Grant writes: __________________ Certainly it [Grant's murder scene example, SM] doesn't involve _reflection_ or _deliberation_, but that's precisely what...
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Steve
marquis95960
Nov 1, 2007 4:40 pm
Jan writes: __________________ I have speculated in the past about the possible existence of another class of feelings, the proeupatheiai, that stand to the...
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jan.garrett@...
chrys1943
Nov 1, 2007 8:34 pm
Steve, On the grammar issues alone, this is my understanding: For feminine nouns ending in -a, the plural (in classical Greek) is -ai. "propatheia" and...
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gradivus_05
Nov 3, 2007 3:39 am
Hello, this is my first post, but I've been visiting this board for a while. I am very interested in Roman history, and this was how I became familiar with the...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 3, 2007 4:11 pm
Carl, There are several references by Seneca to Marcus Porcius Cato the Younger in the indexes to the Epistulae Morales (Moral Letters), published by Loeb...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 3, 2007 6:03 pm
I am not sure who is saying that all impressions convey value-seemings--perhaps it is a result of what Grant is actually saying and how Steve is interpreting...
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gradivus_05
Nov 3, 2007 7:00 pm
Hello Jan, As I said in my first post, there are a lot of Seneca's works that I haven't read. I have checked out volume two in the LCL series, but I didn't see...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 3, 2007 8:32 pm
Look for Cato, M. Porcius (the Younger) on p. 492 of the Seneca LCL volume II. "Uticensis" just means inhabitant of Utica, which is where Cato was when he...
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gradivus_05
Nov 3, 2007 8:59 pm
Oh, I know. I just write Cato Uticensis instead of Cato the Younger simply because I think it sounds cooler. I was wondering, what do you think about Cato as a...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Nov 3, 2007 9:34 pm
... Cato gets a brief mention in "On the Shortness of Life" and possibly " -- "Life is too short for emacs" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara,...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Nov 3, 2007 10:31 pm
This is slightly off topic, but since a number of people here like Martha Nussbaum's work, I thought I'd mention this review I stumbled upon:...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 3, 2007 11:32 pm
The sage is as rare as the Ethiopian phoenix. Cato was not quite that rare a bird. :-) Actually, I wouldn't be able to evaluate the Cato as a sage thesis apart...
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gradivus_05
Nov 4, 2007 1:03 am
I know this is all off-topic, but it certainly is interesting. Without a doubt, Caesar did not violate Roman law any more or less than previous men before him,...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 4, 2007 2:33 am
When you say, "should Cato do nothing to compromise his virtue?" this assumes he was a sage (according to the Stoics, only the sage is virtuous). As for not...
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Amos
vivepablo
Nov 4, 2007 1:13 pm
Jan: Interesting your comparison between the last days of the Roman Republic and 21st century U.S. politics. Politics in Chile are corrupt and cynical...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 4, 2007 1:45 pm
In the Oldfather translation (LCL edition), the first syllogism is not "The Living" but "The Liar" (probably could be translated "The Lying [Person]); the...
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vrussell001
Nov 4, 2007 1:52 pm
Hi Gich, Mine reads: '"What then do I need?" What you have not, -constancy, a mind conformable to Nature, and a freedom from perturbation. Patron or no patron,...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 4, 2007 1:59 pm
It seems to me that, while a certain degree of inequality in the distribution of material assets is probably inevitable given a division of labor and the use...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 4, 2007 2:03 pm
Interesting. In this translation the names of the syllogisms disappear entirely. They are definitely in the original text. This illustrates the variability of...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Nov 4, 2007 2:09 pm
... Politics has always been a pretty corrupt business. What I find interesting is that in some countries it has actually become rather less corrupt over the...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Nov 4, 2007 2:10 pm
... Chrysippus would ;-) ... Robin -- "Life is too short for emacs" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara, Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin ...
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Vicki Russell
vrussell001
Nov 4, 2007 2:16 pm
... Regards, Vicki "jan.garrett" <jan.garrett@...> wrote: Interesting. In this translation the names of the syllogisms disappear entirely. They are...
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Amos
vivepablo
Nov 4, 2007 3:31 pm
Jan: My comment was about corruption, not about concentration of wealth. Is there a necessary connection between concentration of wealth and corruption?...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 4, 2007 9:13 pm
I wouldn't say that concentration of wealth in the hands of the few (to the point of the disappearance of a large middle class) is the only sociological factor...
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Amos
vivepablo
Nov 4, 2007 9:32 pm
Jan: I basically agree with what you're saying now. However, just to show that I too can be contrarian, my father always used to say: vote for the rich...
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gradivus_05
Nov 5, 2007 2:59 am
Well, I must say that I too am not speaking for Stoicism or anybody else in the Forum. But I must disagree with the traditional view that only the sage is ...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Nov 5, 2007 4:02 am
Seneca's treatment of Cato as a sage is a bit odd, given that Cato fought Caesar to the bitter end (on the ground of Caesar's alleged--and perhaps...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Nov 5, 2007 7:11 am
... One difference between the two characters, as far as I can tell, is that Cato would never have dissembled for political reasons, and it is quite possible...
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Steve Marquis
marquis95960
Nov 5, 2007 7:51 pm
Jan writes: ______________ I am not sure who is saying that all impressions convey value- seemings--perhaps it is a result of what Grant is actually saying and...
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Taylor Maxwell Gray
tmaxwellgray
Nov 5, 2007 8:44 pm
Greetings all, This is a dynamic and thoughtful group and so I'd like to pose a question I've been giving some thought to: Which texts would you include in an...
