Didn't Musonius Rufus go out to preach at the armies of Vespasian and a usurper who who going out to war? He was a very much in a peace supporter, so wouldn't...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 2, 2005 2:37 am
Thanks for this Paul - a very interesting article! I noticed a very Stoic-like portion... "Objects may be somewhat ambiguous, but events are thoroughly...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 2, 2005 9:59 pm
I've been reading a book on Buddhism, and I noticed something interesting about its relationship to the passions, compared to the Stoic approach to the ...
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Marcus Allen
marcusnigel
Dec 3, 2005 8:44 pm
I continue to be fascinated by the overlap, or seeming overlap, of Stoic and Buddhist ideas. So I appreciate your post about connecting the two. However,...
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Marcus Allen
marcusnigel
Dec 3, 2005 9:04 pm
I've often wondered if the Stoic ideal of the Sage, is what Buddhism would call the Buddha, one who reached enlightenment. So Buddhism would have an example...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Dec 3, 2005 10:33 pm
What if the image some Buddhists have of the Buddha being a perfectly enlightened or sagelike being is largely a product of his later disciples' imagination,...
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psycherationis
Dec 4, 2005 1:56 am
I've pondered the similarities that exist within Eastern and Western philosophy since I took a seminar on Plato several years ago and realized that There is a...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 4, 2005 4:21 am
I'm not sure what Jan is getting at with the references to Zeno, since Zeno is not (as far as I know) considered to be a Sage - this because the Sage is a...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 4, 2005 4:39 am
I posted this same question on an internet philosophy forum. Here was the exchange... ... I feel you might be misinterpreting Buddhism when one talks about...
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W Endo
whaldener
Dec 4, 2005 5:20 am
Greetings, In my opinion, although very similar, I would consider the taoist philosophy to be much closer related to the stoic philosophy than buddhism. ...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 4, 2005 2:11 pm
Yes I would definitely agree with this. The similarities I've seen between Taoism and Stoicism are striking. I would note, however, that as for me, my point...
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Paul
pdlanagan
Dec 5, 2005 1:39 am
... Hello DT, Yes - I thought the article very pertinent. There is a website somewhere, I haven't got the link at the moment, which claims that Shakespeare was...
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Adam Ophir Shapira
red_vorlon
Dec 5, 2005 3:07 am
... Interresting. It was a mere week ago that if someone had asked me what the difference was between Stoicism and Buddhism, I would have said, "Buddhism is...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Dec 5, 2005 4:08 am
The links are available at The Stoic Place. They're in the Links section (first item under Miscellaneous) and also in the Historical Materials section....
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Dec 5, 2005 4:09 am
You're right that Zeno is not considered a sage. None of the Stoic writers whose texts we have in substantial quantity ever claims to be a sage and each of the...
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Piotr Jedrzejak
piotrjedrzejak
Dec 5, 2005 11:14 pm
hello everyone. a few quick remarks from me, and some questions too. my name's piotr and i've posted here previously, then i left and now i'm back, and the...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 5, 2005 11:47 pm
Actually, you might be interested in one Buddhist's (or presumably a Buddhist-enthusiast forum user's) response to my query... "You make passion sound like a...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 6, 2005 12:41 am
... Definitely, and I can say that I am not at all "fed up" with such questions (and I doubt others are either), so please ask! I'm just a beginning learner ...
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Paul
pdlanagan
Dec 6, 2005 2:11 am
Greetings. I came across an ebook called "A GUIDE TO STOICISM" by St. George Stock. I don't have the link handy, but a google search should turn it up. I found...
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Arkadi Choufrine
mrnkogan
Dec 6, 2005 2:17 pm
My impression is that you base your presentation of Buddhism on one particular brand of it, namely, Zen. Arkadi _____ From: stoics@yahoogroups.com...
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Nicholas J. Sarwark
nsarwark
Dec 6, 2005 5:37 pm
Dear All, There is a blog being published by one who calls himself "oudeis oudamou," entitled "Fragments of the New Stoa" that takes a critical look at some...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 6, 2005 7:40 pm
You're probably right, but it is unwittingly so since I still have much to learn about the particulars of the various brands of Buddhism. :) ... ...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Dec 6, 2005 8:20 pm
... I think that to the degree that I do not live up to what Stoicism recommends, I have failed morally and rationally. I would like to say that I have no...
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Grant Sterling
fccmoose
Dec 6, 2005 8:32 pm
... I think the blog demonstrates a perverse unwillingness to consider what the text is saying, surprising for someone who has obviously spent some time with...
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Doc454
slamdragon
Dec 6, 2005 9:02 pm
I have been studying Stoicism and Buddhism seriously for the past two years and agree with you about the similarities and overlap of the two systems of ...
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Jan E Garrett
chrys1943
Dec 7, 2005 4:12 am
Dear Dude, Stoics are sometimes accused of lacking a sense of humor. After thinking a bit about this post, I began to wonder if you were pulling our legs. On ...
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piotrjedrzejak
Dec 7, 2005 11:23 am
hello again everyone. thanks for your responses, dt and grant. i see your drifts but i'm afraid i cannot really agree with either of you, though there's hardly...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 7, 2005 1:11 pm
Agreed Doc. This is a most fascinating concept - the thought of forming a cohesive practice that seeks to make use of the best aspects of both Stoicism and ...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 7, 2005 1:24 pm
But it seems to me that there is no "outside" by modern standards of political democratic philosophy. In other words, the people are today considered a branch...
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DT Strain
dtstrain
Dec 7, 2005 1:44 pm
Hello Piotr, Would you prefer a philosophy that tells you that you *can* achieve perfection? Let's back up. I know of no philosophy that tells its user that...
