... is the ... why they ... account. ... say, but ... How does a panentheist view of God answer the "why" question differently than the scientific answer...
Hello All, The first thing that jumped out at me in this stream was that a critical element of science was being overlooked. Scientists interpret their...
psycherationis "As far as there being something non-physical that interacts with the physical, I don't see how a Stoic (equivalent in my mind to a materialist)...
Hello everybody. Thank-you for letting me join this group. I've joined because I'm reading Stoic texts and I'm interested in the New Stoa. However, I am not...
... Welcome. ... That's fine, but there are lots of others ways to participate, such as asking questions, describing alternative ways of looking at something,...
... Joe responds: If said quanitity is unknowable why think about it!! Saying that you don't like the interpretaton doesn't harm the validity of the ...
Hi, Jane. Stoicism and belief in God were peas to a pod in ancient times. That's not to say that they have to remain that way today, but the Stoics did...
... I see Stoicism as a method for dealing with my emotions, for living a more rational life. I don't see why one has to believe in God in order to be use...
Jane wrote: ______________ I am interested in the New Stoa because I see in it a possibility of a system of moral values and ethics which is in accordance with...
Thank-you. As I said I'm not interested in this debate. I'm sure your beliefs are held very sincerely and I would not want to interfere with your faith....
Hi Joe! "If said quanitity is unknowable why think about it!!" I refer you back to your own statement: "As far as there being something non-physical that...
Hello Peter, The arguement about that which is not a body being unable to interact with a body is from either Diogenes Laertius or Sextus Empiricus, or perhaps...
... How do you _know_ this? Are you sure you understand _everything_ about 'that which is immaterial'? Could it be that some things are simply beyond human...
... I certainly haven't heard the phrase before, but the system makes sense. The increase in concentration and introspective powers that zazen provides would...
... That's the way it looks on paper, but I sometimes suspect that in practice, Stoics (like many of us) chose their metaphysical beliefs to support their ...
... Well it's also possible that ulitmately the material is also beyond human understanding. I think it was Bohr who said "The universe is not only stranger...
... ancient ... today, but the ... beliefs. ... practice, ... support their ... qualities of the ... find people ... reason as ... framework ... budding ... ...
... Yes, I was referring to zazen. Since the term "zen" is a distant derivative of a term for "meditation school" - I figured zazen (or zen meditation) was the...
Hello, In my readings and contemplations of Stoicism I've found a bend toward what would be called walking meditation in Zazen. It is quite expanded from the ...
Hello, For those who either haven't read Diogenes Laertius in awhile or at all he gives the definition of earnestness as "a habit of refering presentations ...
The Stoa is a community dedicated to discussing Epictetus' Handbook and by extension the texts of Cicero, Seneca, Epictetus, Marus Aurelius and the other Stoic...
... Why not? Unless one adopts a question- begging assumption, I don't see how this claim can be supported. ... You're going too fast for me here. As I...
... My experience is that I need not worry about things that can only be grasped in abnormal states of consciousness, since there are more than enough things...
All: I sent this message some time ago, but I just learned that the IT guys at my university didn't inform us that a system crash had wiped away several days...
Hello Joe! 1) Christian fundamentalists take what the Bible says literally. "And the LORD God formed man _of_ the dust of the ground, and breathed into his...
Grant wrote: OK. "It's a law of nature that certain ... virtually no-one ... Joe responds: First, whose law of Nature?!!! Yes, if you allow that there is...
I would not consider myself a fundamentalist. I asked you for an arguement supporting your view point. It is a marked difference to request dialouge in order...
Members of the forum may be interested in this interview, in MP3 downloadable format, with a therapist who has many ideas in common with Stoic thought. ...
... Sorry, but if I see a hair, I just have to split it: "walking zazen" is a contradiction in terms! Robin -- Robin Turner IDMYO Bilkent Üniversitesi Ankara,...
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