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12035
There isn't a "goal" of mediation. Enlightenment isn't a goal. ... denial ... eventually ... Basic ... the ... enlightened state, which is the *goal* of this...
don_r_morrison
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Mar 1, 2006
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12036
Enlightenment is the goal of the "Buddhist path", according to the buddhist teaching. If you are talking of not just any kind of New Age meditation, but of a...
Arkadi Choufrine (ach...
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Mar 1, 2006
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12037
Isn't the real issue that Buddhism and stoicism are very different views? Buddhism is based on a denial of the body and things of this world whereas stoicism...
Keen Mind
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Mar 2, 2006
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12038
The way you present Buddhism makes it appear almost like Platonism :>) Arkadi ... From: Keen Mind <keennotion@...> Date: Wednesday, March 1, 2006 9:40 pm...
Arkadi Choufrine (ach...
mrnkogan
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Mar 2, 2006
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12039
Perhaps, but Platonism and stoicism seem to be very differenct philosophies. Yet some view Buddhism and stoicism as similar, when they strike be as exremely...
Keen Mind
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Mar 2, 2006
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12040
... Can you clarify what you mean by idealism and realism here? I understand these as opposites in fields like international relations, but since you seem to...
robin
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Mar 2, 2006
2:42 pm
12041
... answers will probably be somewhat similar, differing only in technical details Do Taoists not kill any living beings, including insects etc., just as ...
Arkadi Choufrine
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Mar 2, 2006
3:02 pm
12042
... It's a difference of degree. Both Taoists and Buddhists support the idea of non-violence, but Buddhists take it further. Robin -- Internal Virus Database...
robin
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Mar 2, 2006
3:26 pm
12043
Steve, I've finally gotten around to giving your email the attention it is due. :) I think I inadvertantly answered most of it with my last one, but there are...
DT Strain
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Mar 2, 2006
3:47 pm
12044
... Yes I think that's a fair assessment of what I said. One might say, "our potential to make interventionist judgments in our passionate responses is always ...
DT Strain
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Mar 2, 2006
4:00 pm
12045
... All human cultures cultivate non-violence to *some* degree. Arkadi ... From: stoics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:stoics@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of robin ...
Arkadi Choufrine
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Mar 2, 2006
4:10 pm
12046
... At the risk of appearing passionate on a stoic list, let me prelude this by saying that I have dispassionately judged that the following phrase is a ...
DT Strain
dtstrain
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Mar 2, 2006
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12047
... Fair point, but not all emphasise it as a virtue. The Yanomami (sp?) are renowned for the way they manage to get violence into almost every social...
robin
selgusni
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Mar 2, 2006
6:05 pm
12048
What is and what is not a virtue is a matter of doctrine, not just of "what people do". BTW, non-violence for Buddhists is *not* a virtue in the Stoic sense...
Arkadi Choufrine
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Mar 2, 2006
6:50 pm
12049
Daniel wrote: ________________ There are simply too many gross misunderstandings about Buddhism here to address adequately. But please just know that...
Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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Mar 2, 2006
7:14 pm
12050
While I am sympathetic to Daniel's recent post about what Buddhism really is, I think we should bear in mind that there are many kinds of Buddhism. I once...
jan.garrett
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Mar 2, 2006
7:41 pm
12051
Aren't virtues in stoicism a means to liberation as well? Although they don't use the word 'liberation', the entire purpose of stoicism is such that our lives...
DT Strain
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Mar 2, 2006
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12052
Yes. And I should have mentioned what you point out about the cultural and historic elements that have been added into Buddhism and still practiced in various...
DT Strain
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Mar 2, 2006
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12053
... own reward. Yet, in Stoicism we *do* say this, whereas in Buddhism we do not. Arkadi _____ From: stoics@yahoogroups.com [mailto:stoics@yahoogroups.com] On...
Arkadi Choufrine
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Mar 2, 2006
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12054
Very true Jan, thanks. As I have just replied to Steve, I should have mentioned that there are various schools. I was focusing on the core teachings as taught...
DT Strain
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Mar 2, 2006
7:59 pm
12055
We only know that this applied to their warrior class. There may have been a whole population of vikings that disagreed with their view...just like there is a...
Tyger
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Mar 2, 2006
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12056
... That's quite possible. I remember some years back, archaeologists uncovered a remarkably complete Viking settlement near York, but failed to find a single...
robin
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Mar 2, 2006
9:54 pm
12057
It's almost a commonplace in ancient philosophy since Socrates that only the wise and virtuous person is free (See Plato, Republic IX, the comparison between...
jan.garrett
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Mar 2, 2006
11:28 pm
12058
Theravada Buddhism in practice is not free from superstition. Thai Buddhism, for instance, has some practices quite similar to Roman Catholicism, e.g., the...
--Michael
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Mar 2, 2006
11:41 pm
12059
I believe you asked ... I meant the terms in the ordinary sense, not any highly technical sense. A dictionary definition of "realism" is the practice of...
Keen Mind
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Mar 3, 2006
5:01 am
12060
DT sa ... on some transcendental world, thinking this one to be an illusion. This is completely erroneous and not at all what Buddhism says. I don't know that...
Keen Mind
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Mar 3, 2006
5:39 am
12061
You make and excellent point. In many ways, Buddhism and Stoicism are two very different tools with very similar uses. My post was really aimed at exploring...
Keen Mind
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Mar 3, 2006
5:58 am
12062
Yes indeed It is the same thing in Korea, the source of income is mainly money donated to the temples for rites for the dead and - especially mothers -...
John Laerum
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Mar 3, 2006
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12063
... Although I don't deny there are all sorts of people with various beliefs out there, including even whole traditions in other parts of the world; I have...
DT Strain
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Mar 3, 2006
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12064
On one of my visits to my local Buddhist temple, one of the lay volunteers told me that when they bow to a buddha statue or sing chants and other rituals, they...
DT Strain
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