Thanks Erika for the welcome. The diversity here is already obvious and it's very welcome from my point of view. I love fact that Stoicism is so diverse. On...
Hey Steve, ... what exactly do you mean by 'enlightened'?<< The second one is very big, maybe too big for my second day here! But I mean, in Western terms,...
Mark wrote: "Working class" is no more an intrinsic part of you than is American-ness, male-ness, etc. Why trip on it? .................................... ...
Pardon me, Mr Inferiority Complex, but I stopped attending school when I was fourteen. I've been a soldier, a businessman, a psychiatric nurse, a taxi driver...
I said "this group", I did not say every member in this group. I thought that would be obvious enough, without making a short message long by discussing all...
... Certainly not bothersome, Malcolm. Bathetic, maybe, but never bothersome. ............................ Bathetic? Well, if that's the way you see it....
(resending of message because the first time seemed to fail.) Bathetic? Well, if that's the way you see it. Personally I think its funny. Malcolm ... From:...
Actually, what strikes me about this list, which includes only four professional philosophers (rough count) is the amount of learning and reflection about...
... It is widely believed that what is taught in classrooms as "philosophy" today bears little resemblance to the genuine article. No offense to the pros on...
The best study I've read lately on the real nature of modern "democracy" as distinguished from the fictions we like to tell ourselves about it is Edmund S....
In the thirty years I lived in California I must have met thousands of people who were studying under some `enlightened teacher' – many who considered...
Plato and Zeno (reading between the lines) were at least approximately right in suggesting that learning philosophy requires a "person enamored of the good."...
Well Steve I can only tell you that Glenn would have agreed with you wholeheartedly on many points, as do I. 98% bull is the rule on such question, in fact the...
I have no doubt that many persons experience what is commonly called enlightenment. I wonder why that experience is considered to be higher than our normal...
Hey Amos, We're threatening to go off the topic of this thread and of the entire board... ... I think only very few. ... The enlightenment I'm talking about...
Thanks, Jan, for continuing this in a seperate thread. I was thinking about chiming in, but I was concerned that the old thread was getting too off topic. ...
Ralph Waldo Emerson, "The Over-Soul." http://www.vcu.edu/engweb/transcendentalism/authors/emerson/index.html Click on Complete Works, then on Browse, then on...
I assume that your response to Amos included the real definition of enlightenment from the enlightened one himself (or maybe it was from the other enlightened...
Look, I've been to Buddhist meditation sessions and after an hour of meditating in silence, your mind gets calmer, your blood pressure goes down, you...
Note all the conceptual metaphors here. Higher. Awakening. Perhaps all we know about higher things when somebody is describing them as such is that the...
Malcolm, I think it is silly to bring one's relationship to the means of production into the conversation as if it had any relevance. It is also ironic that...
Steve, It's obviously fine with me if you don't want to pursue enlightenment, or know you are better off without it! I don't suggest otherwise, I was simply...
Jan Garrett: <<Is "higher" what some people call an incomplete predicate? That is, to make sense of what is being said, one must answer "higher (more valuable)...
Jason, Probably this sort of thing comes under the category of what Abraham Maslow called "peak experiences", and which we have previously discussed on the...
Malcolm: << Probably this sort of thing comes under the category of what Abraham Maslow called "peak experiences", and which we have previously discussed on...
Mark, I feel so devastated that you disagree with me about class issues. NB: I did not say social stratification has anything to with Stoic philosophy. I did...
What Malcolm says about peak experiences is true, as is what Jan says about metaphors, that is, we call something "higher" when it has more value for us....