When I came across Aurelius, I admired his book greatly and I also admired many aspects of his character: his simple manner of living, his decision to lead the...
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Thomas
tc23@...
Mar 2, 2001 9:29 am
Marcus Aurelius on the gladiatorial games: "As it happens to thee in the amphitheatre and such places, that the continual sight of the same things and the...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:34 pm
Thomas writes, ... This is a book about which I have also heard good things (from my sister-in-law, who has a Ph. D. in French, though she has retrained as a ...
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Thomas
tc23@...
Mar 2, 2001 2:52 pm
Jan, Your comparison of Stoicism and the existentialisms is superb. One point that could connect Nietzsche with the Stoics too is his "amor fati" (loving...
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Thomas
tc23@...
Mar 3, 2001 10:05 am
A splendid analysis (the best I've read anywhere) of the positive meaning of the gladiatorial games to the Romans, as actually moral (!) because theaching...
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dchave@...
Mar 3, 2001 10:51 am
"Reason....is a subtle passion"...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 5, 2001 2:59 pm
I forwarded Thomas' latest contribution on Stoics and Gladiators to a historian colleague of mine. He wrote back: Jan: Thanks for the gladiator piece. It is...
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Thomas
tc23@...
Mar 5, 2001 4:42 pm
... De : "Jan Garrett" <jan.garrett@...> It is particularly interesting that these ... Etruscans). ... Very interesting, but it seems in contradiction with...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 12, 2001 4:26 pm
Can we help this author? The reference does not come immediately to mind. I think I've seen it, though. It may be a version of an image Plato has Socrates use...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 12, 2001 4:55 pm
I did a word search on "water" and "bucket" in all of Epictetus' works and found nothing like Joyce's saying. Probably the pure creation of Joyce's genius. ...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 12, 2001 5:02 pm
Thanks, Thomas, but since we don't know the Greek word Joyce may have in mind, perhaps we should search for "jar" or "vessel" as well. Maybe our researcher can...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 12, 2001 5:40 pm
This turned up with a search on "vessel;" it could have inspired Joyce indirectly, but there is no water here, just figs and nuts... "To you everything appears...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 12, 2001 6:44 pm
from Plato, Gorgias, tr. Robin Waterfield, Oxford Univ. Press (1994): "[Socrates is speaking] Would you accept something along the following lines as an image...
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Timothy Anstiss
Anstiss.Shl@...
Mar 13, 2001 5:14 am
you guys are great. (me thinking it doesn't make it so, but I thought you might be at least indifferent towards my respect) tim anstiss ... From: Thomas...
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Jan Garrett
jan.garrett@...
Mar 14, 2001 3:03 pm
Dear Dr. Garrett: Thank you for your help with the philosophy of Epictetus and the reference to it in the work of James Joyce. I don't know whether Joyce spoke...
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dhughlew@...
Mar 16, 2001 4:25 am
Hi Jan, I think the Epictetus quote your Joyce researcher is looking for is located in the last paragraph of the third chapter of the third book of the ...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 17, 2001 12:48 pm
These Greek terms are amusing... I'll start by quoting Aetius (A.D. 100): "Chrysippus says that these four [i.e. impression (phantasia), impressor ...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 18, 2001 12:51 pm
But, not all impressions (phantasia) are cause by physical objects, there are "incorporeals" that can cause impressions too! Seneca explains that the physical...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 18, 2001 3:26 pm
What's the importance of these lekta (logical impressions) coming to us together with the impressions (phantasia) of objects? It is to these lekta, which are...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Mar 18, 2001 8:23 pm
Hello Thomas, ********** Long & Sedley comment: "All impressions (phantasia) of mature human beings are envisaged to have a propositional content and we assent...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 18, 2001 9:19 pm
Keith, thanks for that information. I can't help seeing similarities with this Stoic extinction of passion with Buddhism or Christianity, or Spinoza's ...
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Caleb Williamson
caleb@...
Mar 18, 2001 11:42 pm
I have recently finished reading Laurence Becker's _A New Stoicism_, and I wondered if anyone else on the list had read it and what they thought of it. I am...
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Timothy Anstiss
Anstiss.Shl@...
Mar 19, 2001 5:57 am
caleb asks what people think of beckers claim 1.) That an ethics and attitude toward life similar to what the ancient Stoic philosophers taught can be...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 19, 2001 7:23 am
... De : "Caleb Williamson" <caleb@...> 1.) That an ethics and attitude toward life similar to ... Well he does add some modern touches, such as a...
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ELEN BUZARE
elen_buzare@...
Mar 19, 2001 11:03 am
Dear Thomas, I share your views about question n°2. You also indirectly pointed out how important it is to update physics. What has been done so far ? I am...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 19, 2001 11:27 am
... De : "ELEN BUZARE" <elen_buzare@...> ... Yes it's great! It fills in all the gaps we always have about Stoicism because we just see the ethics; the...
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Keith Seddon
K.H.S@...
Mar 19, 2001 1:08 pm
Hello Thomas, Re: Frédérique Ildefonse Les Stoïciens 1 Zénon, Cléanthe, Chrysippe Les Belles Lettres For those of us who cannot read French, we need to...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 19, 2001 5:02 pm
... publisher. ... It just came out; the editor is at www.lesbelleslettres.com but I don't see the title on the web site yet. The collection is "Figures du...
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Thomas
tc266@...
Mar 19, 2001 7:46 pm
Some examples of Marcus Aurelius' use of logical propositions: "Say nothing more to thyself than what the first appearances report. Suppose that it has been...
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dchave@...
Mar 19, 2001 11:18 pm
The Stoic virtues are to action/mental states what the Platonic ideas are to the forms of this world. The perfect is the model and pattern. The Logos is the...
