Hey Keith. ... This is the type of statement I find almost incomprehensible. Could you enlarge on this? "...alive in the same way as..." What does this mean?...
Hey Nigel! OK - forget the rock. You write "... the laws of nature that the intelligent movement has set in place ...", so I'm assuming that by "the...
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Gich, Let me take a stab at communicating what I think Keith and Nigel are saying (please forgive if I myself am misunderstanding as well)... The rock is alive...
... I prefer 'sentient' (check sentient quotient' to 'alive' (since I'm not so sure what 'alive' means, and I'm personally even fuzzer on the concept of 'God'....
Hi Bill, Welcome. I too at times question what we can do to deal with some of the ills of the world. I must admit I am holding judgement regards the killing...
You obviously have a view of existence contrary to Stoic thought and this is preventing you seeing the Stoic perspective of the nature of the Cosmos. You say,...
I like the humour, but must clear up a detail of definition. When I talk of the Wisdom of the Ages I refer to the wisdom common to the many schools of...
Bill and others, You may be interested in this Stoic-influenced dialogue on "The Last Attachment" I wrote almost exactly three years ago, between the ...
... But the exact nature of that deity was not common amongst them and there was some variance. ... Which opinions? Perhaps you could make us an official list...
Yes, if we use the term "sentient" that may be a way to dileniate what Gich is thinking of from what Nigel and Keith seem to be referencing to. But I'm not...
Hey Keith! Let's start again. I was quoting Scruton but tried to condense the material to save space. This may have been a mistake. In the chapter entitled...
On 8/1/05 10:05 AM, "Jan E Garrett" <jangarrett@...> wrote: ...we are entitled to wonder whether they are sages who have successfully eliminated the...
The short answer is yes. A longer answer adds nuances. p. 208 Inwood and Gerson, eds., Hellenistic Philosophy: Introductory Readings (2nd ed.) This is from the...
... http://mcel.pacificu.edu/aspac/papers/scholars/baker/baker.html ... Malcolm, I read this article and it was incredibly interesting. It seems that the...
Re: Is the sage free from the passions? ... .............. Jan, This quote is very interesting. Do you think that it might be correct to regard "final bad...
... Point taken. see my revision sent to Keith. In an attempt to avoid quoting whole sections of Scruton's book verbatim, I tried to summarize his view of...
Hey Nigel! I'm a mathematician and mechanical engineer. I don't have a 'belief system'. I discovered this group about 4 months ago (about the same time as I...
DT, You have picked up many of the points in the article that I thought important. But this article has also prompted me to reflect that what I think I...
I just had this funny image of ancient Stoicism as this tinker-toy looking object sitting in the middle of the room that is this list. Some of us enter and...
"Aristotle observed that you should not attempt to impose more exactitude on a study than the matter permits." - Scruton The recent discussion on theories of...
Interesting image. But "messing" with Stoicism does nothing to change it. Its like having a Model-T Ford, no matter how many changes you make to the version...
... I would differ with you on that. I think we very much can form the equivalent of theorems in philosophy, and indeed, this is the usual manner in which...
Unless all the "messers" get together and create a general trend and all the former Model-Ts start to be changed such that they become impossible to find with ...
Daniel wrote: "When several people start to mess with something, there is the fear that those who like the original will be left as a minority" Daniel, As you...
Gich wrote, _____________ I'm trying to understand the role of a 'theory of truth' in philosophy or the role of any 'theorem' for that matter. It seems to me...
Malcolm and Daniel, It sounds like both of you are distinguishing between the form and the essence of Stoicism. If we understand the purpose (rational...
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