Grant writes: __________________ Certainly it [Grant's murder scene example, SM] doesn't involve _reflection_ or _deliberation_, but that's precisely what...
Jan writes: __________________ I have speculated in the past about the possible existence of another class of feelings, the proeupatheiai, that stand to the...
Steve, On the grammar issues alone, this is my understanding: For feminine nouns ending in -a, the plural (in classical Greek) is -ai. "propatheia" and...
Hello, this is my first post, but I've been visiting this board for a while. I am very interested in Roman history, and this was how I became familiar with the...
Carl, There are several references by Seneca to Marcus Porcius Cato the Younger in the indexes to the Epistulae Morales (Moral Letters), published by Loeb...
I am not sure who is saying that all impressions convey value-seemings--perhaps it is a result of what Grant is actually saying and how Steve is interpreting...
Hello Jan, As I said in my first post, there are a lot of Seneca's works that I haven't read. I have checked out volume two in the LCL series, but I didn't see...
Look for Cato, M. Porcius (the Younger) on p. 492 of the Seneca LCL volume II. "Uticensis" just means inhabitant of Utica, which is where Cato was when he...
Oh, I know. I just write Cato Uticensis instead of Cato the Younger simply because I think it sounds cooler. I was wondering, what do you think about Cato as a...
... Cato gets a brief mention in "On the Shortness of Life" and possibly " -- "Life is too short for emacs" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara,...
The sage is as rare as the Ethiopian phoenix. Cato was not quite that rare a bird. :-) Actually, I wouldn't be able to evaluate the Cato as a sage thesis apart...
I know this is all off-topic, but it certainly is interesting. Without a doubt, Caesar did not violate Roman law any more or less than previous men before him,...
When you say, "should Cato do nothing to compromise his virtue?" this assumes he was a sage (according to the Stoics, only the sage is virtuous). As for not...
Epictetus' Discourse 3.9 ... You have utensils of gold; but your discourse, your opinions, your assents, your movements, your desires are of earthen ware. But...
Jan: Interesting your comparison between the last days of the Roman Republic and 21st century U.S. politics. Politics in Chile are corrupt and cynical...
In the Oldfather translation (LCL edition), the first syllogism is not "The Living" but "The Liar" (probably could be translated "The Lying [Person]); the...
Hi Gich, Mine reads: '"What then do I need?" What you have not, -constancy, a mind conformable to Nature, and a freedom from perturbation. Patron or no patron,...
It seems to me that, while a certain degree of inequality in the distribution of material assets is probably inevitable given a division of labor and the use...
Interesting. In this translation the names of the syllogisms disappear entirely. They are definitely in the original text. This illustrates the variability of...
... Politics has always been a pretty corrupt business. What I find interesting is that in some countries it has actually become rather less corrupt over the...
... Chrysippus would ;-) ... Robin -- "Life is too short for emacs" Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara, Turkey http://www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin ...
Jan: My comment was about corruption, not about concentration of wealth. Is there a necessary connection between concentration of wealth and corruption?...
I wouldn't say that concentration of wealth in the hands of the few (to the point of the disappearance of a large middle class) is the only sociological factor...
Jan: I basically agree with what you're saying now. However, just to show that I too can be contrarian, my father always used to say: vote for the rich...
Well, I must say that I too am not speaking for Stoicism or anybody else in the Forum. But I must disagree with the traditional view that only the sage is ...
... One difference between the two characters, as far as I can tell, is that Cato would never have dissembled for political reasons, and it is quite possible...