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17579 Robin Turner
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Dec 1, 2007
12:07 pm
... Insult is a good example. If you are insulted in a foreign language you don't speak, you don't feel insulted and you don't get angry. In fact, even if you...
17580 Robin Turner
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Dec 1, 2007
12:29 pm
... Wouldn't most of these instinctive reactions be classified in Stoicism as propatheia? In such cases, there is no need to eliminate the feeling, just as...
17581 Amos
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Dec 1, 2007
1:10 pm
Grant: I don't mean to quibble, because I basically agree with you, but when you say that you've never experienced an emotional response to an event...
17582 Sophia Shapira
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Dec 1, 2007
1:53 pm
I could be wrong --- but I think that the chronological order of reaction to an experience is as follows: 1> Perception 2> Emotion 3> Reason If Stoicism is...
17583 Vicki Russell
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Dec 1, 2007
2:45 pm
And then again, your animal instinct can get you in trouble. If you are driving down a snowy highway and the road turns and your car does not, animal instinct...
17584 Steve
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Dec 1, 2007
4:53 pm
Sophia writes: __________________ I think that the chronological order of reaction to an experience is as follows: 1> Perception 2> Emotion 3> Reason If...
17589 Vicki Russell
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Dec 1, 2007
11:03 pm
... gich2 <gich2@...> wrote: No, no, Vicki! It's only the _female_ 'animal instinct' that will tell you to turn the wheel in the direction you wish...
17590 jan.garrett
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Dec 2, 2007
12:00 am
To say that something "might be the subject of scholarly debate" might mean that the writer is trying to encourage scholarly debate about them, not that there...
17591 jan.garrett
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Dec 2, 2007
12:56 am
Does this response reflect an ambiguity in the term "belief"? In the liberal religious circles I sometimes frequent one often hears it said that religion is...
17592 jan.garrett
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Dec 2, 2007
4:40 am
The Fox, The Grapes, and the Stoa: On Stoicism, Human Dignity, and Adaptive Preferences "Adaptive preferences" is a topic that comes up in discussions of...
17596 Daniel Strain
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Dec 2, 2007
2:21 pm
... I believe this flies in the face of Stoic thought. While the above is a good summary of what most people think, the realization of Stoicism is that this is...
17597 Vicki Russell
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Dec 2, 2007
3:50 pm
I can understand your reluctance, you never know who you are dealing with. I do think that caution can go a bit too far however. (Maybe go to a gas station to...
17598 Steve
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Dec 2, 2007
4:30 pm
Amos asks Grant: __________________ . . . when you say that you've never experienced an emotional response to an event which you did not consider good or bad,...
17599 Steve
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Dec 2, 2007
4:38 pm
Jan writes: __________________ However we might define the eupatheia, say, of joy, it could not be oriented toward an object (if it is oriented toward an...
17600 Vicki Russell
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Dec 2, 2007
4:45 pm
I wonder about the pertinence of Dr. Trapp's comments about Paganism in his review of Keith's book. I feel a bit ill at ease commenting as I have not gotten to...
17601 Vicki Russell
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Dec 2, 2007
4:49 pm
Here's the link: http://osdir.com/ml/education.publications.bryn-mawr-classical-review/2006-11/msg00011.html Vicki Russell <vrussell001@...> wrote: I...
17603 jan.garrett
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Dec 2, 2007
11:24 pm
I have occasionally thought of them in that way myself, Steve. Short of a more thorough study of the evidence than I have time to conduct, I don't know how to...
17604 jan.garrett
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Dec 2, 2007
11:29 pm
The post on the Fox, the Grapes, etc. didn't have anything to do with Dr. Trapp's review of Keith's book. It was an attempt to introduce a fresh topic. ... ...
17605 Steve
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Dec 3, 2007
1:42 am
Jan writes: __________________ But ancient Stoicism seems to speak otherwise. It seems to say that if you are a slave, be the best slave you can be, which of...
17606 Steve
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Dec 3, 2007
2:01 am
Gich writes: __________________ I think this is too simplistic. All the recent discussion on (controlled) emotion, and its role when dealing with challenging...
17607 Grant Sterling
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Dec 3, 2007
2:05 am
Perhaps I can combine my comments on three or four different posts into a single response. First, Gich: ... Stop right here--this is the key. What do you mean...
17608 Grant Sterling
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Dec 3, 2007
2:11 am
... I don't have a fraction of the background that you have on this subject, but why wouldn't eup. have as their objects _real_ goods and evils? So, for...
17609 Grant Sterling
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Dec 3, 2007
2:30 am
... I think it's either 'emotional response' or 'ethical terms' that's causing the problem. Or, perhaps, it's my own notorious aesthetic insensibility. I'm...
17610 Grant Sterling
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Dec 3, 2007
2:39 am
... I don't understand this. I don't understand how one situation can be 'more challenging' than another, except by reference to my judgment about the harsm...
17611 jan.garrett
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Dec 3, 2007
2:43 am
Perhaps your solution to the question of the proper objects of the propatheiai is correct, so far as the classical Stoics who wrote about it are concerned. But...
17612 Sophia Shapira
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Dec 3, 2007
2:52 am
Maybe we were using different terms to refer to the same thing. Though, the term "Judgement", as I understanding, refers to consciously making a decision as to...
17613 Grant Sterling
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Dec 3, 2007
3:02 am
... Steve has already addressed this, and I just wanted to second his comment. First, though, I should note the odd result that Stoicism here seems to align...
17614 Sophia Shapira
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Dec 3, 2007
3:22 am
Here is how I would put it together: 1> Sensory perception (Actually seeing and hearing, etcetera) 2> Mental perception (Knowing what the situation means to...
17615 jan.garrett
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Dec 3, 2007
4:22 am
I completely agree with your historical point about the ancient Stoics, that they did not regard the institution of slavery as unjust . . . to which we could...
17618 Leo Iermano
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Dec 3, 2007
10:49 am
Hi All I have just finished reading "Mugshots 2" which deals with crime in Australia. I don't recommend you add to your libraries, however I was interested in...
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