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13638 Gary Moore
gottlos752004 Offline Send Email
Sep 1, 2006
2:00 pm
To whoever: What is 'modal logic' in Stoicism and how does it operate in their system of thought? I have Long and Sedley if you can point out a good text for...
13639 jan.garrett
chrys1943 Offline Send Email
Sep 2, 2006
6:12 pm
Gary, Modal logic is the logic of terms like "it's necessary that . . . " and "it's possible that . . . " In the index to Long and Sedley (The Hellenistic...
13640 leaderbychoice Offline Send Email Sep 2, 2006
9:28 pm
I've been a member of this group for a few weeks now and I really have enjoyed reading. I have to say that most of the conversation is not necessarily over my...
13641 mattomoran Offline Send Email Sep 2, 2006
11:19 pm
Great writing Steve. I liked what you wrote about friendships. If ... A short version: If we attempt to change our actions, we'll be fighting our ...
13642 Gary Moore
gottlos752004 Offline Send Email
Sep 3, 2006
7:09 am
DearDoctor Garrett, Thank you! "jan.garrett" <jan.garrett@...> wrote: Gary, Modal logic is the logic of terms like "it's necessary that . . . " and...
13643 John
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Sep 3, 2006
12:57 pm
Hey Matt, Try this simple code: Always act as if your grandmother was watching you!...
13644 leaderbychoice Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2006
5:17 pm
... Hmmmm. How would that be of any good at all? Couldn't this fly directly in the face of virtuous action since your concern would be on your grandmother's...
13645 reb_el Offline Send Email Sep 3, 2006
11:24 pm
... to share a their 'code' or be willing to point me toward a somewhat succinct personal code used by other stoics." Welcome Matt, I like to go by the simple...
13646 Paul
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Sep 4, 2006
2:52 am
... wrote: ... their "code" or ... by ... Hello Matt, A basic moral "code" is to use the four cardinal virtues as reference points. That is, treat others...
13647 Fortunatus
tlfortunatus Offline Send Email
Sep 4, 2006
5:41 am
... If I remember correctly (which I very well may not), M Aurelius gives similar advice in the Meditations, suggesting that we should act at all times as if a...
13648 Robin Turner
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Sep 4, 2006
2:36 pm
... Hi Matt, I'd say "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law," but that would be seriously out of keeping with the tone of this list ;-) I don't...
13649 Paul Bryson
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Sep 4, 2006
3:47 pm
I'd say do nothing that you would not be willing to reveal. ~Paul Discourage litigation. Persuade your neighbors to compromise whenever you can. As a...
13650 leaderbychoice Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2006
6:27 pm
I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I think there's little doubt that living by the golden rule or cardinal virtues is the right direction. But, in the...
13651 marquis95960 Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2006
8:16 pm
Matt writes: ___________________ Reading Epictetus there is talk of having a "code". It's become clear to me that I need to create and strive to adhere to a...
13652 marquis95960 Offline Send Email Sep 4, 2006
8:20 pm
Matt writes: ___________________ If we attempt to change our actions, we'll be fighting our inclinations...rather we should train our inclinations...we do this...
13653 jan.garrett
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Sep 4, 2006
9:03 pm
Some rules are situationally valid; they apply to certain people in certain phases of their life--and very often they themselves are the best judge of what...
13654 leaderbychoice Offline Send Email Sep 5, 2006
1:03 am
Jan, I realize that my code/rules should be created by me and I am working on that. Not rules related to indifferents, of course. I realize that my ice cream...
13655 leaderbychoice Offline Send Email Sep 5, 2006
1:05 am
Steve, Thank you for your response. This is quite helpful Matt...
13656 reb_el Offline Send Email Sep 5, 2006
1:24 am
... surprisingly easy now to avoid eating ice cream." Not doing your part to continue the great Western waistline expansion? For shame. ;) Good move. I did...
13657 jan.garrett
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Sep 5, 2006
2:02 am
My understanding is that for the classical Stoics there is no shortcut; there are no rules the more or less mechanical following of which will get you to...
13658 Gary Moore
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Sep 5, 2006
10:16 am
PART 1 ON MARCUS AURELIUS’ RELATIVISM: Order in the Universe, the Importance of God or Gods and their Relation to the Goddess Nature, and the Necessity of...
13659 Leo Iermano
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Sep 5, 2006
11:32 am
Hi This may help Some Stoic Guidelines (Based on Epictetus) by Gordon L. Ziniewicz 1. The overall purpose or Summum Bonum or reason for living:...
13660 Keith Seddon
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Sep 5, 2006
3:10 pm
Hello Gary, Just quickly... <<<I have barely glanced at some other translations but ... if they have good points, please tell me.>>> Personally, I am a great...
13661 Robin Turner
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Sep 5, 2006
9:27 pm
... This is a nice summary. However, I've been thinking recently about the rather counter-intuitive Stoic definitions of "good" and "bad" (which I assume here...
13662 Robin Turner
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Sep 5, 2006
9:50 pm
... Very nice - succinct and to the point. Robin...
13663 jan.garrett
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Sep 5, 2006
10:55 pm
Robin, For what it's worth, I think our classical Stoic authors would have rejected the notion that we might easily go back and forth between sagacity and...
13664 jan.garrett
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Sep 5, 2006
11:17 pm
Gary, I am unconvinced that Marcus does not believe in the goodness of Divine Providence. It's true that he does not believe in Progress over Time. He is no...
13665 Keith Seddon
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Sep 6, 2006
12:37 am
Hello Rick, <<< 1. Am I doing this to deliberately harm others? Don't do it. 2. Am I doing this to satisfy a desire of mine, but it will likely harm others...
13666 Gary Moore
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Sep 6, 2006
10:22 am
ON MARCUS AURELIUS’ RELATIVISM Part 2 stoics@yahoogroups.com From: "jan.garrett" <jan.garrett@...> Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 18:16:15 -0500 Subject:...
13667 Keith Seddon
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Sep 6, 2006
12:14 pm
Hello Robin, <<< ... I am told the stoics played fast and loose with Greek ... >>> Where does this strange idea come from? <<<Stoic definitions of "good" and...
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