Grand! Lively forum, some great posts that make you think. Occasional hair-splitting and dancing angel analyses (when pin-heads are referenced) but if you look...
Matt writes: _________________ I put it to you that a motive that generates intent and action that fails to realize the desired effect falls under the Stoic...
... OK, but this is a discussion list about Stoic philosophy. It wouldn't be appropriate to say "Socrates led a Spartan lifestyle" on a discussion list...
Grant: Logical Positivism dictates that any statements about morality, being unverifiable, are descriptively meaningless. That's as incompatible with...
... Don't forget inerrancy. According to Grant, Steve, Keith, ..., one can only achieve Stoic eudaimonia if one also becomes free from error. Peace Gich ... ...
... were Deontologists who argued that acts are inherently good or evil, regardless of the consequences or intentions of those acts.<<< The deontologist, in...
... I'm sorry if my earlier comment was a bit aggressive. Oh, the joys of youth. Personally, I find that the only way to understand what I call "true identity"...
Matt writes: _________________ Logical Positivism argues that unverifiable statements about morality are descriptively meaningless. Many moral arguments...
To Steve: Astutely argued. For the record though, Logical Positivism can represent a first-person objective argument. www.philosophypages.com/hy/6q.htm ...
... Ah! This little word 'even'; ... with such deep inner meaning! :) With regard to philosophical argument, counter-examples are fine -- a standard way of...
... This is news to me. Certainly not Stoicism. Does Epictetus say anything like this? Trying to successfully define what we mean by a 'correct choice'...
Hey Michel aint no party like a Stoic party ... From: Michel Daw <michel.daw@...> Subject: Re: [stoics] Re: Greetings! To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Date:...
Why do i get the picture of a bunch of guys in togas sitting around with a quiet contemplative look on their faces. Wait that is the Peripatetic lounge. Ah...
You can't have a decent argument without passion! :) ... From: Michel Daw To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 4:15 PM Subject: Re:...
Gich: Does Epictetus say anything like this? Trying to successfully define what we mean by a 'correct choice' _without_ referring to outcomes or consequences...
Kevin: Rational probability of an action is good enough for it to qualify as correct. Gich: Does Epictetus say anything like this? Kevin: Yes 2.6. Sorry for...
2.6.9 ... From: gich2 <gich2@...> Subject: Re: [stoics] Re: The Importance of Consequences To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009,...
2.6.9 ... From: gich2 <gich2@...> Subject: Re: [stoics] Re: The Importance of Consequences To: stoics@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009,...
I have little time, so I'll steer clear of all the questions about whether Stoicism teaches that correct choice has nothing to do with consequences. Obviously...
Hi Jules! Of course! How are you doing? I'm sorry I kind of ducked out for a while. I'll explain when time permits. I'm doing pretty well. Work has been...
LOL!! From what I've seen, there's plenty of passionate discussion around here. That's good. Michel and Jules: It's great to see you guys on here. I don't...
I've yet to hear much about Virtue Ethics, which seems to be a more appropriate ethical paradigm to the Stoic emphasis on Virtue/Vice. In short, the Stoic,...
Matt: How would you attempt to define Eudaimonia? Kevin: I have observed that scholars on this list and elsewhere think it difficult to accurately translate...
Happiness is actually a pretty good translation of eudaimonia. Most of the problems encountered in defining what ancient philosophers meant by eudaimonia are...
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