-yen( The Flower Ornament Scripture-Avatamsaka...
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Oyvind Randers-Pehrson
oyvindrp
Dec 4, 2009 10:34 pm
The Old Norwegian edition I got from my grandfather bears the title "To Myself" in Norwegian. Just thought I'd add that. all the best. cheers. Oyvind (the...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 5, 2009 12:30 am
The Stoic concept of sympatheia is very close to what Buddhists usually associate with words like "interdependence/interconnectedness". The Greek word...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Dec 7, 2009 12:03 pm
... Hmm, didn't we have a long discussion on this subject a long time ago? In the intervening time, I blogged on the question of whether atheism is a positive...
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Daniel
dtstrain
Dec 7, 2009 1:17 pm
I agree any position other than agnosticism is an assertion. However, atheism is not "other than agnosticism". ALL agnostics are, by definition, atheists...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 2:30 pm
An "atheist" who believes that he or she is receiving telepathic messages from nature spirits? Curt...
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dtstrain
Dec 7, 2009 3:38 pm
Yes. That goes to show just how bare-bones, single-issue, and limited the term is. THEISM = belief that a god or gods exist. A-X = without X A-THEISM = without...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 4:01 pm
But you are positing an artificially clean distinction between what you term "gods" and other beasties such as "nature spirits". Polytheistic societies believe...
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Martin Reznick
ahfsecretary
Dec 7, 2009 4:53 pm
There have been and continue to be monotheistic societies that believe in spectra of beings as well. The distinction between theism and atheism survives this...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 5:29 pm
... It is an open, and hotly debated, question whether or not monotheism is, in fact, compatible with belief in a spectra of beings. A great many Christians...
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Martin Reznick
ahfsecretary
Dec 7, 2009 6:18 pm
Both of your remarks are non sequiturs. Whether or not monotheism is theologically compatible with other beliefs is not important. It is not hotly debated...
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joshuageller
Dec 7, 2009 6:35 pm
Robin: no shit. And still they argue. ....
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joshuageller
Dec 7, 2009 6:37 pm
You can use any term to mean whatever you want it to mean, as long as you redefine it properly. ....
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 9:11 pm
If being a monotheist still allows one to believe whatever one likes, then nothing can be proven based on anecdotal (or even more reliable) reports about what...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 9:13 pm
... No, in fact that is not true. Words do have meanings, and these are not arbitrarily decided on from scratch each time someone opens their mouth or sits...
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stevemarquis...
Dec 7, 2009 9:14 pm
Curt writes: ______________ Consciousness has yet to be even provisionally "explained" on a materialist, or even empiricist, basis. So there is no merit to...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Dec 7, 2009 10:02 pm
... The OED defines atheism as "Disbelief in, or denial of, the existence of a God." You are adopting the first definition; I am using the second. Neither is...
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Martin Reznick
ahfsecretary
Dec 7, 2009 10:04 pm
If monotheism is not actually a category that describes what people actually believe or how they self-identify, then it is not useful for anything except ...
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joshuageller
Dec 7, 2009 11:23 pm
I should say that I agree with you, but I am afraid that some people, not necessarily you, might think that I am using irony and do not in fact agree with you....
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dtstrain
Dec 7, 2009 11:32 pm
============== Curt wrote: But you are positing an artificially clean distinction between what you term "gods" and other beasties such as "nature spirits". ...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 11:46 pm
There is only one possible meaning for monotheism: it means belief in one and only one God. This does not mean that all monotheists are always consistent, nor...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Dec 7, 2009 11:49 pm
One groups' beasties are another groups' Gods. This is very literally the case with polytheistic religions as they have been historically viewed by...
