Hi Tyger, I'd forgotten I was even a member of this group. I wouldn't mind getting into it, as long as it doesn't get too academic. I'm really only interested...
Oops. Same here. When shall we start? Michael ... too academic. I'm really only interested in how it gets applied personally,in our lives today. ... some of...
I agree. I came across this quote the other day. Perhaps it could serve as a trigger for an expanded conversation? "The happiness of those who want to be...
Ditto! I am a member of another group and they make my head spin with their philolophical theory. I am not a philosopher, just someone trying to lead a better...
I would think - and this is personal opinion - that a free act is one which does not enslave me in any way. It would be an act done for its own sake and not...
Sounds like traditional wisdom - tried and true. Ah, yes. Freedom. Always a challenging concept. Happiness as well. Marcus contrasts the free with those that...
Yeah, theory can do that. I've found it's very difficult to follow discussions of theory (or anything in depth) on lists if one doesn't already have a solid...
Yes, I agree. But I like your second sentence better than the first. The first puts the cart before the horse. That is, the act would have been a result of the...
Don't you think that it is perpetual? If I perform an act from my enslavement, it will deepen my enslavement? Consider this: If you are a servant in a culture...
Replies below. ... It would probably reinforce the enslavement, though I'm not comfortable with that choice of words. ... If you are a servant in a culture...
... I would think that we are...by choice...or by the lack of it. Enslavement is from the mind, not from outside circumstances...at least that is how I...
Or they've carried "apatheia" (sp?) to an extreme. ... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the...
Hi, Not really scared or apathetic. To be honest I just lost interest in the enslavement discussion because it seemed way too far removed from real life. For...
Hello Bruce, ... Now I suppose if she could only find the time, browsing through Epictetus might give her a whole new outlook on life, that is if the local...
... the enslavement discussion because it seemed way too far removed from real life. ... As I said in a previous post, that's not a term I feel comfortable ...
Oops. I'm getting behind. That's what happens whe I mix all the Stoic list messages into one folder. Replies below. ... it better, but I think we always have a...
Actually, you are mixing spiritual thoughts with political thoughts. I was never referring to political enslavement, which is very very real, not only in 3rd...
Keith's book arrived yesterday. Most impressive. Obviously the result of a _lot_ of work. I'll get around to commenting on it in time. Not the kind of text one...
I was watching "Star Trek" recently (insert joke here) and was reminded of what attracted me to stoicism. Stoicism shows that it is possible to live a life...
... Fascinating... ;> As someone who enthusiastically made sure he missed almost no episodes whatsoever of ST:TNG and to this day sometimes has to catch...
I too am a trekkie and was always intrigued with the philosophies of ST, although I am more into TOS. I read quite a few of the ST novels that were written...
... Resulting in a formalized decision method of 'MINIMAX REGRET' (minimize the maximum regret, where regret is the difference between the individual outcome...
Hello quantum_self, ... control one's emotions, ideally supressing all emotional responses in deference to logical reasoning and decision making?<<< I suppose...
I think a mature, modern stoic should be able to decide for him/herself what constitutes an "indifferent", and what to attach emotions to. One could, for...
I'm doing a bit of reading on a few books I have (yeah Keith- yours on Epi is in there) and am wondering what other specific recommendations others may have...
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