I agree Amos Pity works the best though as these individuals are lost souls who blame the whole world for their misfortune. I have found Seneca's essay "On...
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yzohar@...
yzohar...
Mar 1, 2009 9:44 am
... Jesus, never made it past his own cultural traditions, which is rather sad. He had to try to argue that Luke was written first to support his...
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Gary C. Moore
gottlos752004
Mar 1, 2009 1:29 pm
Dear All, To risk blundering in where I may not be wanted, I find understanding both Wittgenstein and Derrida needs a physical stance quite literally and as...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Mar 1, 2009 4:49 pm
Is anyone out there familiar with Henry Hine's work on Seneca's "Natural Questions"? In particular he has produced an edition with commentary of Book II, and...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Mar 1, 2009 6:14 pm
... eco-fascists. It does not follow from the fact that one believes in many gods that one cannot also be a fascist. ... organizations ("hate groups"), you...
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stevemarquis@...
stevemarquis...
Mar 1, 2009 6:19 pm
Gich writes: ____________________ As we've discussed before, if you _really_ want to be a Stoic sage you have to become expert 'at faking emotions' since this...
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Todd Jackson
tojackso
Mar 1, 2009 7:06 pm
... will, of ... that ... Greetings, This seems as good a spit for me to jump in and introduce myself as any. Like a few people here, I'm a religious Hellenic...
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Curt Steinmetz
enkiduq
Mar 1, 2009 8:37 pm
Epictetus and Seneca were nothing if not impassioned in how they expressed themselves. Clearly these two great Stoics were vibrant, fascinating and emotionally...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Mar 1, 2009 8:42 pm
... .............................................. Jan, You seem to be saying that you think a Nazi could be a 'good' Stoic. Am I reading you correctly? ...
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Kevin
kevin11_c
Mar 1, 2009 8:43 pm
The way I understand it the stoic definition of Pathos it is “an irrational movement of the soul.” So this definition may not fit what some would call an...
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stevemarquis@...
stevemarquis...
Mar 1, 2009 8:58 pm
Gich writes: __________________ The Stoic fundamentalists in the group don't consider 'emotionlessness' as a 'danger' at all. The opposite, in fact. They view...
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 1, 2009 9:23 pm
Steve: A very honest and authentic post. Thanks. Amos ... our ... the ... symptoms ... the ... any ... or ... amalgam ... are ... trying ... than ... ...
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Todd Jackson
tojackso
Mar 1, 2009 10:00 pm
... Excellent, Steve. This does open up a workable space. Because I see no advantage at all to indifference toward the Good. It seems that in pointing toward...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 1, 2009 10:28 pm
Hi Malcolm, I don't see how you came to this conclusion from what I said. I didn't say that Heidegger was a Stoic philosopher. There is more to philosophy than...
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Malcolm Schosha
malcolmschosha
Mar 1, 2009 11:17 pm
... ........................... Jan, If I understand you correctly, you are saying that Stoicism can offer us a way to live more effectively, but can not...
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 1, 2009 11:28 pm
Malcolm: As far as I know, a Nazi could not be a true Stoic, because a Stoic lives a virtuous life, the 4 chief virtues being justice, temperance,...
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Vicki Russell
vrussell001
Mar 1, 2009 11:43 pm
Hi Malcolm, One of the greatest of the stoics was Marcus Aurelius, he did do some distasteful things in torturing Christians to death because they refused...
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Nicholas Tracy
nchlstracy
Mar 2, 2009 12:04 am
I suppose it depends if you have an adeqaute understanding of National Socialism or just a biased opinion. I notice there is always this immediate Ad Hominem...
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Nicholas Tracy
nchlstracy
Mar 2, 2009 12:07 am
By the way, May I ask why people Judge National Socialists by the action of Adolf Eichmann? He was a Bureaucrat in a large Organization. Hardly a National...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Mar 2, 2009 12:26 am
... Certainly true. Here's my take: a "Nazi" is not merely a fascist, but someone who identifies with the specific historical version of fascism embodied in...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Mar 2, 2009 12:36 am
... Naziism is a convenient target of attacks, since almost everyone across the political spectrum can agree that the Final Solution was wrong. I quite agree...
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Nicholas Tracy
nchlstracy
Mar 2, 2009 12:47 am
But for instance, I do not, as a National Socialist, belive in Aryan superiority nor do I advocate extermination....
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Vicki Russell
vrussell001
Mar 2, 2009 1:01 am
To the best of my knowledge, Nazis were those guys running around in Sebastian Haffner's Germany round about the second world war. A good time was definently...
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Nicholas Tracy
nchlstracy
Mar 2, 2009 1:04 am
From what I've seen, read, and heard a good time was had by a large majority. I'm not trying to push any of my views on anyone. And if you have already judged...
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Vicki Russell
vrussell001
Mar 2, 2009 1:19 am
Would you call yourself a Nazi? Neo or old school? Do you adhere to the political platform which the majority of the German people thought sounded good enough...
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 2, 2009 1:42 am
Look. I condemn the recent Israeli bombing of civilians in Gaza, the U.S. bombing of Hirsohima and Viet Nam, the Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, but...
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Nicholas Tracy
nchlstracy
Mar 2, 2009 2:10 am
What did the 'Nazis' give us? Arno Breker. Fritz Klimsch. Josef Thorak. The worlds first breast cancer campaign. Worker's rights in the factories: In the early...
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Michael Marino
unkmonk1
Mar 2, 2009 2:20 am
There are several Stoic ideals/doctrines that would preclude membership in the Nazi party and the Communists, especially under Stalin. Stoicism...
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Sophia Shapira
sophia_shapira
Mar 2, 2009 3:00 am
First of all ---- how is it possible for a philosophy to be a racial-exclusive philosophy without being a racist philosophy? Do explain, please. Second of all...
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Vicki Russell
vrussell001
Mar 2, 2009 4:16 am
Well it is true enough that "having a good time" is not a stoic criterion for judging a person or a society, permit me a little irony if you will. I think...
