I am looking for someone that would like to get to know each other. If you would
like to know me more, please check myspace here:
      http://rally0009.googlepages.com/passion.htm

Love breeds love, fear breeds fear, surely then we should just think
about love.

(My apologies if it seems im flooding the board!)

Sir George Trevelyan & Edward Matchett `Twelve Seats at the Round
Table' Zodiac Development Exercise

Taurus

Undifferentiated Receptivity

Purpose of exercise:  Learning to put all of life's experiences to
more positive and meaningful use.

`Little Jack Horner
Sat in a corner,
Eating his Christmas pie.
He put in his thumb
And pulled out a plum,
And said, What a good boy am I'

Jack Horner seems a little overpleased with himself, but nothing of
significance can be achieved without collecting and valuing the
fruits of the past, and making them secure for further use.  It is
particularly important that the highlights of one's experiences and
attainments become the stepping stones to new levels of endeavour and
achievement.

Reflect on your whole range of life experiences and attainments and
choose twenty or so moments from this whole pageant of life, when you
were conscious of a greater richness of content, a higher level or
quality of insight and/or attainment than at other times.  Hopefully
certain of these moments will be associated with actual personal
achievements, but it is neither necessary nor desirable that all of
them should be.

Discriminate very carefully, replacing some potential candidates with
others until you possess a mental snap-shot album of twenty items
that you believe to be especially important.  In making your final
selection take care that these memories are not all of one kind.
They should be a balanced feast of the fruits of life.

Having made your selection dwell on them long and often.  Write down
your thoughts and feelings about these matters and keep extending the
depth of detail and the intimacy of observation.  Do not concern
yourself with how this material is to enter into new creations that
you will produce.  Simply select your fruit and let it find it's own
way into the `Christmas pudding'.

Whenever you decide to repeat this exercise, make a determined effort
to locate examples and aspects of your work and experiences where
some new `high' has been savoured, especially where this is in an
altogether new direction.  But do not then neglect the earlier
treasures.  Simply process these further until you gain yet further
insights concerning them, and a renewed sense of their importance and
value.  Always take care to continue the processing until there is a
clear knowledge of what you are valuing.

Taurus's contribution to the Round Table-

Intelligent Openness, to self, to other people, the total problem
situation and whole range of life-experiences to find help, energy
and inspiration for the task in hand.  No experience is too
insignificant and no realm too vast, exalted or obscure to be
obtained in the work which this knight has to perform.

***

*******No, I'm a Scorpio----4 planets in Scorpio and 3 in Cancer, with
Aquarius rising. Those 3 signs account for almost all my planets. I have
only Pluto in Leo, as everyone for 20 years did.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

>
>It is wonderful how people enter our lives for a reason :) You are a
>Leo if I recall rightly Dr. Starman - a mighty fine sign indeed.  I
>have no aspects or planets in my Capricorn in the 11th house.  It is
>said, sometimes, its the sign which has no planets in or aspects made
>to which need looking at.
>

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From: "rally0125" <rally0125@...>
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] looking for someone special
>Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:44:21 -0000
>
>I am looking for someone that would like to get to know each other. If you
>would like to know me more, please check myspace here:
>      http://rally0009.googlepages....


******* Actually, since you are a robot, we have no wish to know you better.
We have to deal with enough Ahrimannic beings daily. So you have now been
cast back into the outer darkness, doomed to hear endless reruns of Monty
Python's "Spam" through all eternity.


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can join when Sena asked me to be moderator. I have no idea what happened in
your case. But I figure an occasional bit of spam is a small price to pay
for the group being open.

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>From: "Stephen Hale" <sardisian01@...>
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] Re: Handsome and Cool Bikers looking for fun!
>Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 03:36:51 -0000
>
>I'd like to suggest going back to approving memberships on this list.
>I know that I once submitted a request for approval and it was denied
>by Doctor Starman, or maybe it was Mr. Senafernando, apparently for no
>good reason other than seasoned experience.  In any event, it was
>turned down after 14 days.  I came back after two years because Sheila
>Pickerel is my friend.
>
>Steve Hale

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In 1989, as my peers were going off to college, I was pulling a
Forester travel trailer up to Yelm, WA to become an initiate in JZ's
University of Sophistry.

The objective was enlightenment---as is every true hippys' ultimate
goal.  But instead of gaining any soulful revelation or far out
cosmic truths, at JZs university I earned what is the equivalent of a
Bachelor's degree in Ramthinian double speak and pseudo history, with
a minor in quack science.

Mind you, these aren't degrees you hang in your office. To the
contrary, they're something you shake your head over before reaching
for a handful of your own hair.

My best guess now is that JZ fabricated the whole Ramtha character
from scratch---even Ramtha's name.  If you go to google maps you'll
find a little cowtown in the Middle East, right at the Jordanian
border with Syria, in the heart of the Arabic-Islamic world, called
Ramtha.  Could it be?  Is it possible?  Maybe JZ fabricated Ramtha's
name by. . . pointing her finger at the map?  Follow the link below
and you be the judge.

http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=Ramtha%2C%
20Jordan

But here is where she stole his character---possibly.  Look at the
odd similarities between the Ramtha mythos and the actual life of the
Prophet Mohammed, the founder of Islam. Both were illiterate. Both
were orphaned at an early age. Both were warriors. Both conquered 2/3
of the known world "by fire and sword."  Both retreated from the
world, Ramtha to a mountain top, Mohammed to a cave in a mountain,
and spent their time in meditation and reflection before their
profound revelations set them ablaze with cosmic purpose.

When JZ tapped into the Ramtha mythos she was entering into the flow
of thought streaming out of Arabism---not Indian thought, as you
would expect.  Ramtha claims that he is the great god Ram from the
Hindu religion and that his teachings were the foundation of Hindu
thought.  That's an awful big pill to swallow.  Even if you believe
Ramtha is an ascended master channeling through JZ, you cannot ignore
the lack of Indian expression-forms and, conversely, the plethora of
Arabic elements in the Ramtha mythos:  the Arabian horses, the
concubines, the slaves, the Middle Eastern diet and cuisine, the
clothing, the styles of warfare, etc.

The whole feel to the Ramtha mythos is Arabic: i.e. the extensive, un-
going warfare during his life time; the severe methods of capital
punishment, like feeding heads to turtles; the killing of all
children over ten, as Ramtha's army did when invading a nation.  I
could go on and on listing the tortures, the cruelties and the
decadences committed by Ramtha's army during his life time.  Yet that
would belabor the point.

Gnosticism itself is Arabic!  Wikipedia calls Gnoticism "an outgrowth
of ancient mystical traditions in Asia, especially Iran." The spirit
and soul of Gnosticism rose up out of the rich Manichean tradition
that flourished in the Middle East. Therefore it was no surprise when
JZ re-named RSE: The American Gnostic School.

On many occasions Ramtha talked about there being Arabian horses in
his life time, 30,000 year ago.  Read the history of Arabian horses
and you'll see that they're a hallmark of Arabic breeding practices---
not Post Atlantean, Hindu-Indian culture. According to Ramtha lore,
the horse he used in his life was a steed named Shimiradin, which
happened to reincarnate in our present era, as an Arabian, and is
owned by JZ Knight.  Call JZ for stud fees---not me.

Ramtha also talked about harems and satraps, concubines and slaves,
all institutions that are uniquely characteristic of ancient Arabic
culture. The eunuchs, which Ramtha says guarded over harems, are also
Arabic. Wikipedia says:  "The earliest records for intentional
castration to produce eunuchs are from the Sumerian cities of Lagash
in the 21st century BC."

Taking all these elements into consideration, we must assume then
that Ramtha is an Arab myth shoddily constructed by an amateur with
little to no education in world history.

--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...> wrote:

*******No, I'm a Scorpio----4 planets in Scorpio and 3 in Cancer, with
Aquarius rising. Those 3 signs account for almost all my planets. I
have only Pluto in Leo, as everyone for 20 years did.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com


It is wonderful how people enter our lives for a reason :) You are a
Leo if I recall rightly Dr. Starman - a mighty fine sign indeed.  I
have no aspects or planets in my Capricorn in the 11th house.  It is
said, sometimes, its the sign which has no planets in or aspects made
to which need looking at.

~~~

Scorpio okay!  That's quite a line up :)  Scorpio 'The Light of Day',
Cancer 'The Light within the form', Aquarius 'The Light that shines on
Earth across the Sea', Leo 'The Light of the Soul' (Capricorn
being 'The Light of Initiation').

Scorpio, water & Capricorn, earth blending nicely.

I'm the generation of Pluto in Virgo :)

My regards
Caryn

--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
wrote:
>
> From: "rally0125" <rally0125@...>
> >Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
> >To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [steiner] looking for someone special
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:44:21 -0000
> >
> >I am looking for someone that would like to get to know each
other. If you
> >would like to know me more, please check myspace here:
> >      http://rally0009.googlepages....
>
>
> ******* Actually, since you are a robot, we have no wish to know
you better.
> We have to deal with enough Ahrimannic beings daily. So you have
now been
> cast back into the outer darkness, doomed to hear endless reruns of
Monty
> Python's "Spam" through all eternity.
>
>
> Starman
>
> www.DrStarman.com


:) unless you make a good cup of tea!

Personally haven't heard of JZ Knight before but seems as always with
these groups it is everything but the Word of Christ.  Matthew I most
probably would have done the same thing at that age thinking nothing
but the best of intentions.  My thoughts are; all experience gone
through is learning especially the experience of choice. This is most
probably why we go through these experiences while we are young so by
the time we start maturing we see them for what they are and realize
the importance how precious `head space' is.

2 Peter 1:10
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling
and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall.

Ancient Babylon was the cradle of astrology or rather true astronomy
at that time before the troubles started.  It is my thought this
ancient centre of astrology wisdom was directly post-Atlantis and
from here spread into the world.  (Rudolf Steiner's `The polarities
in evolution : East and West is interesting to read in this regard)

References to astrology are also found in the Bible. for example;
Revelation 12:1  `And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a
woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her
head a crown of twelve stars: 2: `and she being with child cried,
travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered'.

As to the other Eastern culture going on's .. harlems, eunuchs etc
what can I really say except my top line and RS in 'the polarities of
evolution ..' talking about the Christ Impulse.

My thoughts on the subject.
Caryn

Karen have added you to her favorite list, check Karen's profile here:
http://karenpassion0114.googlepages.com/bikerchicks.htm

Mathew,

I live about 30 miles away from Yelm, and so know quite well the
rise into infamy of JZ Knight and her Ramtha persona.  It was
revealed a few years ago that she was a fraud, yet it didn't seem to
stop the flood of pathetic victims and their trek to her little
mecca here in the Pacific Northwest.  She used to go up to Mount
Rainier and practice her Ramtha charade.  But you see, when it comes
to following an iconic being of distinctly luciferic orientation, or
pursuing the more difficult path of thinking about the subjects that
spiritual science elucidates, who do you think the little sheep are
going to follow first?  It's a matter of 'instant gratification'
rather than hard work and effort.

I studied spiritual science in the very time frame that JZ Knight
and Ramtha gained prominence, and knew all the more that my path was
a relatively solitary one as I watched the trek to Yelm.  I knew
that no celebrities were going to come knocking at my door.  Shirley
MacLaine would have fallen asleep listening to my discourse on
spiritual matters, craving instead for the entertainment provided by
an enlightened being of the past; a thirty thousand year old
Egyptian warrior named Ramtha.

As Don King would say: Only In America.

Steve

ps- did you know that the word, 'america' is a combination of the
words acme and formica?



--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
>
> In 1989, as my peers were going off to college, I was pulling a
> Forester travel trailer up to Yelm, WA to become an initiate in
JZ's
> University of Sophistry.
>
> The objective was enlightenment---as is every true hippys'
ultimate
> goal.  But instead of gaining any soulful revelation or far out
> cosmic truths, at JZs university I earned what is the equivalent
of a
> Bachelor's degree in Ramthinian double speak and pseudo history,
with
> a minor in quack science.
>
> Mind you, these aren't degrees you hang in your office. To the
> contrary, they're something you shake your head over before
reaching
> for a handful of your own hair.
>
> My best guess now is that JZ fabricated the whole Ramtha character
> from scratch---even Ramtha's name.  If you go to google maps
you'll
> find a little cowtown in the Middle East, right at the Jordanian
> border with Syria, in the heart of the Arabic-Islamic world,
called
> Ramtha.  Could it be?  Is it possible?  Maybe JZ fabricated
Ramtha's
> name by. . . pointing her finger at the map?  Follow the link
below
> and you be the judge.
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&hl=en&tab=wl&q=Ramtha%
2C%
> 20Jordan
>
> But here is where she stole his character---possibly.  Look at the
> odd similarities between the Ramtha mythos and the actual life of
the
> Prophet Mohammed, the founder of Islam. Both were illiterate. Both
> were orphaned at an early age. Both were warriors. Both conquered
2/3
> of the known world "by fire and sword."  Both retreated from the
> world, Ramtha to a mountain top, Mohammed to a cave in a mountain,
> and spent their time in meditation and reflection before their
> profound revelations set them ablaze with cosmic purpose.
>
> When JZ tapped into the Ramtha mythos she was entering into the
flow
> of thought streaming out of Arabism---not Indian thought, as you
> would expect.  Ramtha claims that he is the great god Ram from the
> Hindu religion and that his teachings were the foundation of Hindu
> thought.  That's an awful big pill to swallow.  Even if you
believe
> Ramtha is an ascended master channeling through JZ, you cannot
ignore
> the lack of Indian expression-forms and, conversely, the plethora
of
> Arabic elements in the Ramtha mythos:  the Arabian horses, the
> concubines, the slaves, the Middle Eastern diet and cuisine, the
> clothing, the styles of warfare, etc.
>
> The whole feel to the Ramtha mythos is Arabic: i.e. the extensive,
un-
> going warfare during his life time; the severe methods of capital
> punishment, like feeding heads to turtles; the killing of all
> children over ten, as Ramtha's army did when invading a nation.  I
> could go on and on listing the tortures, the cruelties and the
> decadences committed by Ramtha's army during his life time.  Yet
that
> would belabor the point.
>
> Gnosticism itself is Arabic!  Wikipedia calls Gnoticism "an
outgrowth
> of ancient mystical traditions in Asia, especially Iran." The
spirit
> and soul of Gnosticism rose up out of the rich Manichean tradition
> that flourished in the Middle East. Therefore it was no surprise
when
> JZ re-named RSE: The American Gnostic School.
>
> On many occasions Ramtha talked about there being Arabian horses
in
> his life time, 30,000 year ago.  Read the history of Arabian
horses
> and you'll see that they're a hallmark of Arabic breeding
practices---
> not Post Atlantean, Hindu-Indian culture. According to Ramtha
lore,
> the horse he used in his life was a steed named Shimiradin, which
> happened to reincarnate in our present era, as an Arabian, and is
> owned by JZ Knight.  Call JZ for stud fees---not me.
>
> Ramtha also talked about harems and satraps, concubines and
slaves,
> all institutions that are uniquely characteristic of ancient
Arabic
> culture. The eunuchs, which Ramtha says guarded over harems, are
also
> Arabic. Wikipedia says:  "The earliest records for intentional
> castration to produce eunuchs are from the Sumerian cities of
Lagash
> in the 21st century BC."
>
> Taking all these elements into consideration, we must assume then
> that Ramtha is an Arab myth shoddily constructed by an amateur
with
> little to no education in world history.
>

Sounds good to me. but membership used to require saying something
about yourself, which is also a good idea, even though my request
lapsed into the ether.  Biker spam seems to be popular here, but I
admit to looking at the pics, and it is getting very provocative.
But rally on, I say with a grin.

Steve
--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
wrote:
>
> *******Gee, I've never turned anyone down for admission. I set it
so anyone
> can join when Sena asked me to be moderator. I have no idea what
happened in
> your case. But I figure an occasional bit of spam is a small price
to pay
> for the group being open.
>
> Starman
>
> www.DrStarman.com
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Stephen Hale" <sardisian01@...>
> >Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
> >To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [steiner] Re: Handsome and Cool Bikers looking for fun!
> >Date: Fri, 04 May 2007 03:36:51 -0000
> >
> >I'd like to suggest going back to approving memberships on this
list.
> >I know that I once submitted a request for approval and it was
denied
> >by Doctor Starman, or maybe it was Mr. Senafernando, apparently
for no
> >good reason other than seasoned experience.  In any event, it was
> >turned down after 14 days.  I came back after two years because
Sheila
> >Pickerel is my friend.
> >
> >Steve Hale
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>

It was
> revealed a few years ago that she was a fraud....


What do you mean?  What happened a few years ago that revealed she was
a fraud?

.. and the American flag symbolizes Aquarius :)  Aquarius
representing democracy in its truest form; the spirit of humanity and
love.

I think with organizations such as JZ Knights is first vanity and
second the need to feel in control.  Both being a common human trait
shown in many levels.

I would say the need to feel in control stems from the thought – in
order to understand myself and my interaction with the people in my
environment, I need to control it.  And this leads to holding on to
everything so tightly.  The ex-apartheid regime in my country is an
example of this need to control.

The need to feel in control must be very exhausting for mind, body
and spirit in that it blocks the true flow of spiritual
communications.

For this reason Master Jesus tells us `Thy Will be done Father and
not mine'.

Master Jesus and Teacher Rudolf Steiner also told us `Know thyself'
and when we look at this together with `Father, Thy Will be done' we
see a marvelous working together with the spirit of Truth.

Getting back to the human trait of wanting to feel in control in a
situation we might find oppressive or goes against our reasoning;
instead of projecting the thought (basically) I hate you (the common
defense mechanisim) which in turns fuels further hate - it makes for
better communication to think I love you for what you are and I
project love towards you.  With this embracing the situation with
love one will see the stress taken out of the situation and a start
towards understanding one another based on love.  If the one in the
situation still projects hate (still trying to control) here Master
Jesus taught `turn the other cheek' and still project love towards
the person in pray.

This is basic psychology and not so much to do with JZ Knights
situation however, the attitude of wanting to feel in control cannot
be healthy without asking for `Father, Thy Will be done' and with
this our astral body our star body our angel within is not blocked as
well as the Hierarchies and discarnate people who want to help us.

Not through channeling our own vanities but waiting upon Christ in
love so we might say `Ye, my Father worketh here'.

~~~
Just what i've been thinking recently
Caryn

>I think with organizations such as JZ Knights is first vanity and
>second the need to feel in control.  Both being a common human trait
>shown in many levels.
>
>I would say the need to feel in control stems from the thought – in
>order to understand myself and my interaction with the people in my
>environment, I need to control it.  And this leads to holding on to
>everything so tightly.  The ex-apartheid regime in my country is an
>example of this need to control.
>
>The need to feel in control must be very exhausting for mind, body
>and spirit in that it blocks the true flow of spiritual communications.
>
>For this reason Master Jesus tells us `Thy Will be done Father and not
>mine'.
>
>Master Jesus and Teacher Rudolf Steiner also told us `Know thyself'
>and when we look at this together with `Father, Thy Will be done' we
>see a marvelous working together with the spirit of Truth.
>
>Getting back to the human trait of wanting to feel in control in a
>situation we might find oppressive or goes against our reasoning;
>instead of projecting the thought (basically) I hate you (the common
>defense mechanisim) which in turns fuels further hate - it makes for
>better communication to think I love you for what you are and I
>project love towards you.  With this embracing the situation with
>love one will see the stress taken out of the situation and a start
>towards understanding one another based on love.  If the one in the
>situation still projects hate (still trying to control) here Master
>Jesus taught `turn the other cheek' and still project love towards
>the person in pray.
>
>This is basic psychology and not so much to do with JZ Knights
>situation however, the attitude of wanting to feel in control cannot
>be healthy without asking for `Father, Thy Will be done' and with
>this our astral body our star body our angel within is not blocked as
>well as the Hierarchies and discarnate people who want to help us.
>
>Not through channeling our own vanities but waiting upon Christ in
>love so we might say `Ye, my Father worketh here'.
>
>~~~
>Just what i've been thinking recently
>Caryn


*******I've known a few phony "channelers" here in Virginia Beach----the
Cayce HQ draws them like a magnet---- and in fact, EVERY person l've met
that claims to "channel" this or that being has turned out to be a phony.
This incudes the phony messages from "the Brothers" channelled by
Theosophists from C.W. Leadbeater on down, and more recently by the fake
from Austalia online here who claims to be an anthroposophist.

    It's made me reflect on why. I've come to two conclusions: first, every
such alleged "partial possession" is by a personality fragment of the
person, an imaginary personality which they give false life to; second, that
it's a subconscious game to make people pay attention to what you say. See,
if I say 'I think this or that', every single person can debate me because
I'm stating my opinion and they can say, 'Well, I have a different opinion'.
But if I put it into someone else's mouth, I can stand off to the side and
say I'm just passing on info from some other source. Then, if I say it comes
from a higher source than my everyday conscious mind, I can demand it be
accepted uncritically as Truth from On High.

    Knight was nicknamed Zebra because of her intolerant "black and white"
mind long before she started this pompous fake channeling, so clearly this
phony persona was evoked so she could make pronouncements that cannot be
challenged or questioned. It's a neat trick for those who are predisposed to
swallow it---it's what wrecked the Theopsophical Society a centrury ago.


    The truth is that information TRULY from a higher source is integrated
with the daily mind, flows through it and uses what it has---- a state where
it becomes another separate being is not needed, and in fact is a sign that
lower subconscious forces are at work. Information from such sources must
always be suspect: truth is mixed with half-truths and no truth at all.

    Edgar Cayce in trance, for instance, made innumerable goofs, like all his
earth changes predictions which failed, which is why his organization came
to so little. This weekend they are actually having the phony "prophet"
Gordon Michael Scallion at a conference, to give you an idea how low they've
sunk, and that pernicious Ramtha propaganda film "What the Bleep Do We Know"
was a popular craze around the Cayce community in the past few years, with
its "experts" quoted onscreen who are all actually sycophants of JZ Knight
though not named as such.

    Meanwhile, the real thing, Rudolf Steiner, goes on being unknown, and
conscious clairvoyance through initiation unheard of. And none of these
Luciferic egotists would dream of serving the Risen Christ, which they do
not even experience.



>
>.. and the American flag symbolizes Aquarius :)  Aquarius
>representing democracy in its truest form; the spirit of humanity and
>love.

*******Do you know that the flag's red and white "stripes" represent the
bloody lash-marks of the whip---- symbolic of the suffering men must go
through to attain the wisdom of the stars, as in the Revolutionary War
leading to our freedom? Not a message that would sell well to the
self-indulgent patrons of Luciferic "new age" channelers who just want to
find out how to have better sex and more money and stuff for Me, Me, Me. But
those in possession by Lucifer cannot see him. Like Steiner quoted an old
German saying, the common man would not recognize the Devil if he had him by
the throat.

Starman

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--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
>
> It was
> > revealed a few years ago that she was a fraud....
>
>
> What do you mean?  What happened a few years ago that revealed she
was
> a fraud?

She was seen up at Mount Rainier practicing her Ramtha act.

** Another good post, Starman.  I took snippets of it and "pasted"
them at my Ramtha discussion forum where former members get together
and talk about RSE, etc.

** Lately the school is losing its predominantly American student
body as more and more Americans are dropping out of the school, while
enrollment from European nations is up; it's to the point where JZ
Knight is opening a permanent facility in Europe.  The New Age
culture is especially receptive to JZ's environmental dooms day
predictions, which she's stressing very, very strongly these days.
The END is 2012, JZ says.  Consequently everyone in Euro-RSE is
frightened out of their minds thinking that humanity is about to
enter into a state of barbaric primitivism brought upon by immense
ecological disasters.

** The troubling thing is that nobody challenges these or any other
of JZ's wild prophesies.  The local newspapers such as The Olympian
and the Tacoma New Tribune have become mouthpieces for RSE, and not
only the local outlets, but the entire Puget Sound media as
well.

This is the biggest change that I've seen since I was a member of RSE
in the early nineties.  When I was involved in the "school", the
media didn't write promotional pieces for JZ; they weren't tools,
bought and sold by second rate finaglers.  JZ has wormed her way into
the media establishment by pretending she's a civic minded
progressive, but more importantly by donating large sums of money to
politicians in the area.  That's how easy it is to buy out newspapers
today.  Grease a few palms, swear your allegiance to the Golden Calf,
and you've got a multi-billion dollar industry under your belt,
writing promotional ads for your latest money making scheme.

**  Keri Brenner of The Olympian is the author of the latest promo
piece.  The link is below.

http://www.theolympian.com/101/story/104095.html

>** Another good post, Starman.  I took snippets of it and "pasted"
>them at my Ramtha discussion forum where former members get together
>and talk about RSE, etc.
>
>** Lately the school is losing its predominantly American student
>body as more and more Americans are dropping out of the school, while
>enrollment from European nations is up; it's to the point where JZ
>Knight is opening a permanent facility in Europe.  The New Age
>culture is especially receptive to JZ's environmental dooms day
>predictions, which she's stressing very, very strongly these days.
>The END is 2012, JZ says.  Consequently everyone in Euro-RSE is
>frightened out of their minds thinking that humanity is about to
>enter into a state of barbaric primitivism brought upon by immense
>ecological disasters...
>

******* Twenty years ago the snake-oil salesmen peddling gloom and doom were
warning the end of the world [or something as scary as that] was right
around the corner at the turn of the century, stealing the date 1998 from
Edgar Cayce. Cayce was wrong, nothing happened, but the evil fakes preying
on peoples' vague feelings of guilt and uneasiness have hurtled right on
over that failure, like the wacko who predicted the end of the world in 1840
and then again in 1841 (Miller, I believe, was his name--- juggled numbers
from the Book of Daniel to get his dates).

    So some poor scholars inaccurately reported that the Mayan calendar
'ends' in 2012 (it doesn't) and that supplied them with the latest fake
date.

     I did lectures, scheduled long in advance, in Jan. 1999 titled "Why
Cayce's predictions failed in 1998" ----then a lecture Why Nothing Happened
in 1999 again in Jan. 2000, to answer the True Believers who would avoid
admitting he was wrong by saying "maybe he was a year off"--- then again in
Jan. 2001---- again in Jan. 2002---- didn't matter, no one noticed. I'll
have to schedule one for Jan. 2013 called Why Nothing Happened in 2012.

    Why? Old Testament prophecy was from before the Christ came. Nothing can
be predicted that way anymore. The world is different, the human soul is
different. This is so vitally important that failed prophecy is critical to
examine, not just sweep it under the rug. Prediction of the future is a very
different thing now.





>** The troubling thing is that nobody challenges these or any other
>of JZ's wild prophesies.  The local newspapers such as The Olympian
>and the Tacoma New Tribune have become mouthpieces for RSE, and not
>only the local outlets, but the entire Puget Sound media as
>well.
>
>This is the biggest change that I've seen since I was a member of RSE
>in the early nineties.  When I was involved in the "school", the
>media didn't write promotional pieces for JZ; they weren't tools,
>bought and sold by second rate finaglers.  JZ has wormed her way into
>the media establishment by pretending she's a civic minded
>progressive, but more importantly by donating large sums of money to
>politicians in the area.  That's how easy it is to buy out newspapers
>today.  Grease a few palms, swear your allegiance to the Golden Calf,
>and you've got a multi-billion dollar industry under your belt,
>writing promotional ads for your latest money making scheme.
>
>**  Keri Brenner of The Olympian is the author of the latest promo
>piece.  The link is below.
>
>http://www.theolympian.com/101/story/104095.html
>
>
*******Well, that's Washington and Oregon out there on the Left Coast.
Agrees with their Hate-the-US, Hate-Capitalism ideology. The old German
saying about the Greens still holds good----"The green tree has Red roots!"
Marxism was yet another false prophet-system: Marx said all the workers'
wages would keep going down till they revolted, but instead they kept going
up; so Lenin had to come along and excuse that by saying, Well the
industrialized countries must be keeping the workers' standards rising by
draining the exploited Third World to do it (that's why "Marxism" had to be
amended into "Marxism-Leninism", because the failures required attaching
Lenin's "imperialism" theory)---- but then the colonies all were freed by
the European powers and workers' wages in the capitalist world still kept
going up. So the anti-freedom ideologues who wanted Marxism as their road to
power seized on the hysterical ecology movement of the '60's and '70s to
say, Well, OK, our economic predictions all failed but that's because the
evil capitalist machine is winning by raping the earth and will destroy us
all. Never mind that actually it's the advanced capitalist countries who
take steps to protect the environment, while the worst pollution disasters
were (surprise!) in socialist countries. Nope, like the Millerites in 1841,
it's let go of one failed prediction and pick up another.

    But look what eventually happened to Elizabeth Clare Prophet of the
California Wacko Summit Lighthouse with her hare-brained forecasts of atomic
war with Russia in the '80s. She built a big 'survivalist' compound out by
Livingston, Montana---a location also swiped from Cayce's 'earth changes'
predictions, by the way--- and ladled out lots of their dough to mollify the
locals; but after the Soviet Union collapsed and all her predictions failed,
they noticed that her giant underground oil tank was leaking and polluting
the groundwater, and attitudes changed pretty quick. Empires like these are
built on sand. Figs can't come from thistles, and nothing good can come from
a foundation of falsehoods. Lucifer will always fall back to earth.

Dr. Starman

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I can tell you from experience that Washington and Oregon don't
think that way.  You sound like an americanist neo-con who found a
way to conveniently vent from a newspaper article on JZ Knight.
Well, what about those Virginia Beach frauds?  Do they have the
effect of driving the saner folks toward someone like Rudy Giuliani
for President?  You see, it all balances out in the end, whether
it's now or 2012.  You seem to take very decidely high leaps and
bounds with your political history, Starman.  And all you really
know is what you read in a book or newspaper that appeals to you.

Have you ever lived in the west?

Steve

--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
wrote:
>
> >** Another good post, Starman.  I took snippets of it and "pasted"
> >them at my Ramtha discussion forum where former members get
together
> >and talk about RSE, etc.
> >
> >** Lately the school is losing its predominantly American student
> >body as more and more Americans are dropping out of the school,
while
> >enrollment from European nations is up; it's to the point where JZ
> >Knight is opening a permanent facility in Europe.  The New Age
> >culture is especially receptive to JZ's environmental dooms day
> >predictions, which she's stressing very, very strongly these days.
> >The END is 2012, JZ says.  Consequently everyone in Euro-RSE is
> >frightened out of their minds thinking that humanity is about to
> >enter into a state of barbaric primitivism brought upon by immense
> >ecological disasters...
> >
>
> ******* Twenty years ago the snake-oil salesmen peddling gloom and
doom were
> warning the end of the world [or something as scary as that] was
right
> around the corner at the turn of the century, stealing the date
1998 from
> Edgar Cayce. Cayce was wrong, nothing happened, but the evil fakes
preying
> on peoples' vague feelings of guilt and uneasiness have hurtled
right on
> over that failure, like the wacko who predicted the end of the
world in 1840
> and then again in 1841 (Miller, I believe, was his name--- juggled
numbers
> from the Book of Daniel to get his dates).
>
>    So some poor scholars inaccurately reported that the Mayan
calendar
> 'ends' in 2012 (it doesn't) and that supplied them with the latest
fake
> date.
>
>     I did lectures, scheduled long in advance, in Jan. 1999
titled "Why
> Cayce's predictions failed in 1998" ----then a lecture Why Nothing
Happened
> in 1999 again in Jan. 2000, to answer the True Believers who would
avoid
> admitting he was wrong by saying "maybe he was a year off"--- then
again in
> Jan. 2001---- again in Jan. 2002---- didn't matter, no one
noticed. I'll
> have to schedule one for Jan. 2013 called Why Nothing Happened in
2012.
>
>    Why? Old Testament prophecy was from before the Christ came.
Nothing can
> be predicted that way anymore. The world is different, the human
soul is
> different. This is so vitally important that failed prophecy is
critical to
> examine, not just sweep it under the rug. Prediction of the future
is a very
> different thing now.
>
>
>
>
>
> >** The troubling thing is that nobody challenges these or any
other
> >of JZ's wild prophesies.  The local newspapers such as The
Olympian
> >and the Tacoma New Tribune have become mouthpieces for RSE, and
not
> >only the local outlets, but the entire Puget Sound media as
> >well.
> >
> >This is the biggest change that I've seen since I was a member of
RSE
> >in the early nineties.  When I was involved in the "school", the
> >media didn't write promotional pieces for JZ; they weren't tools,
> >bought and sold by second rate finaglers.  JZ has wormed her way
into
> >the media establishment by pretending she's a civic minded
> >progressive, but more importantly by donating large sums of money
to
> >politicians in the area.  That's how easy it is to buy out
newspapers
> >today.  Grease a few palms, swear your allegiance to the Golden
Calf,
> >and you've got a multi-billion dollar industry under your belt,
> >writing promotional ads for your latest money making scheme.
> >
> >**  Keri Brenner of The Olympian is the author of the latest promo
> >piece.  The link is below.
> >
> >http://www.theolympian.com/101/story/104095.html
> >
> >
> *******Well, that's Washington and Oregon out there on the Left
Coast.
> Agrees with their Hate-the-US, Hate-Capitalism ideology. The old
German
> saying about the Greens still holds good----"The green tree has
Red roots!"
> Marxism was yet another false prophet-system: Marx said all the
workers'
> wages would keep going down till they revolted, but instead they
kept going
> up; so Lenin had to come along and excuse that by saying, Well the
> industrialized countries must be keeping the workers' standards
rising by
> draining the exploited Third World to do it (that's why "Marxism"
had to be
> amended into "Marxism-Leninism", because the failures required
attaching
> Lenin's "imperialism" theory)---- but then the colonies all were
freed by
> the European powers and workers' wages in the capitalist world
still kept
> going up. So the anti-freedom ideologues who wanted Marxism as
their road to
> power seized on the hysterical ecology movement of the '60's
and '70s to
> say, Well, OK, our economic predictions all failed but that's
because the
> evil capitalist machine is winning by raping the earth and will
destroy us
> all. Never mind that actually it's the advanced capitalist
countries who
> take steps to protect the environment, while the worst pollution
disasters
> were (surprise!) in socialist countries. Nope, like the Millerites
in 1841,
> it's let go of one failed prediction and pick up another.
>
>    But look what eventually happened to Elizabeth Clare Prophet of
the
> California Wacko Summit Lighthouse with her hare-brained forecasts
of atomic
> war with Russia in the '80s. She built a big 'survivalist'
compound out by
> Livingston, Montana---a location also swiped from Cayce's 'earth
changes'
> predictions, by the way--- and ladled out lots of their dough to
mollify the
> locals; but after the Soviet Union collapsed and all her
predictions failed,
> they noticed that her giant underground oil tank was leaking and
polluting
> the groundwater, and attitudes changed pretty quick. Empires like
these are
> built on sand. Figs can't come from thistles, and nothing good can
come from
> a foundation of falsehoods. Lucifer will always fall back to earth.
>
> Dr. Starman
>
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Nice posts.  I agree with what you say about channeling Starman.
Relating to fragments of individual personality memories.  Reading
Steiner's `Life after Death' once the physical body has fallen off we
follow the soul through the stages one goes through in the planetary
spheres before new incarnation.

Firstly, during the Moon sphere after reviewing the recently past
life the memories of this life disappear and there is the feeling
where are my memories.  This losing the memories is an important
stage in order for the soul to become aware of the spiritual
surroundings.  After the Moon stage, one experiences the Sun stage -
here the Christ Spirit comes to prominence, after this the soul
experiences the Venus stage and here depending on one's faith
(revealed in the Sun stage) one dwells with ones own kind (like
attracts like) for quite a time as in a spiritual home being a group.

After this there is an urge to perceive oneself again and evolve
(through karma and with ones relationship with people known while
incarnate) from here there is further traveling through the planetary
spheres where one is creating a new body for incarnation.  Then comes
the urge to bring to fruitation ones experiences in the spheres into
a new life and this is brought upon by thinking about ones memories.
And in order to `catch up' with one's memories the soul is born again
in the Earth and here the soul's memories are regained.

However, once we are here the memories are not perceived as a `movie'
per se but one lives the totality of these memories embodied in the
soul in the new life. This being an accumulation of these memories
and may be called intuition.  Intuition is the accumulation of
experience manifested into form.  With this our Oversoul, our
spiritual counterpart, is the accumulation of experience.

So we can say living is right here right now.  Like you say
Starman: `The truth is that information TRULY from a higher source is
integrated with the daily mind, flows through it and uses what it has-
--- a state where it becomes another separate being is not needed,
and in fact is a sign that lower subconscious forces are at work'.

There are cases where a soul does not regain its memories in total
when incarnate into new life (for various reason mainly urging to
incarnate to soon) and this might be the explanation for the so
called channelers searching for lost memories but due to being in the
Earth realm – it gets a bit mixed up.

My summary of Rudolf Steiner's `Life after Death' is brief, If one
has studied it one will have a better colouring in.

The Mayans followed the movement of Venus in their calendar `the
codex' and Venus transits the Sun in 2012 as it did in 2004.  The
2004 transit was great to watch – Venus being a tiny dot on the Sun
as it passed over.

I think every generation thinks the world is going to end!  Aquarius
enters the vernal equinox in approximately 500 years still – an event
which will happen by the Grace of God.  The Mill turns on course,
line upon line, percept upon percept.

Seven Archangels – the six Planetary Intelligences and the Sun
Intelligence – in regularity of rotation serve as regents, directing
and guiding the evolution of mankind by determining the fundamental
character of successive minor ages.

Our Age of Michael, Exalted Sun Intelligence, began in 1879 and will
last for three to four hundred years;  the Michael impulse manifests
as spiritual intelligence, cosmopolitanism, and cosmic Christianity.
With the aid of Michael – now the Countenance of the Christ, as
formerly he was the Countenance of Jehovah – man will be able to
spiritualise his intelligence and the conditions of life that immerse
him so deeply in matter.

It is my thought that too much credit is given to Ahriman and
Luciferic influences and not much thought to MAN's own folly and
shortcomings.  Especially when it is understood God is the Creator of
everything; nothing moves without God's knowledge.  This is why it is
wise for Man to `Know Thyself' first.

Well my piece for the day!

Regards to all.
Caryn

PS:  Starman, interesting about the stripes on the Flag I can see how
that can be.  I view the waves as electricity (Uranus) and the first
of the Zodiac to break out of the Circle into a spiral.

> I can tell you from experience that Washington and Oregon don't
> think that way.  You sound like an americanist neo-con who found a
> way to conveniently vent from a newspaper article on JZ Knight.
> Well, what about those Virginia Beach frauds?  Do they have the
> effect of driving the saner folks toward someone like Rudy Giuliani
> for President?  You see, it all balances out in the end, whether
> it's now or 2012.  You seem to take very decidely high leaps and
> bounds with your political history, Starman.  And all you really
> know is what you read in a book or newspaper that appeals to you.

Steve, wipe the foam off your mouth and start thinking coherently.
Absolutely nothing you said makes an iota of sense.  An Americanist?
Guliani?   Neocons?  The year 2012?  Have I ever lived in the West?

Did you forget to take your prozak this morning, Steve?

The mystery of how eukaryotic genes are regulated is paramount for
understanding The Christ in relation to our cellular organism.

Without some intelligent structure pre-programmed into our genes,
after all, our bodies would instantly start generating random and
chaotic mutations; or perhaps start resurrecting beastly, pre-
diluvial programs lying dormant within the human genome.  But because
a Christ-imbued regulatory power is at work within cellular
evolution, these "Hieronymus Bosch" mutations do not occur except in
cases of cancer or certain deformities in which the genome becomes
scrambled.

The fact that our DNA isn't scrambled-up in "Boschian" arrangements
is one of the greatest miracles of life, in my opinion.  Geneticists
today expend a great deal of energy and time trying to understand why
our bodies don't start randomly mutating, but rather generate cells
that are needed where they're needed, when they're needed and not,
for instance, generate mutants where they're not supposed to be.  The
power to mutate is possible wherever there is DNA, and DNA is found
throughout the body, in every cell.

There's enough DNA in your lip to totally reconstruct an entire body,
from the toes to the brain.  Yet, by a miracle, only a small
percentage of the DNA is activated; about 3-5%.  Otherwise your lip
might mutate into a liver or a spleen or perhaps start growing fins
and scales, as in the half-human, half-ichthyic Hieronymus Bosch
figures painted into his horrific triptychs.  Highly specialized
cells like muscles use even less of their DNA even though they too
possess the entire human genome.

By the power of Christ, the eye behaves as an eye, the hands as
hands.

--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
>
> > I can tell you from experience that Washington and Oregon don't
> > think that way.  You sound like an americanist neo-con who found a
> > way to conveniently vent from a newspaper article on JZ Knight.
> > Well, what about those Virginia Beach frauds?  Do they have the
> > effect of driving the saner folks toward someone like Rudy Giuliani
> > for President?  You see, it all balances out in the end, whether
> > it's now or 2012.  You seem to take very decidely high leaps and
> > bounds with your political history, Starman.  And all you really
> > know is what you read in a book or newspaper that appeals to you.
>
> Steve, wipe the foam off your mouth and start thinking coherently.
> Absolutely nothing you said makes an iota of sense.  An Americanist?
> Guliani?   Neocons?  The year 2012?  Have I ever lived in the West?
>
> Did you forget to take your prozak this morning, Steve?

I'm sorry Mathew, I was referring to message 4360 in my response.  It
was Starman's diatribe beginning about half-way down, after the url
from the Olympian paper.  So, I guess my comments were for him, not
you.  Sorry again for the misunderstanding.

By the way, how long were you up in Yelm?

Steve

****** Matt is perfectly capable of responding to what's posted here, too. I
was thinking the same thing about forgetting to take one's Prozac. I assume
you're a liberal.

   The idea that you have to have lived in Oregon or Washington to know its
left-wing bias is absurd. As a political scientist, I can look at how
different states have voted in the past generation of elections, and
likewise all my fellow policsi researchers can see the effects of
Calfiornians fleeing La-La Land to live in Seattle or Sedona, Arizona,
without living there. Where has doctor-assisted suicide been legalized
recently? Where is there a push for not enforcing the drug laws, for
legalizing homosexual 'marriage'---in short, for all the things that agree
with the liberal-communist-Ahrimanic philosophy that says you're just a hunk
of matter ruled by material laws and so all moralty is relative and
everything should be allowed---- and attached to that is that the only real
'religion' is Luciferic subjective mystical flights of fancy, with or
without drugs, in which whatever you think or imagine becomes real? That's
the ideology of Hollywood. Just listen to what the vocal proponents of it
say. Use the material world ---the laws of electricty, sound and light ---to
advance the philosophy of irrationalism that says everything is an illusion
and your mind can make it into anything you want. The creator of Spider-Man,
Steve Ditko, did many amusing comics illustrating it years ago. I hope the
success of his creation makes people go back and look at them more.

    I'd say the effect of Luciferic self-deluded nuts like JZ Knight on
national politics is zero. What Matt and I were alluding to is how they
sometimes can have an effect on local politics, via using their disciples'
money. None of the phonies in Virginia Beach ever got that rich, instead
they bankrupted their followers trying to start big 'communities' which were
failed land deals.

    I have no idea either what the reference to Guliani or 2012 means. And
whatever your personal experience with Washington or Oregon state is, I'd
say the election results show a clearer picture of the attitudes of the
population in general than any anecdotal evidence. Anyone can see what the
attitude of places like San Francisco or Massachussets is compared to the
rest of the county without livng there.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com





>From: "Stephen Hale" <sardisian01@...>
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] Re: Ramtha
>Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 03:39:25 -0000
>
>--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
> >
> > > I can tell you from experience that Washington and Oregon don't
> > > think that way.  You sound like an americanist neo-con who found a
> > > way to conveniently vent from a newspaper article on JZ Knight.
> > > Well, what about those Virginia Beach frauds?  Do they have the
> > > effect of driving the saner folks toward someone like Rudy Giuliani
> > > for President?  You see, it all balances out in the end, whether
> > > it's now or 2012.  You seem to take very decidely high leaps and
> > > bounds with your political history, Starman.  And all you really
> > > know is what you read in a book or newspaper that appeals to you.
> >
> > Steve, wipe the foam off your mouth and start thinking coherently.
> > Absolutely nothing you said makes an iota of sense.  An Americanist?
> > Guliani?   Neocons?  The year 2012?  Have I ever lived in the West?
> >
> > Did you forget to take your prozak this morning, Steve?
>
>I'm sorry Mathew, I was referring to message 4360 in my response.  It
>was Starman's diatribe beginning about half-way down, after the url
>from the Olympian paper.  So, I guess my comments were for him, not
>you.
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The problem with sin is that it cultivates negative energy. From the mind where it begins or originates, it creeps down into your heart. Then you're in trouble. That's why it's not a sin to think a bad thought, if you dismiss it. You did not act on it. Therefore, it is not a sin. But if you dwell on the wrong thought, it will creep on down into your heart and become a part of you. So, above all else, safeguard your hearts.
 
WHAT ABOUT WATER BAPTISM?
 
It is not necessary to be baptized in water to be saved. Jesus Christ was the forerunner. In Christ's Ministry, baptism in water was used to anoint him by his Father. It was continued by his disciples, because he had not yet ascended to Heaven, and had not yet received the Kingdom Authority that would later be bestowed upon him by his Father Yahweh. Once that had been fully accomplished, the Light of Truth became the baptism via the Light of Christ. The Savior's instructions given at Matthew 28:19-20, you see the baptism it speaks of is a baptism of Holy Spirit.
 
Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.
 
This takes place when one truly comes to understand the Father of Jesus Christ and accept Him as Truth. Water is no longer necessary to be sanctified. The purpose of baptism before Christ was to symbolize the shedding of one's former ways of sinful conduct. That was sanctification. Now, the baptism of sanctification is done as mentioned above. The Holy Ghost transformation is performed through the Light of Christ.
 
WILL YOU BE DAMNED IF NOT BAPTISED IN WATER?
 
Children pass over without water baptism. Some die at birth or are aborted. The children have special status with the Creator. They are not damned and neither are adults that are not water baptized. What would happen if you were shipwrecked for the remainder of you life? How could God justify not giving you a chance to learn His Sovereign Will at transition? The only requirement for Christ's salvation is that of a humble heart. Once you are with Christ, he knows your humble heart will accept him. When you passed through his Light, you were then baptized as a Holy Ghost. The water baptism would be nil in Christ's eyes. It is the HEART that Saves. Nothing else can get you into the Kingdom unless your heart is of Positive energy. Yahweh Himself reveals this at Jeremiah 17:10.
 
I, the LORD, examine the mind, I test the heart to give to each according to his way, according to what his actions deserve.
 
If the heart were not the thing of importance, He would not search it. It is not the outward appearance that Saves, but what is hidden deep within the heart.
 
ALL POSITIVE ENERGY PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTABLE
 
People of all nationalities, regardless of race, color or religion are open to the Salvation of Christ.
 
Then I saw another angel flying in mid-heaven, having the eternal gospel to announce to the inhabitants of the earth to every nation, tribe, language, and people. Revelation 14:6.
 
Hear this, all you peoples; listen, all who inhabit the world, both low and high, rich and poor together. Psalms 49:1-2.
 
Then Peter began to speak: In truth, I understand that God doesn't show favoritism, but in every nation the person who fears Him and does righteousness is acceptable to Him. Acts 10:34-35.
 
REMEMBER - IT'S A FREE WILL CHOICE
 
Everyone has Free Will Choice in the decision and are able to choose one way or the other. That's why we will not try to force the Truth on to anyone.
 
I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you today that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse. Choose life so that you and your descendants may live, love the LORD your God, obey Him, and remain faithful to Him. For He is your life, and He will prolong your life in the land the LORD swore to give to your fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Deuteronomy 30:19-20
 
But if it doesn't please you to worship the LORD, choose for yourselves today the one you will worship: the gods your fathers worshiped beyond the Euphrates River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. As for me and my family, we will worship the LORD. Joshua 24:15
 
If you carefully obey My commands I am giving you today, to love the LORD your God and worship Him with all your heart and all your soul, I will provide rain for your land in season, the early and late rains, and you will harvest your grain, new wine, and oil. I will provide grass in your fields for your livestock. You will eat and be satisfied. Be careful that you are not enticed to turn aside, worship, and bow down to other gods. Then the LORD's anger will burn against you. He will close the sky, and there will be no rain; the land will not yield its produce, and you will perish quickly from the good land the LORD is giving you. Deuteronomy 11:13-17
 
This is how we are sure that we have come to know Him: by keeping His commands. 1 John 2:3
 
SALVATION - KINGDOM MESSAGE COMPLETED
 
Now, either you will accept or reject the Truth we have ministered to you. Since everyone should come to understand that actions result in consequences, we deliver the following warning. If you decide to refuse the truth, then you will know what is ahead--even if you reject that also, at this time. Later on, you will see our words come to life. If you accept the Truth now but are later tempted to cultivate a negative energy within your heart, then the warning we share might help to prevent that from happening.
 
YAHWEH'S BITTER-SWEET WARNING TO ALL PEOPLE OF THE EARTH
 
He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life. He that disobeys the Son will not see life. The Wrath of God remains upon him.
 
The one who believes in the Son has eternal life, but the one who refuses to believe in the Son will not see life; instead, the wrath of God remains on him. John 3:36
 
Once you have been given the Message of Truth, if you do not obey it you are exercising your Free Will choice. However, it will result in eternal death at the Judgment. Just as Satan and his angels cannot have free reign in creation - neither will it be permitted of those that exercise that choice. Your fate is upon your own head.
 
Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of everyone's blood, for I did not shrink back from declaring to you the whole plan of God. Acts 20:26-27
 
The above scripture reveals we will be clean from the blood of those who make the wrong choice. If you are so cultivated with negative energy that you hear and know that what we speak is Truth and you continue to sin willfully by rejecting that Truth, then you will lose the Sacrificial Hope of Salvation. Time will eventually run out. Armageddon is the final Judgment Chapter.
 
For if we deliberately sin after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins Hebrews 10:26
 
to proclaim the year of the LORD's favor, and the day of our God's vengeance... Isaiah 61:2
 
The tumult reaches to the ends of the earth because the LORD brings a case against the nations. He enters into judgment with all flesh. As for the wicked, He hands them over to the sword [This is] the LORD's declaration. Jeremiah 25:31
 
I tell you that on the day of judgment people will have to account for every careless word they speak. Matthew 12:36
When I say to the wicked, 'O wicked man, you will surely die,' and you do not speak out to dissuade him from his ways, that wicked man will die for his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood." Ezekiel 33:8
 
SANCTIFICATON OF THE CREATOR'S NAME
 
This GOOD NEWS of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth and bear witness to all the nations. The nations will be made to know Yahweh. His Name must be sanctified before the nations.
 
I will honor the holiness of My great name, which has been profaned among the nations the name you have profaned among them. The nations will know that I am Yahweh "the declaration of the Lord GOD "when I demonstrate My holiness through you in their sight. Ezekiel 36:23
 
So I will make My holy name known among My people Israel and will no longer allow it to be profaned. Then the nations will know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel. Ezekiel 39:7
 
ARE THERE ANY FREE RIDES TO ETERNAL BLISS?

Anyone that believes they can get a free ride through eternity without going through Christ, please read:
 
There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12
 
Once you have received the Truth, you are under obligation by the Creator.
 
Wisdom is supreme so get wisdom. And whatever else you get, get understanding. Proverbs 4:7
 
Your Sisters in Christ,
The Ministers of the Light of Life Ministry
 
(All Scripture references are from the Holman Christian Standard Bible)

Now, to say that DNA is merely the work of the spirit is being a bit
too obtuse for my taste.  An actual, physical mechanism is at play
during cell creation, when most genes are deactivated in favor of
only those genes that express the intended purpose of the entire
organism.  As I said before, you don't need liver genes manifesting
themselves in the tongue.  Liver cells would need to be deactivated
everywhere else in the body, except in the liver.

At least 95-97% of DNA is deactivated in any one part of the body.
Otherwise the body would uninhabitable.  It would consist in
uncontrolled protrusions mirroring the chaos of the Abyss and not the
genius, bliss and harmony of the Created World.

Our increasing ability to comprehend DNA on a mechanical-physical
level opens up the possibility of actually controlling our DNA,
thereby placing the power of human evolution in our own hands instead
of in the Darwinian Power operating within the forces of nature.
Without genetic engineering Sixth Epoch Man is a dream.

At this point, geneticists are aware of several ways in which the
body deactivates that 95-97% of DNA within the cell that does not
correspond to the intended purpose of the cell.  These methods of
cellular regulation would include DNA demethylation, histone
acetylation, TATA box manipulation in the transcript phase, and
degradation.









--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...> wrote:
>
> The mystery of how eukaryotic genes are regulated is paramount for
> understanding The Christ in relation to our cellular organism.
>
> Without some intelligent structure pre-programmed into our genes,
> after all, our bodies would instantly start generating random and
> chaotic mutations; or perhaps start resurrecting beastly, pre-
> diluvial programs lying dormant within the human genome.  But
because
> a Christ-imbued regulatory power is at work within cellular
> evolution, these "Hieronymus Bosch" mutations do not occur except
in
> cases of cancer or certain deformities in which the genome becomes
> scrambled.
>
> The fact that our DNA isn't scrambled-up in "Boschian" arrangements
> is one of the greatest miracles of life, in my opinion.
Geneticists
> today expend a great deal of energy and time trying to understand
why
> our bodies don't start randomly mutating, but rather generate cells
> that are needed where they're needed, when they're needed and not,
> for instance, generate mutants where they're not supposed to be.
The
> power to mutate is possible wherever there is DNA, and DNA is found
> throughout the body, in every cell.
>
> There's enough DNA in your lip to totally reconstruct an entire
body,
> from the toes to the brain.  Yet, by a miracle, only a small
> percentage of the DNA is activated; about 3-5%.  Otherwise your lip
> might mutate into a liver or a spleen or perhaps start growing fins
> and scales, as in the half-human, half-ichthyic Hieronymus Bosch
> figures painted into his horrific triptychs.  Highly specialized
> cells like muscles use even less of their DNA even though they too
> possess the entire human genome.
>
> By the power of Christ, the eye behaves as an eye, the hands as
> hands.
>

>
>
>I am in service to the Father and Christ as the Chosen One to bring
>forth the Truth to light. Together with my sisters of the Light of Life
>Ministry we have a very important message to deliver to all of mankind...

*******I can guess what kind of Light that is! How are thou fallen, O Son of
the Morning.

   Well, good luck going to deliver your message to mankind. I'd suggest you
get on TV or a soapbox in Central Park. This is a Steiner study group with
only about 250 members. Try a wider forum.

-starman

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The "CALENDAR OF THE SOUL"

Dr. Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of
52 meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.

These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days.

Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************
THE ZODIAC IMAGE:
The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation TAURUS from May 1st through June 15th in our era.
A version of the new symbolic image of the BULL from the original
Soul-Calendar, done by an artist from Steiner's sketches & indications, is
attached to this e-mail, below.

THE WEEK'S MANTRA:
For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
The meaning of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important, but
rather reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner
experience. Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have
their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*    M A N T R A  #7 *
Mein selbst, es drohet zu entfliehen,
Vom Weltenlichte mächtig angezogen.
Nun trete du mein Ahnen
In deine Rechte kraftig ein
Ersetze mir des Denkens Macht
Das in der Sinne Schein
Sich selbst verlieren will.

My Self, it threatens to fly out
To World-Light mightily drawn.
Now enter you, my foreboding,
Into your rightful place forcefully,
Restore for me Thinking’s Might
That in the Senses’ Shine
Would lose itself.


*******A few words about the mantra's meaning:
    The weaving of the Sun in the springtime growth of the plants reveals the
Divine working in Nature. The past few weeks we can feel that spiritual
essence which we see working as being like our souls spread out in external
space, we feel joy in it just as if we were magically causing it.
   But now,this week, the spiritual force of the light is SO strong that we
would dissolve into it--- and so, a feeling of anxiety about what is to come
in the future grows in us, to keep us from being
only in this present moment: that is, preventing thinking from losing itself
totally in the senses.

THE DAYS OF THE WEEK:
The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures and events connected with the days.

Sunday, May 20th. Moon Cancer. Columbus died 1506. John Stuart Mill born
1806.

Monday, May 21st. Moon Leo.  Albrecht Dürer born 1471.

Tuesday, May 22nd. Moon Leo. Richard Wagner born 1813.

Wesnesday May 23rd. Moon Virgo. Savanarola burnt at the stake 1498.

Thursday, May 24th. Moon Virgo. Copernicus died 1543. Lord Bulwer-Lytton
born 1803.
Robert Zimmerman (Bob Dylan) born 1941.

Friday, May 25th. Moon Virgo. Laying of the Foundation Stone of the
Strassbourg Monastery 1277.

Saturday, May 26th. Moon Libra. The Venerable Bede (famous English monk of
the 8th century).

Dr. Starman

PLANETS IN THE NIGHT SKY:
Venus is a brilliant Evening Star high in the West above the setting sun
each
evening, near the Twins. The crescent Moon is a bit past it Sun. the 20th.

Saturn is in the stars of Leo in the southwest at sunset, at the feet of the
Lion. The Moon goes by it Monday and Tuesday nights.

Bright Jupiter rises in the southeast about an hour after sunset. The full
moon next week will be very close to it.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

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Glory to God in the Highest!

Regina love, have you maybe considered that the end times might be
the change of the Sun's position from Pisces into Aquarius?  This
saying it is the end of the Piscean Age and we look forward to the
Aquarian Age.

The message of Christ is very special and very personal because
people come to Christ willingly - within themselves - a flame grows
deep inside; it comes from inside and not from the outside.

If I may just comment on what you said here-
'However, it is also our responsibility to warn those who do not
accept this Truth, will face Judgment at Armageddon'.

And you go on to say-
'If they believe falsehoods about Christ, cling to their man-made
religious belief systems and exhibit no signs of positive energy,
they will be marked accordingly by the Cherubic Order of Angels. All
people are judged by what is really in their hearts'.

In these two sentences it is difficult to feel the positive energy
spoken about in the second sentence.

When we read Rudolf Steiner, he tells us people who speak about
Christ and the devotion to Christ - are the one's who have the souls
of the disincarnate Children with and around them.

When we reflect of this - it is so beautiful.  For it shows us God
through Christ chooses Children to talk about His word.  The
innocence of Children whose hearts are so close to God are Christ's
true servants.

Can we be as innocent as Children to really understand the warmth and
love given to us by God?

Regina, just my thoughts.
May you be loved and guided by Christ.

Caryn