Jan writes: __________ Â It seems to me that what we call reason is actually a collection of skills having to do with concepts and their connections and the...
... default position that was accepting of nearly all possible religiosities, and such an approach to religion is incompatible with what Jan Assmann and many ...
... [some small snips] ... I agree. That is, I agree that there are people who can be reasonably term 'nature mystics', that some of these people identify...
At most Stoics were religious "reformers". They did not seek to overthrow the existing Pagan religious traditions, rather they sought to systematize those...
A couple of quotes from the Discourses: When then shall I see Athens again and the Acropolis? Wretch, are you not content with what you see daily? Have you...
I have to agree here. The stand that only theists can legitimately see virtue in nature is ridiculous. Fulfilling the promise of one's nature, or of the...
I wrote, in a response to Steve. ... Analytics, ... political ... understood ... understood that way. (Or, at least, the final stages of such reasoning can be...
it is essential to distinguish between the Christian concept of "Creator" and the very different concept of Demiurge, or Divine Artificer. The Stoics were...
Possibly, but I really don't care what the ancient Greeks though of Zeus. At most it is a historical curiosity. What I am looking at is how Stoic principles...
William Irvine author of a "Stoic guide to the good life" mentions a new book on Musonius see below As I mention in the "Stoic Reading Program" appendix to A...
You would not be paying for pages in a book, but Stoic wisdom. ... You would not be paying for pages in a book, but Stoic wisdom. gert.joos@... wrote: ...
Fair amount of research on an obscure ancient philosopher, not a very wide audience either. Looks like there are a fair number of books out of print, very few...
... different concept of Demiurge, or Divine Artificer. ... explicit at several points in the Discourses, beginning with Book One, Chapter One. ... For...
... the existing Pagan religious traditions, rather they sought to systematize those traditions, while also preserving and perpetuating those traditions. ...
There is no ambiguity. Epictetus addresses his fellow Pagans in exactly the same way that Christian philosophers address their fellow Christians. Epictetus...
Posted by: "Michel Daw" michel.daw@... michelgdaw Tue Sep 1, 2009 9:09 am (PDT) Michel writes, "The stand that only theists can legitimately see virtue...
... And this is where we disagree. Your definition of virtue is not agreed upon. And nowhere did I mention individual. Atheist does not equal egotist. The...
... same way that Christian philosophers address their fellow Christians. Epictetus seeks to "lift up", if you will, his fellow Pagans, to a higher ...
I (a non-theistic Humanist Stoic) look at it like this... 1) There is a purpose/function for defining words. 2) There is therefore a purpose/function in...
Umm do 4 and 9 contradict each other? Since Nature is not within our control, but only our choices with regard to it. It is a great list, and I think you can...
... value achievement, stoics won't achieve anything worthwhile.<<< What is this 'achievement' that Stoics do not value? I am also wondering where it is that...
... We've already covered Bertrand Russell's critiques of stoicism extensively. But one extract was: He [Marcus Aurelius] never inferred that the goodness of...
Thanks Michel, You say you can think of natural things that are not beneficial. If by "natural things" you simply mean things from nature, then you're probably...
Thanks Daniel. That does sharpen things up. My only tripping up point is that the phrase "It so happens" makes the relationship between accordance with Nature...
Epictetus appeals to the common belief in Zeus as the fashioner of the Cosmos and of human beings. He appeals to a common belief in the inherent divinity of...
Hi Michel, my responses to your response are inserted in the copy of your response. Best wishes--Jan Posted by: "Michel Daw" michel.daw@... michelgdaw ...
