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10006 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
1:05 pm
Welcome to the list Bill! DT Strain www.dtstrainphilosophy.blogspot.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from...
10007 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
1:09 pm
... Much agreed. DT Strain www.dtstrainphilosophy.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail...
10008 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
1:19 pm
Gich, Let me take a stab at communicating what I think Keith and Nigel are saying (please forgive if I myself am misunderstanding as well)... The rock is alive...
10009 JWMeritt@...
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Aug 1, 2005
1:41 pm
... I prefer 'sentient' (check sentient quotient' to 'alive' (since I'm not so sure what 'alive' means, and I'm personally even fuzzer on the concept of 'God'....
10010 Nigel Glassborow
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Aug 1, 2005
2:24 pm
Hi Bill, Welcome. I too at times question what we can do to deal with some of the ills of the world. I must admit I am holding judgement regards the killing...
10011 Nigel Glassborow
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Aug 1, 2005
2:24 pm
You obviously have a view of existence contrary to Stoic thought and this is preventing you seeing the Stoic perspective of the nature of the Cosmos. You say,...
10012 Nigel Glassborow
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Aug 1, 2005
2:25 pm
I like the humour, but must clear up a detail of definition. When I talk of the Wisdom of the Ages I refer to the wisdom common to the many schools of...
10013 Jan E Garrett
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Aug 1, 2005
3:07 pm
Bill and others, You may be interested in this Stoic-influenced dialogue on "The Last Attachment" I wrote almost exactly three years ago, between the ...
10014 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
3:41 pm
... But the exact nature of that deity was not common amongst them and there was some variance. ... Which opinions? Perhaps you could make us an official list...
10015 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
3:42 pm
Yes, if we use the term "sentient" that may be a way to dileniate what Gich is thinking of from what Nigel and Keith seem to be referencing to. But I'm not...
10017 James W. Meritt
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Aug 1, 2005
6:01 pm
See http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.philosophy.debate/browse_threa d/thread/b72c04489a919dc9/5d5e679b3f3baa39?lnk=st&q=JWMeritt+sentient+ ...
10018 James W. Meritt
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Aug 1, 2005
6:03 pm
... http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.philosophy.debate/browse_threa ... d/thread/b72c04489a919dc9/5d5e679b3f3baa39?lnk=st&q=JWMeritt+sentient+ ... The...
10019 S Rhodes
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Aug 1, 2005
7:34 pm
On 8/1/05 10:05 AM, "Jan E Garrett" <jangarrett@...> wrote: ...we are entitled to wonder whether they are sages who have successfully eliminated the...
10020 Jan E Garrett
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Aug 1, 2005
8:17 pm
The short answer is yes. A longer answer adds nuances. p. 208 Inwood and Gerson, eds., Hellenistic Philosophy: Introductory Readings (2nd ed.) This is from the...
10021 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
8:27 pm
... http://mcel.pacificu.edu/aspac/papers/scholars/baker/baker.html ... Malcolm, I read this article and it was incredibly interesting. It seems that the...
10022 Malcolm Schosha
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Aug 1, 2005
10:00 pm
Re: Is the sage free from the passions? ... .............. Jan, This quote is very interesting. Do you think that it might be correct to regard "final bad...
10025 Malcolm Schosha
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Aug 1, 2005
10:44 pm
DT, You have picked up many of the points in the article that I thought important. But this article has also prompted me to reflect that what I think I...
10026 DT Strain
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Aug 1, 2005
11:13 pm
I just had this funny image of ancient Stoicism as this tinker-toy looking object sitting in the middle of the room that is this list. Some of us enter and...
10028 Malcolm Schosha
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Aug 2, 2005
10:52 am
Interesting image. But "messing" with Stoicism does nothing to change it. Its like having a Model-T Ford, no matter how many changes you make to the version...
10029 DT Strain
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Aug 2, 2005
12:43 pm
... I would differ with you on that. I think we very much can form the equivalent of theorems in philosophy, and indeed, this is the usual manner in which...
10030 DT Strain
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Aug 2, 2005
12:50 pm
Unless all the "messers" get together and create a general trend and all the former Model-Ts start to be changed such that they become impossible to find with ...
10031 Malcolm Schosha
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Aug 2, 2005
1:16 pm
Daniel wrote: "When several people start to mess with something, there is the fear that those who like the original will be left as a minority" Daniel, As you...
10032 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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Aug 2, 2005
1:55 pm
Gich wrote, _____________ I'm trying to understand the role of a 'theory of truth' in philosophy or the role of any 'theorem' for that matter. It seems to me...
10033 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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Aug 2, 2005
2:52 pm
Malcolm and Daniel, It sounds like both of you are distinguishing between the form and the essence of Stoicism. If we understand the purpose (rational...
10034 DT Strain
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Aug 2, 2005
3:00 pm
I completely agree. ... DT Strain www.dtstrainphilosophy.blogspot.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo!...
10035 DT Strain
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Aug 2, 2005
3:02 pm
Sounds like you're one of those tinkerers Steve :) But I concur on both the notion of attachment being opposed to Stoic principle, and distinguishing between ...
10036 Steve & Oxsana Marquis
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Aug 2, 2005
3:21 pm
Nigel wrote; ___________ Wow!! I didn't expect such a serious and lengthy response - it was just a little bit of teasing. I don't actually disagree with much...
10037 DT Strain
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Aug 2, 2005
3:35 pm
... I agree with this notion that there is a difference between discussing the whys and the hows. I also like the how-talk. But I'm a little confused at the...
10038 Jan E Garrett
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Aug 2, 2005
4:01 pm
Two of the four examples of "final bad things" given are passions (pathe) that come into existence as the result of incorrect judgment, hence incorrect assent....
10039 Jan E Garrett
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Aug 2, 2005
4:02 pm
I want to make a number of points briefly. First (and this is semi-official, in my capacity as co-moderator), I would like to discourage people from including...
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