Hello, Thank you for you response, sorry if I have got a few details wrong, but I really do know very little about Stoicism and are trying to educate myself. I...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Sep 3, 2001 5:47 pm
Sorry I my first reply got sent by accident before I had time to type anything:-) I doubt there is any provable influence of Stoicism on modern "Christian...
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SumEsSumus@...
Sep 3, 2001 9:29 pm
In a message dated 9/3/01 1:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tc266@... ... check out St. Augustine Barry...
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SumEsSumus@...
Sep 3, 2001 9:50 pm
In a message dated 9/3/01 5:30:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,...
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SumEsSumus@...
Sep 3, 2001 9:59 pm
thanx..was not aware it was in there...it must have been part of the message I copied...sorry Barry n a message dated 9/3/01 5:51:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,...
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Jan E Garrett
jangarrett@...
Sep 4, 2001 12:28 am
I agree with Thomas that most of the influence that Stoicism was to have on Christianity occurred a long time ago. There may be no way of telling exactly how...
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adwelly@...
Sep 10, 2001 9:14 pm
I've been reading Prof. Becker (A new Stoicism, Princeton 1998) with some interest recently but I seem to be consistently failing to understand his argument...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Sep 12, 2001 8:25 pm
Dear Friends, I am holding a Stoic Workshop in Watford, England, on Saturday 20th October. Just in case anyone is near enough to come, I will attach a Word...
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Jan E Garrett
jangarrett@...
Sep 15, 2001 4:50 pm
translated from a Latin ms. recently discovered in the archives of a remote monastery somewhere in central Europe. The ms. is obviously (;-) a copy of a much...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Sep 15, 2001 8:11 pm
Superb text, could it be a forgery though? I thought that the only pagans left in 410 CE were Neo-platonists. Thomas ... De : "Jan E Garrett"...
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Jan E Garrett
jangarrett@...
Sep 15, 2001 9:10 pm
Forgery? Peut-etre, but how about a momentary revival of the ancient practice of composing something and attributing it to an honored predecessor who you think...
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LYNN D DEWEES
lynndewees@...
Sep 16, 2001 4:17 am
... From: "Jan E Garrett" <jangarrett@...> ... Oddly enough, as I was driving around today counting the "God Bless America" signs, it occurred to me that...
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Mike Campbell
mikpame@...
Sep 17, 2001 8:57 am
I believe it is not enough to accept the events that happened last week. As a stoic I feel obligated to try and save lives by supporting actions that may...
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Andy Dwelly
adwelly@...
Sep 17, 2001 1:28 pm
Marcus Aurelius prosecuted several wars [the subject's been on my mind lately] and I thought I'd see if he'd actually written anything on the subject. It turns...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Sep 17, 2001 3:46 pm
... The Stoic's aim in 'making progress' is to make progress towards perfection. The fact that others know nothing of this ideal, or even pursue flawed ideals...
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dchave@...
Sep 17, 2001 5:38 pm
This is a test of our principles. And an excellent opportunity to observe our reactions to these events. I will not say that as stoics we espouse any...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Sep 17, 2001 8:08 pm
... I wonder if my Bibliography might be of any use? ... Bibliography (Note: Loeb editions include the original Greek or Latin text with English translation on...
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Ronald Hale-Evans
rwhe@...
Sep 17, 2001 9:46 pm
... Epictetus and Marcus Aurelius would say the terrorists did no one any harm. Harsh, maybe, but that's the Stoic viewpoint as I understand it. As for your...
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labienus@...
Sep 17, 2001 11:53 pm
Hello Stoics, At what point is war justified? On the one hand, war is an inherently immoral activity. Once one begins to participate in warfare, one is...
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Dean Baratta
iago@...
Sep 18, 2001 3:11 am
As a novice stoic and member of the military I was wondering if anyone could point out any works that either show stoicisms influence on the military or any...
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Jonathan Hemlock
jghemlock@...
Sep 18, 2001 3:25 am
... I would argue that since the persons responsible for the WTC destruction are disbursed throughout and threaten the entire world, that the "comunity"; and...
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Jonathan Hemlock
jghemlock@...
Sep 18, 2001 3:36 am
... What confirmation of this do you have? Also, I would argue that murdering someone constitutes harming them. I think that you might want to consider...
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dchave@...
Sep 18, 2001 7:57 am
All nations have as their fundamental creed such sophistry as "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness", said or not a state pressuposes the welfare of ITS...
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Timothy Anstiss
Anstiss.Shl@...
Sep 18, 2001 8:31 am
Is mentioning old west "wanted dead or alive" posters the equivalent of issuing a fatwa? Will the above increase the issuance of fatwa by various mullahs over...
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Ronald Hale-Evans
rwhe@...
Sep 18, 2001 9:32 am
... I think you will find that the ancient Stoics really would hold this, position and that it only seems paradoxical to you because you were brought up in a...
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Andy Dwelly
adwelly@...
Sep 18, 2001 10:53 am
... space purposes] Hmm. A novice question then: 1. Fact: Terrorists crashing planes into WTC with around 5000 dead did not 'harm' the dead, position supported...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Sep 18, 2001 11:28 am
Hello Jonathan, In response to ... It is basic Stoic doctrine that the only harm one can suffer is to be motivated by vice and to do vicious things. This is...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Sep 18, 2001 11:52 am
... The Stoic making progress would not deliberately participate in such violence, because altho on the Stoic view those who suffer violence have not really...
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labienus@...
Sep 18, 2001 3:29 pm
... So, what would you say that the proper Stoic response to encountering a person assaulting another person would be? Would it be: a) to realize that no...
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Jonathan Hemlock
jghemlock@...
Sep 18, 2001 4:12 pm
... Certainly, you are entitled to your opinion about our government's roles and responsibilities. The very fact that you can openly criticize it speaks...
