Hi Amos! Thanks for that! I couldn't quite recall the words. Thanks for the Eliot too! He's essential reading. And as for, "And Did Those Feet . . ." – are...
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phrygianslave
Mar 1, 2007 2:07 pm
Hello Grant! You wrote: "Rights doctrine tells us that we own such things, we have a claim to them, we are entitled to them, and we have been injured whenever ...
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Dawn
darknesslight82
Mar 1, 2007 3:15 pm
How broad are you views and insites on religon?...
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phrygianslave
Mar 1, 2007 6:16 pm
Hello Dawn! That's a very broad question! Can you narrow it down a little please? Regards, Peter...
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Steve
marquis95960
Mar 1, 2007 6:32 pm
Robin writes: _________________ Surely the two [duties and rights, SM] are just different ways of looking at the same thing. The point is that you are in a...
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Steve
marquis95960
Mar 1, 2007 6:34 pm
Jan writes: _________________ 4. The LN in Stoicism commands us to regard life, health, material possessions, and the conduct of others as indifferent things....
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Steve
marquis95960
Mar 1, 2007 7:18 pm
Robin writes: _________________ That would be problematic [civic duties that purposely encourage implementation of the cardinal virtues, SM], since there may...
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phrygianslave
Mar 1, 2007 7:40 pm
Hi Jan! If you're really interested in pursuing the matter further it might be a good idea to check out what Vasari says in his, _Lives of the Artists_. All...
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 1, 2007 8:07 pm
Peter: No, I never sang "And Did Those Feet...". I just recommended it because I found it on the page after the first Blake poem in a poetry anthology a...
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phrygianslave
Mar 1, 2007 9:32 pm
Hello all! Continuing the current human rights debate it is interesting to note that Diogenes the Cynic on being asked "what was the most beautiful thing in...
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Gary C. Moore
gospode
Mar 2, 2007 12:15 am
Re: APPROPRIATE ACTIONS [ta kathekonta] Posted by: "S" Gary writes: ____________ _____ All the circumstances of all 'appropriate actions' is related explicitly...
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a_pythagorean
Mar 2, 2007 3:17 pm
Ricardo Salles, The Stoics on Determinism and Compatibilism. Burlington, VT: Ashgate, 2005. Pp. x, 132. ISBN 0-7546-3976-2. $79.95. Reviewed by Marcelo D....
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 3, 2007 12:02 am
Steve: The theme of developing character or virtue in youth, which you bring up, is one that interests me, having raised two children and currently being...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 3, 2007 6:42 pm
This isn't systematic, but I wanted to comment on Robin's idea that if you have a notion of duties, you have a notion of rights, and vice versa. I agree with...
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phrygianslave
Mar 3, 2007 9:22 pm
"Now no man can say that he has anything his own by a right of nature; but either by an ancient immemorial seizure, as those who first planted uninhabited...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 3, 2007 10:45 pm
There's a lesson here, about how translators can introduce modern ideas while trying to make a classical text sound familiar to us, and thereby to lessen the...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 3, 2007 11:56 pm
Aristotle occasionally refers to "natural virtue," which is distinct from moral or intellectual virtue, and refers to the greater propensity some young people...
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Amos
vivepablo
Mar 4, 2007 1:22 am
Jan: I think that Aristotle is right. Some children have a natural goodness, a will to make others happy, but that can easily degenerate into conformism,...
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Steve Marquis
marquis95960
Mar 4, 2007 4:37 am
Jan writes: ____________________ If the emphasis is on the moral agent, her virtue and smooth flow of life or happiness or whatever, then it's more natural to...
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phrygianslave
Mar 4, 2007 12:11 pm
Jan, Please Note: The translation I provided you with dates back to 1699, (sixteen ninety-nine)!!! It was made by one, Thomas Cockman. Regards, Peter ... ideas...
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phrygianslave
Mar 4, 2007 7:52 pm
Jan, (and all,) Further to my previous post in which I pointed out that Thomas Cockburn's translation dates back to 1699, i.e., getting on for approximately a...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 4, 2007 10:58 pm
Note, I did not say it was a contemporary translation. I said it introduced "modern ideas." The modern period is usually dated, at least in the history of...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 4, 2007 11:38 pm
Nobody can deny that Cicero is very much a defender of private property in his Offices (De Officiis), or rather I should say that he is very much opposed to...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Mar 5, 2007 12:21 am
I suspect that it's not a historical accident that moral or human rights are a comparatively late development in the history of ethics, or, as one might put...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Mar 5, 2007 3:53 pm
Peter: I will understand your position much better, and you perhaps may understand the puzzling refusal of Jan and myself [et al] to accept the thesis that you...
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murrell91910
Mar 5, 2007 8:22 pm
... Hi Dawn--actually that's a good question, one I would hope more conversant Stoics might try to answer. My own interest in Stoicism has been more oriented...
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phrygianslave
Mar 5, 2007 8:48 pm
Jan wrote: "Note, I did not say it was a contemporary translation. I said it introduced "modern ideas." The modern period is usually dated, at least in the...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Mar 5, 2007 9:02 pm
... Epictetus, in Ench. 31, says that true piety consists in believing that the gods arrange the universe for the best, and obeying their commands as a result....
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phrygianslave
Mar 5, 2007 10:56 pm
Grant, So, for human rights activists to be stationed by their General in a position where they get involved in a struggle to prevent their fellow humans from...
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mattomoran
Mar 5, 2007 11:11 pm
... This was a good article in the NY times on Sunday. (for an easily readable version, click 'print' and then it's all on 1 page). Darwin's God ...
