... There's a hadith where Mohammed says that he who resists oppression helps both himself and his oppressor. When someone asked how it helped the oppressor,...
Jan wrote: "End of story." ................................... Jan, You will understand, I hope, that I find your conclusion (essentially QED) to be...
Thank you, Patrick, for serving our country, and for being willing to endure highly dispreferred indifferent situations for the sake of upholding your duties....
I await it with bated breath. ... From: Malcolm Schosha <malcolmschosha@...> Date: Friday, February 1, 2008 6:30 Subject: [stoics] You are an Impression ...
This flies in the face of Stoicism. I would of thought that ignoring the bully and then alerting teachers on yard duty would be a better option. Robin Turner...
Jan wrote: "I await it with bated breath." ......................................................... Jan, I try, when participating in discussions on the...
... It depends on the situation. The Stoic view is that bullying hurts the bully more than the victim, and so in one sense the appropriate response is pity. ...
Jan writes: ___________ . . . when the Stoics wish to evaluate an action, it seems to me, they would focus upon the intention side of it (the active state of...
Grant You make some very good points. I just don't like instilling into kids the notion that you go to fight your way out of everything. Maybe to ignore verbal...
I've worked teaching self-defense to women and teens. The women often have great difficulty distinguishing between fighting and self-defense, but the teens...
Malcolm, it's up to you to return to the subject-matter. I did not try to make this thread a matter of the alleged moral failings of participants in the...
This little sub-thread has gotten very interesting...I've read people's responses, and (from both reflection and personal experience) tend to side with the...
Hello Tony/Edward/Jan, ... I found this book truly hugely interesting. Thank you very much for recommending it. I liked very much that Becker starts out from...
... Hello Tony, ... You have a point there, thank you. Zen-Buddhism, indeed, clearly seems to come from a less rationalistic world than Stoicism. I see now...
... You're welcome. This book has really inspired me to dive in to Stoicism with both feet. ... I agree with one caveat. I think, along with Edward and Jan,...
I have been asked: ************************************************************************ Do you know whether or not there is an association of stoics in ...
... ..................................... Don, Thanks for the list. I see that The Inner Discipline is available as a reprint, on Amazon. I would also suggest...
Menno, Regarding the interpretatio of the second half of the paragraph you quote from Lawrence Becker, I think he intends something closer to your first...
... That seems like a reasonable approach. When I mentioned "extreme violence", I was only talk about physical bullying - when I was a kid, we didn't even ...
... see ... all ... said ... things ... nature". ... it.'' ... only ... this ... satisfying. ... things ... Menno, I really like your explanations here. I...
Thanks for all your replies on this issue. As you have gathered in my past posts I try to bring Stoicism to a level that adapts to the many issues that are...
... .................................. Don, I do not think Assagioli was a Stoic, but many of his training techniques are easily for Stoics to adopt. Frankl, I...
Is "follow nature" a precept in the sense of a concise verbalizable formula that can quickly call us back to a proper course of action in especially adverse...
No big disagreements here, but I want to remind you that you are using the term "right action" differently from the classical Stoic writers (the term...
... imagination and the will come into conflict, imagination always wins. If that should be correct the entire Stoic project would be meaningless because, in...
Hi Don, Thanks for the interesting answer. I will need some time to think about that. In my previous message I had not commented on what seemed to be your main...
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Malcolm, I think point number 2 requires some revision. My understanding is that Stoics believe people are always moved by what they think is good or bad....
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