... I've also seen Nietzsche's philosophy described as "hysterical stoicism", which although it looks like an oxymoron seems to encapsulate it rather nicely! I...
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robin
selgusni
Feb 1, 2006 10:10 am
... I think it's important when reading Epictetus (particularly the Discourses) to distinguish between things that are part of or implied by basic Stoic...
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D. Gregory Geis
gregorgeis
Feb 1, 2006 3:04 pm
Peter just off the top of my head... Nietzsche seldom mentions the Stoics other than passim, a fact which I find curious given his frequent mention of Epicurus...
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thedude6752000
Feb 1, 2006 5:07 pm
Update: I posted this at the IIDB here http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?t=152632 and I got some responses. One of the infidels there pointed out that the...
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thedude6752000
Feb 2, 2006 2:05 am
... implied by ... can ... on, ... makes ... Other ... On talking to others, this is what Simplicius seems to think of #33: The duties, owing to a man's self,...
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redkittyspaw
Feb 2, 2006 4:44 am
I've been chased by dogs a few times, we've somthing of a problemb with them here- they are 'owned' by folks who let them roam about or dont secure them behind...
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psycherationis
Feb 3, 2006 1:59 am
Hello All, I've had a lot of practice in this! I find myself disturbed whenever I hear W.(Bush) speak. Something that Seneca suggests works very well, and...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 4, 2006 2:46 am
Tough one. I would note these considerations... In favor of killing: 1) A wounded animal can be even more dangerous. 2) An animal that would attack humans can...
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Paul
pdlanagan
Feb 4, 2006 6:46 am
... Luckily i've ... Hello Red, The stoic take would be to act virtuously at all times; with courage, temperance, justice and wisdom. More practically, we must...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Feb 5, 2006 12:02 am
First, a piece of historical trivia . . . If one approached an ancient Stoic and the context of discussion was not clear, a mention of "the dog" might have...
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Jack Death
thedude6752000
Feb 5, 2006 6:08 am
I wonder what Musonius Rufus would think you told him Diogenes (the dog) had attacked a jogger by nipping at his heels, and the jogger had punted Diogenes 3...
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thedude6752000
Feb 5, 2006 6:12 am
I know that in the anciet world Stoicism was a missionary philosophy, and I think Stoicism is in many ways the answer to many of todays problem. But I just got...
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John Laerum
jlaerum
Feb 5, 2006 7:27 am
Hey dude. My take would be that Epictetus wants us to convince others about the soundness of our teaching by our own example not by preaching. There are a...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 5, 2006 10:43 pm
My wife and I visited a Buddhist temple today and learned of the Kalama Sutra. This is a doctrine where the Buddha instructs folks to question authority, even ...
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Jack Death
thedude6752000
Feb 5, 2006 11:20 pm
Yet Epictetus and Musonius Rufus used more than example to exhort others to virtue. Perphaps my Epictetus quote was merely for a specific situation? John...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Feb 5, 2006 11:47 pm
One reasonable way of interpreting the Stoic adage "follow nature" is to try to figure out the reality (nature) of things (which may not be what people around...
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Jack Death
thedude6752000
Feb 6, 2006 12:05 am
Here here. I hold an anthropomorphic but non-the-less atheistic conception of the kosmos, and in that I know I am not alone on this board in opposing E,...
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peter sullivan
peterbsullivan
Feb 6, 2006 5:47 am
... He's not calling Nietzsche an 'official Stoic' btw. He's citing both N. and Stoicism's origins in Heraclitus ideas of eternal flux, etc. Also the...
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Keith Seddon
khs10uk
Feb 6, 2006 11:36 am
Hello Jack, ... As I understand it, they exhort only those who come voluntarily into their lecture rooms, and who in just entering the room say in effect,...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 6, 2006 12:02 pm
My take as well John. Seems similar to the Buddhist approach. As a Buddhist nun said to me recently in her charming accent... ... [waving her hands in a...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 6, 2006 1:03 pm
Very interesting points Jan - thanks much. ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Feb 6, 2006 3:13 pm
... Another thing to mention is that while one can always explain Stoicism to others as appropriate, one cannot make them follow its teachings. It is a...
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Jay & Trish Lowndes
freedomphilo...
Feb 6, 2006 9:46 pm
Please understand why I wish to lodge a formal protest against our use of language such as "the entertainment- and quick-fix-seeking masses." The human race...
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Corinne Carter
corinne_m_ca...
Feb 7, 2006 3:11 am
Hi everyone, I've been lurking on this list for a couple of weeks now, and I've been meaning to introduce myself formally. By way of introduction, here's the...
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peter sullivan
peterbsullivan
Feb 7, 2006 3:45 am
Hi Cory.. your mention of Pantheism..has me wondering. Is Stoicism truly 'Pantheist'..? And I do realize there are different kinds of pantheism..there's...
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Jack Death
thedude6752000
Feb 7, 2006 3:52 am
Wow. this isn't quite what I had in mind. I was talking more about if there was a contradiction between what Epictetus said and how he acted, perphaps if his...
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Jack Death
thedude6752000
Feb 7, 2006 3:53 am
I don't have much time at the moment, but welcome to the board ;). Corinne Carter <cory-carter@...> wrote: Hi everyone, I've been lurking on this...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 7, 2006 12:39 pm
Welcome Cory! Sounds like your situation is very similar to mine. I come from Humanism (and still am), but it's very big on epistemology and social values, but...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 7, 2006 12:46 pm
Peter, I don't think the very concept of a "super"natural existed when Stoicism developed. Their sense of an "intelligence out there", even for the Stoics with...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Feb 7, 2006 12:51 pm
Wasn't Stoicism discussed in the Stoa (marketplace)? I know the typical excuse given is that they couldn't afford a building, but they also could have gone to ...
