... teeth filled without a pain killer. My dentist was appalled, but agreed. I had many teeth filled that way, but somehow, after many years I was no longer...
1823
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 2, 2000 3:10 am
Bert writes: I think, finally, my question has been answered. The Sage would always choose the good tasting wine (unless there is some purpose in choosing the...
1824
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 2, 2000 3:11 am
[In chapter 12 Langius in effect accuses Lipsius of hubris for his further pursuit of a solution to the theological problem of evil; a move which is perhaps...
1825
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 2, 2000 5:26 pm
Jan wrote: ______________ The classical Stoics would say he would select the preferred indifferent here, subject to the qualifications that so doing is ...
1826
bertr
bertr@...
Feb 2, 2000 11:12 pm
... From: Jan E Garrett <JANGARRETT@...> To: International Stoic Forum <stoics@onelist.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2000 8:10 PM Subject: [stoics]...
1827
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 3, 2000 2:22 am
... I didn't set up the example, but now I am moved to say that since generosity is a virtue, the person who happens to be rich in conventional terms might...
1828
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 3, 2000 2:36 am
Bert wrote: ___________ Ok, the rich one would choose the preferred indifferents (always compatible with virtue). The poor one cannot afford preferred...
1829
bertr
bertr@...
Feb 3, 2000 5:38 pm
... From: Jan E Garrett To: International Stoic Forum Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 7:22 PM Subject: [stoics] the rich and poor sage From: Jan E Garrett...
1830
bertr
bertr@...
Feb 3, 2000 5:44 pm
... From: Steve Marquis <smarquis@...> To: <stoics@onelist.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [stoics] selecting indifferents...
1831
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 3, 2000 9:11 pm
I would like to try a different angle. I tend to dwell on the ideal, and I think Bert is coming at this from a very concrete pragmatic perspective. This is a...
1832
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 4, 2000 2:00 am
... One can argue only that, ceteris paribus, it is *preferred* to be a rich sage than a poor one, at least as I read the classical texts....
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Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 4, 2000 2:09 am
... I think "joy" is the correct term. The classical Stoics recognized a good feeling (eupatheia) called joy (chara) that apparently accompanied the exercise...
1834
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 4, 2000 7:59 pm
Jan wrote: ____________ The classical Stoics recognized a good feeling (eupatheia) called joy (chara) that apparently accompanied the exercise of virtue. They ...
1835
bertr@...
Feb 4, 2000 9:36 pm
... From: Steve Marquis <smarquis@...> To: <stoics@onelist.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:11 PM Subject: [stoics] Indifferences: Sages and...
1836
bertr@...
Feb 4, 2000 9:48 pm
... From: Jan E Garrett To: International Stoic Forum Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:00 PM Subject: [stoics] preferred to be a rich sage . . . From: Jan E...
1837
bertr@...
Feb 4, 2000 9:50 pm
... From: Jan E Garrett To: International Stoic Forum Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 7:09 PM Subject: [stoics] joy and pleasure From: Jan E Garrett...
1838
Raul Sebazco
rsebazco@...
Feb 5, 2000 3:56 am
Please remove me from your mailing list. Thank you...
1839
Dhughlew@...
Feb 7, 2000 6:19 am
The February issue of the Stoic Voice Journal is now online at: http://www.joinme.net/stoicvoice/ Richard...
1840
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 7, 2000 10:28 pm
Chapter 13 Yet to certify the curious, three old objections are answered. And first touching evil men not punished. We prove they are reprived, and pardoned....
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Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 9, 2000 1:53 am
[Being the next installment of the Second Booke of Constancie, by Justus Lipsius, published originally in Latin in 1584; originally in English a decade later....
1842
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 9, 2000 10:14 pm
It seems like I've always had too many projects and not enough time. I must have a built in subroutine running that says if I don't get everything done,...
1843
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 10, 2000 12:25 am
Steve's question is an excellent one. I feel the same pressures. And I agree that we cannot simply BLAME it on technology, as if we could assign moral ...
1844
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 10, 2000 12:36 am
Chapter 15 That pains after this life are prepared for evildoers. And most commonly also external punishments. Confirmed by some notable examples. Join...
1845
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 10, 2000 1:18 am
As an addendum to my prior post today --- Voluntary Simplicity Voluntary simplicity involves both inner and outer conditions. It means singleness of purpose,...
1846
Jan E Garrett
JANGARRETT@...
Feb 10, 2000 1:10 pm
Chapter 16 An answer to the other objection touching guiltless men. It is proved that all have deserved punishment, for that all are offenders. And who they be...
1847
Mark Zimmermann
z@...
Feb 11, 2000 10:51 am
Steve, tnx for your thoughtful note! No deep wisdom in this reply, but some sympathy and a couple of anecdotes: I share much the same feelings you report ......
1848
IgnatiusO2@...
Feb 11, 2000 6:26 pm
Hello stoics, I've been going through that practical philosophy course that I told you about. It certainly has some value (although no real philosophy yet as...
1849
Steve Marquis
smarquis@...
Feb 12, 2000 12:05 am
Mark wrote: _______________ . . . I find that when I have overcommitted myself I am actually far less productive . . . The concept of “engineering reserve”...
1850
bertr@...
Feb 12, 2000 6:17 pm
... From: Steve Marquis <smarquis@...> To: <stoics@onelist.com> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2000 5:05 PM Subject: [stoics] Re: time pressure &...
1851
VHaddad@...
Feb 13, 2000 9:08 am
In a message dated 2/12/00 10:21:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, bertr@... writes: << Knowing where one wants to go does not eliminate the regret of giving...
