Hi Pablo, Welcome aboard. I have only been member for about 6 months and find the forum stimulating and at times very academically minded. The learned members...
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leoiermano
Oct 1, 2006 10:34 am
Could anyone help with other sources of stoic writings apart from the usual suspects ( Epictetus, Marcus A,Seneca and Cicero). I suspect early christian...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Oct 1, 2006 11:45 am
When one gets to this point in his or her investigation of Stoicism, I think what you should do is acquire either of the following two anthologies, A. A. Long...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Oct 1, 2006 11:52 am
While composing the reply to Leo just sent, another thought occurred to me, which seemed to merit a separate post. Another source of knowledge about the Stoic,...
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mattomoran
Oct 1, 2006 4:59 pm
I found 2 versions, which one would you recommend, the 1st edition that is 500 pages instead of the 2nd edition which is 200? ...
You want vol. I of The Hellenistic Philosophers (about 500 pp), not vol. 2 (unless you want the corresponding Greek and Latin texts). Hellenistic Philosophy,...
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Leo Iermano
leoiermano
Oct 1, 2006 8:57 pm
Thanks Keith, As I have explained in previous emails I am a newcomer to stocism and I tend to sit and watch the academic discussions on this forum. I am quite...
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RW
kayzr77
Oct 3, 2006 2:31 am
... Stoicism, I think what you should do is acquire either of the following two anthologies, A. A. Long and D. N. Sedley, eds., The Hellenistic Philosophers,...
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Leo Iermano
leoiermano
Oct 3, 2006 7:40 am
Thanks Rob Is there any modern philosophers that are closest to stoic ideas, i.e Nietzke? Cheers Leo ... Stoicism, I think what you should do is acquire...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 3, 2006 5:48 pm
... Differentiating between reliable and unreliable sense data is little part of the scientific method. This is simply not something that scientists do to any...
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RW
kayzr77
Oct 3, 2006 6:16 pm
... i.e Nietzke? You can try David Hume, who wrote a very good piece on natural religions in the spirit of the ancient dialogues: ...
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Steven Hamilton
epictetusmn
Oct 3, 2006 6:49 pm
Rob, The URL's you give do not work. What specific books are you referring to?? ... http://www.amazon.com/Dialogues-Concerning-Natural-Religion- ... ...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 3, 2006 7:26 pm
... You miss my point. The Thomistic anti-masturbation argument may be bad teleology, and may be false. But it is perfectly comprehensible. It claims that...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Oct 3, 2006 9:36 pm
... I get your point now, but in the latter (non-God) case I think it would be stepping outside the boundary of morality. Even if the teleology is true (big...
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marquis95960
Oct 4, 2006 12:05 am
Steve earlier: __________________ A primary purpose of the scientific method is to differentiate between reliable and unreliable sense data … ...
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RW
kayzr77
Oct 4, 2006 1:00 am
... Thomas Paine's "Age of Reason," Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning," the Daodeching of Lao Tzu, David Hume's "Dialogues Concerning Natural...
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vivepablo
Oct 4, 2006 2:39 am
I would recommend Spinoza's Ethics. Spinoza was very influenced by the Stoics, although he felt that we have less control over our passions than the Stoics...
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RW
kayzr77
Oct 4, 2006 6:07 pm
There's also Philo of Alexandria. I'd forgotten about him. He might be closer to someone who's emerging from a Judeo-Christian background, but he has complex...
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jan.garrett
chrys1943
Oct 4, 2006 10:07 pm
There's Lawrence Becker's A New Stoicism. (I think Prof. Becker is still a member of the Forum.) I would also recommend Robert C. Solomon's book on The...
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RW
kayzr77
Oct 5, 2006 12:48 am
... still a member of the Forum.) Didn't this book take some of the ideas of classical Stoicism and do away with theism/minimalize its importance? I seem to...
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Robin Turner
selgusni
Oct 5, 2006 9:02 am
... Indeed. Rational Emotive Therapy was the original name, then they added the "behavior"; part. Ellis quotes Epictetus approvingly in several places, and the...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 5, 2006 8:57 pm
... I quite agree. Unlike some others who think that Science only seeks to 'save the data', I think Science seeks to understand reality. ... I agree with this...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 6, 2006 3:08 am
... Again, we see things from the opposite sides. If by 'no reason to prefer it' you mean 'no reason why it should maximally satisfy your contingent...
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jan.garrett@...
chrys1943
Oct 6, 2006 3:35 am
Becker tries to reconstruct Stoicism without the theism, that's right. If one has to have his Stoicism with a dash of theism, he will find Becker's version...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Oct 6, 2006 1:49 pm
Just to clarify: I use sadists, pedophiles, and rapists for most of my examples because: a) Almost everyone agrees that acting on such desires is wrong. b) It...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Oct 6, 2006 5:08 pm
... Grant wrote: Scientists almost always take for granted: 1) That they and other scientists have sensed things correctly. 2) That other scientists have...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Oct 6, 2006 5:17 pm
... Grant wrote: If what is good for me is the fulfillment of my desires, then what reason do I have to care what utilitarianism [of any sort] would recommend?...
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marquis95960
Oct 6, 2006 6:51 pm
Part 1 of 2 1) The Viability of Data Grant writes: __________________ A scientist reading an article in a journal will only extremely rarely attempt to repeat...
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marquis95960
Oct 6, 2006 6:55 pm
Part 2 of 2 3) When is Examination Required? Grant asks about the (possible) erroneous textbook example: ____________________ 1) What are we supposed to do...
