In reply to Keith: Regarding Bruno Bauer's book, CHRISTUS UND DIE CAESAREN translated into ... Keith, thanks for asking about this exciting new find. Here's...
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Kevin McGrane
kevinmcgrane@xxxxx.xxxx
Aug 2, 1999 12:29 am
All: Been quite busy and can only jump on the net once or twice a week. Scanned many of the items on the forum. It was pointed out that Jesus did not borrow...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 2, 1999 3:09 am
For those who have requested more examples from Bruno Bauer regarding the priority of Seneca in the historical development of New Testament literature, here's...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 2, 1999 3:44 am
... This is a very valid argument, Jan, and I thank you for reminding us of it. We must always be wary of the Ego claiming to be superior to its forefathers...
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Jan Edward Garrett
jgarrett@xxx.xxxxxxxx...
Aug 2, 1999 4:20 am
... I am quite sympathetic with his first two criticisms. Bauer's book seems interesting, and it is a good thing that it has been translated, but it must be...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 2, 1999 4:26 am
Dear Stoic List, The discussion I am enjoying with so many intelligent folks about Bruno Bauer has prompted me to forward to the Stoic List a post I made to...
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Marcus Prometheus Dec...
fresco@xx.xxx
Aug 2, 1999 6:56 pm
... To Mr. Paur Trejo Referring to your answer to the message posted by Mr. Jan Garrett ... Most respectfully from Marcus Prometheus: If the principle of...
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MurrellB@xxx.xxx
Aug 3, 1999 1:29 am
Paul Trejo wrote: <<It is certainly debatable whether the principle of entropy applies to the entire Cosmos of Galaxies, where new stars are being born every...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 3, 1999 4:47 am
... I think many writers who speak of this topic distinguish between entropy in open systems and entropy in closed systems. It is debatable if the Cosmos is...
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HappyStoic@...
Aug 3, 1999 12:46 pm
The way I understand the negative entropy principle is that the more complicated an organism is, the more disruption it causes. A bull creates much more...
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MurrellB@xxx.xxx
Aug 3, 1999 3:04 pm
Paul mentioned: <<It is debatable if the Cosmos is open or closed. It is simply early to say with certainty, and it may well wind up being a metaphysical...
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Lynn D Dewees
LYNNDEWEES@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 3, 1999 4:10 pm
... From: <HappyStoic@...> ... of ... In _Full House : The Spread of Excellence from Plato to Darwin _, Stephen Jay Gould explores some of these ideas of...
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Paul Cousoulis
paulcsouls@xxxxxxxx.x...
Aug 4, 1999 12:26 am
The second law of thermodynamics is the one which prevents the creation of a continual motion machine. Yet just as it does not stop my car from moving forward...
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SDmtwi@xxx.xxx
Aug 4, 1999 4:17 am
First, let me say that I am very new to this list. Therefore, I have not seen any previous discussion here, and I may touch ground that has already been...
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CYNTHANO@xxx.xxx
Aug 4, 1999 6:47 am
Fellow Stoics & Universalists I am a quietist by nature. Since I was a lad it's been pretty clear to me that the more things change the more they stay the...
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Lynn D Dewees
LYNNDEWEES@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 4, 1999 2:58 pm
In the ongoing discussion of progress, I think it would be prudent to separate factual progress (small p) -- I'm living better now than my parents or...
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Bertram Rothschild
bertr@xxxx.xxxx
Aug 4, 1999 5:19 pm
... Paul, nicely said. I would further add that if there is no progress then there is little justification to try to improve things. Bert...
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Pmbaysd@xxx.xxx
Aug 5, 1999 2:35 am
Stoics-- I am almost certainly missing something here regarding this question of progress (or, if you prefer, Progress). The condition of the world has...
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Steve Marquis
smarquis@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 5, 1999 3:26 am
Well said Peter. Here is a simple model a friend and I have developed: Spiritual Intellectual Emotional Physical Picture three dimensional spheres, with...
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Jan Edward Garrett
jgarrett@xxx.xxxxxxxx...
Aug 5, 1999 4:47 am
... I certainly agree with Lynn that this "endpoint" thesis of progress is wrong. And I agree also that there are achievements that are worth celebrating. But...
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CYNTHANO@xxx.xxx
Aug 5, 1999 6:37 am
Fellows, So sorry about my botched transmission yesterday. I wanted to throw in my two cents regarding this key issue. Obviously, as has been pointed out,...
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HappyStoic@xxx.xxx
Aug 5, 1999 9:53 am
In a message dated 8/3/1999 7:47:05 PM Central Daylight Time, paulcsouls@... writes: << To deny the existence of progress is not just the...
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Jan Edward Garrett
jgarrett@xxx.xxxxxxxx...
Aug 5, 1999 12:48 pm
Paul C. wrote ... Followed by Bert: Paul, nicely said. I would further add that if there is no progress then there is little justification to try to improve...
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bertr
bertr@xxxx.xxxx
Aug 5, 1999 2:28 pm
... The ... Does it follow that individual progress leads to general progress? I have survived a number of fatal illnesses because before me individuals...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 6, 1999 3:28 am
... I think Progress is real and my criterion is not Technology so much as it is the Abolition of Slavery on a World Scale from 1807 to 1970. The probable...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 6, 1999 3:42 am
... Hegel's view is that Reason is God. This is also thew view of Seneca and Marcus Aurelius. Oddly, to many moderns this sounds like Irrationalism. A...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 6, 1999 4:29 am
... In the End? You think there will be an End where there was no Beginning? You may cite the Big Bang, but there was something *before* the Big Bang in order...
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Paul Trejo
pet@xxxxxx.xxxx
Aug 6, 1999 6:07 am
Dear Stoics, Let's briefly examine Seneca's stylistic structure in a text of his about spiritual transformation: "I feel, my dear Lucilius, that I am being not...
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HappyStoic@xxx.xxx
Aug 6, 1999 1:10 pm
In a message dated 8/5/1999 11:29:15 PM Central Daylight Time, pet@... writes: << n the End? You think there will be an End where there was no...
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Paul Cousoulis
paulcsouls@xxxxxxxx.x...
Aug 6, 1999 5:18 pm
I don't understand the point of all this progress bashing. If progress is not guarenteed or irreversible, so what? Our ancestors have made progress and we...
