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#3780 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Tue Jul 4, 2006 3:04 am
Subject: Guilt
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Let me make a brief case in favor of guilt, by first stating that
there are limitations to what guilt can provide therapeutically
speaking, and that obsessive guilt (or being guilt ridden) is
counterproductive in the emotional healing process.  At some point
you must transcend guilt and, in modern vernacular, "forget about it"-
--as hard as that might be.  As Nietzsche says, forgetting is
necessary for "all the nobler functions and functionaries…"

However guilt is unavoidable for most people, for it comes with
having a conscience.  If you did not have a conscience you would not
feel guilt.  You would be person who can commit sin without
suffering.  For the rest of us, sin is suffering.  Eventually we move
through the guilt stage through atonement, but not after we have
burned in its fires long enough for our soul to achieve an emotional
memory of the event.  In this way, we evolve as individuals.

The danger of the New Age---as it is preached in pop culture---is
that it negates the quality of guilt; and therefore negates the
feeling of pain due to wrong action.  In fact, the primary aim of New
Age thought is to be guilt free, to be liberated from all universal
concepts of right and wrong, good and evil, to do whatever one wants
to do, whenever one wants to do it, without shame, guilt, fault,
guilt, remorse, or responsibility, in essence to live in the eternal
innocence of unreflective unconsciousness.  Guilt is seen as
backward, as something that gets in the way of living life to the
fullest.  Guilt is the opposite of what the New Age strives for:  a
life lived in the moment, without the repercussions of Time.

#3781 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Tue Jul 4, 2006 4:27 pm
Subject: Soul-Calendar, Week 12 after Easter
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******* Sorry this week's Calendar is late.   -starman

                      The "Calendar of the Soul"

      Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of 52
meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.
      These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days.
     Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************

     The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation GEMINI from June 16th to July 20th in our era. A version of
the symbolic image of the TWINS in the original Soul-Calendar, done from
Steiner's sketches & indications, is attached to this post.

    This week's mantra.
      For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
     The meaning of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important,
but rather
reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner experience.
Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*  M A N T R A  # 1 2 (St. John’s Tide) *
Der Welten Schönheitsglanz,
Er zwinget mich aus Seelentiefen
Des Eigenlebens Götterkrafte
Zum Weltenfluge zu entbinden;
Mich selber zu verlassen,
Vertrauend nur mich suchend
Im Weltenlicht und Weltenwärme.

The world's beautiful glitter
Forces me, out of Soul's Deeps,
My individual life's godly forces
To World-Flowing to release;
My self to abandon
Trusting only in my seeking
In World-Light and World-Warmth.

   This week is the event the previous several week's mantras have been
leading up to: it is the irresistible drive of the deepest forces of the
soul
to surrender ourselves to the light and warmth of the upper spheres. The
motif of St. John's/Midsummer: "To find yourself, first lose yourself."

**********************************
The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday, July 2nd. Moon Libra.
1778 Rousseau died.

Monday, July 3rd. Moon Libra. First Quarter.
Anatolius.

Tuesday, July 4th. Moon Libra.
Ulrich.

Wednesday, July 5th. Moon Scorpio.
Cyril and Methodius. Hosea (Prophet).

Thursday, July 6th. Moon Scorpio.
Hus born 1369; Hus burned at the stake 1415. 1502 University of Wittenberg
founded.


Friday, July 7th. Moon Sagittarius.
Demetrius.


Saturday, July 8th. Moon Sagittarius.
Aquila and Priscilla.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

#3782 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 10:02 am
Subject: Ramtha Parody
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Hi, my name is JZ Knight---and I have an embarrassing confession to
make.  You may know me as "that lady who channels Ramtha" or as Zsa
Zsa Gabor, my stage name.  Over the last thirty years I've suckered
tens of millions of dollars from the pockets of my stupid yet devoted
followers, without ever being exactly honest with them.

You see, I've never channeled Ramtha---and I feel guilty about that.
That is, I never channeled the spirit of Ramtha, the 30,000 year old
ascended master from Atlantis.  It's all been a complete lie.
Thousands of people all around the world have drastically altered
their lives, ditched their husbands, abandon their families,
bastardized their children, just so they could attend my initiate
training academy in Yelm, WA.

And what did I give them in return?  I gave them lies, unbelievable,
outrageous lies that only a five year old child would believe.  I
told them that the world was going to be deluged in flood, fire and
earthquakes, and that only they, my cherished followers, would
survive the environmental dooms day.  What total nincompoops.

Again, I'm really, really sorry.  It's just that, it was so easy.
Sometimes, when I think of all the sacrifices that my followers made,
I want to hurt myself.  I want to grab my neck and squeeze as hard as
I can.  Sometimes I want to strangle my followers, but mostly it's
myself.  If my followers weren't such stupid idiots, I would have
confessed long, long ago; but they're such damned fools, it was like
taking money from inebriated sailors on weekend furlough.

The truth of the matter is, I've been channeling an auto mechanic for
the last thirty years---not Ramtha.  It physically hurts to say that,
but it's true.  His name is Ned and he's a grease monkey.  In 1977 he
died at a tractor pulling contest, when one of the chains snapped and
hit him in the skull.  On the same night, in 1977, I was screwing
around with a ouji board, completely stoned out of my mind, when I
made contact with his disembodied spirit.  He said to me, "Got any
beer?"

#3783 From: "My2Cents" <my2cents@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 2:03 pm
Subject: RE: Ramtha Parody
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Mathew is indeed developing his innate talents as a serious writer!

Regarding JZ Knight's pursuits:

Who was it who said to the effect "There's a sucker born every minute"?

Blessings,

My2Cents

  --- On Wed 07/05, Mathew Morrell < tma4cbt@... > wrote:
  Ramtha Parody


             Hi, my name is JZ Knight---and I have an embarrassing confession to
make.  You may know me as "that lady who channels Ramtha" or as Zsa
Zsa Gabor, my stage name.  Over the last thirty years I've suckered
tens of millions of dollars from the pockets of my stupid yet devoted
followers, without ever being exactly honest with them.

You see, I've never channeled Ramtha---and I feel guilty about that.
That is, I never channeled the spirit of Ramtha, the 30,000 year old
ascended master from Atlantis.  It's all been a complete lie.
Thousands of people all around the world have drastically altered
their lives, ditched their husbands, abandon their families,
bastardized their children, just so they could attend my initiate
training academy in Yelm, WA.

And what did I give them in return?  I gave them lies, unbelievable,
outrageous lies that only a five year old child would believe.  I
told them that the world was going to be deluged in flood, fire and
earthquakes, and that only they, my cherished followers, would
survive the environmental dooms day.  What total nincompoops.

Again, I'm really, really sorry.  It's just that, it was so easy.
Sometimes, when I think of all the sacrifices that my followers made,
I want to hurt myself.  I want to grab my neck and squeeze as hard as
I can.  Sometimes I want to strangle my followers, but mostly it's
myself.  If my followers weren't such stupid idiots, I would have
confessed long, long ago; but they're such damned fools, it was like
taking money from inebriated sailors on weekend furlough.

The truth of the matter is, I've been channeling an auto mechanic for
the last thirty years---not Ramtha.  It physically hurts to say that,
but it's true.  His name is Ned and he's a grease monkey.  In 1977 he
died at a tractor pulling contest, when one of the chains snapped and
hit him in the skull.  On the same night, in 1977, I was screwing
around with a ouji board, completely stoned out of my mind, when I
made contact with his disembodied spirit.  He said to me, "Got any
beer?"






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#3784 From: "My2Cents" <my2cents@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 1:57 pm
Subject: RE: Guilt
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Dear Mathew and All,

Guilt is indeed a sign of human conscience. Steiner writes to the effect that
there was a very specific point in history when conscience replaced what was
known in older times, such as the old Roman days, as The Furies. Unless I'm
greatly mistaken, human conscience is exemplified by Eurypides in his "Oedepus".

Blessings,

My2Cents

  --- On Mon 07/03, Mathew Morrell < tma4cbt@... > wrote:
Subject: [steiner] Guilt

             Let me make a brief case in favor of guilt, by first stating that
there are limitations to what guilt can provide therapeutically
speaking, and that obsessive guilt (or being guilt ridden) is
counterproductive in the emotional healing process.  At some point
you must transcend guilt and, in modern vernacular, "forget about it"-
--as hard as that might be.  As Nietzsche says, forgetting is
necessary for "all the nobler functions and functionaries…"

However guilt is unavoidable for most people, for it comes with
having a conscience.  If you did not have a conscience you would not
feel guilt.  You would be person who can commit sin without
suffering.  For the rest of us, sin is suffering.  Eventually we move
through the guilt stage through atonement, but not after we have
burned in its fires long enough for our soul to achieve an emotional
memory of the event.  In this way, we evolve as individuals.

The danger of the New Age---as it is preached in pop culture---is
that it negates the quality of guilt; and therefore negates the
feeling of pain due to wrong action.  In fact, the primary aim of New
Age thought is to be guilt free, to be liberated from all universal
concepts of right and wrong, good and evil, to do whatever one wants
to do, whenever one wants to do it, without shame, guilt, fault,
guilt, remorse, or responsibility, in essence to live in the eternal
innocence of unreflective unconsciousness.  Guilt is seen as
backward, as something that gets in the way of living life to the
fullest.  Guilt is the opposite of what the New Age strives for:  a
life lived in the moment, without the repercussions of Time.






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#3785 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 3:14 pm
Subject: RE: Ramtha Parody
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******* That was from the great American "philosopher"  P.T. Barnum.

     BTW, if you'd like to hear a great parody of California New Age
nuttiness, the Firesign Theater ----all the way back in the 1970s when it
was all just starting ---- did an abum called "Everything You Know Is Wrong"
(also a short film of the same name which I have a copy of, butwhich  isn't
easy to find like the album), in which the Art Bell-type radio wacko "Happy"
Cox changes the saying a bit to more closely match the creed of snake-oil
salesmen like Dan Brown, Elizabeth Clare Prophet, Swami Rajneesh and so many
others: "There's a SEEKER born every minute." ;->

    Ah, all the more reason to try to introduce people to spirit
science----the ruling paradigm of the West has become falsified and no
longer answers the needs of the human soul, so people are seeking, and need
to find their way to the real thing, as we know it is from experience.

Starman

www.DrStarman.com




>
>Regarding JZ Knight's pursuits:
>
>Who was it who said to the effect "There's a sucker born every minute"?
>
>Blessings,
>
>My2Cents
>
>  --- On Wed 07/05, Mathew Morrell < tma4cbt@... > wrote:
>  Ramtha Parody

#3786 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 3:46 pm
Subject: RE: Guilt
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******* The reference was to the great change from the time of the Golden
Age Greek dramatist Aeschylus, the first to make plays which werre a profane
version of the rites enacted in the Mysteries, to the" Silver Age" one
Sophocles, and then the much lesser 'Bronze Age' Euripdes---- by whose time
all the spiritual which still poured into Aeshylus' work had disappeared,
and it was only the human intellect, clever though he was, treating the same
traditional stories. In Aeshylus' time, a man who harmed his blood-relations
was pictured as pursued by the Furies, spirit-beings shown on the stage:
only a generation or so later, Euripides had to stage the same plays showing
a character like Medea tormented instead by her own mind, her conscience.
Steiner said therefore that this time was the historical origin of
conscience.

    But just as the Ego is a two-edged sword, giving us both the possibility
of Love as well as Evil, so conscience can be perverted into a tormenting
wave of guilt beyond all reason---- one, moreover, used by religious
power-structures to make people believe they need the church hierarchy to be
saved from their "sinfulness", as Wilhelm Reich and others pointed out. Some
of the New Age philosophy is (quite rightly) reacting to this perversion of
Christianity, the demonization of our reproductive desires for instance,
which is nowhere in Jesus' teaching (or in Steiner's, for that matter)-----
best exemplified by the hair-shirted monks in "Monty Python and the Holy
Grail"wacking themselves over the head with boards in the name of "God."
Instead, what has evolved in the modern West is what William James called a
"Religion of Healthy-Mindedness", where what is deemed healthy is
pragmatically seen as good.

    As for the opposite extreme, the evasion of the slightest twinge of
conscience in order to avoid all guilt resulting therefrom----- yes, it's
there in lots of New Age stuff (as in secular humanism, socialism and
communism, for that matter); but even that is the perception of a dangerous
truth, that the initiate can kill and incur no karma. There is no action
which is wrong in itself; it's rather as the Edgar Cayce Readings put it,
that what an individual is "judged" by after death is "what we have done
about the ideals we have set." So morality is in a true sense "relative"
---- but this is a dangerous truth which initiates withold from the masses
who must hold to absolute morality until ready to graduate beyond it as free
spirits. And all too many think they're ready to graduate to that who
clearly are not, as can be seen in their acting like Aleister Crowley
instead of Rudolf Steiner.
"The philosopher is one who would act the same if there were no laws."

-starman

www.DrStarman.com


>
>Dear Mathew and All,
>
>Guilt is indeed a sign of human conscience. Steiner writes to the effect
>that there was a very specific point in history when conscience replaced
>what was known in older times, such as the old Roman days, as The Furies.
>Unless I'm greatly mistaken, human conscience is exemplified by Eurypides
>in his "Oedepus".
>
>Blessings,
>
>My2Cents
>
>  --- On Mon 07/03, Mathew Morrell < tma4cbt@... > wrote:
>Subject: [steiner] Guilt
>
>             Let me make a brief case in favor of guilt, by first stating
>that
>there are limitations to what guilt can provide therapeutically
>speaking, and that obsessive guilt (or being guilt ridden) is
>counterproductive in the emotional healing process.  At some point
>you must transcend guilt and, in modern vernacular, "forget about it"-
>--as hard as that might be.  As Nietzsche says, forgetting is
>necessary for "all the nobler functions and functionaries…"
>
>However guilt is unavoidable for most people, for it comes with
>having a conscience.  If you did not have a conscience you would not
>feel guilt.  You would be person who can commit sin without
>suffering.  For the rest of us, sin is suffering.  Eventually we move
>through the guilt stage through atonement, but not after we have
>burned in its fires long enough for our soul to achieve an emotional
>memory of the event.  In this way, we evolve as individuals.
>
>The danger of the New Age---as it is preached in pop culture---is
>that it negates the quality of guilt; and therefore negates the
>feeling of pain due to wrong action.  In fact, the primary aim of New
>Age thought is to be guilt free, to be liberated from all universal
>concepts of right and wrong, good and evil, to do whatever one wants
>to do, whenever one wants to do it, without shame, guilt, fault,
>guilt, remorse, or responsibility, in essence to live in the eternal
>innocence of unreflective unconsciousness.  Guilt is seen as
>backward, as something that gets in the way of living life to the
>fullest.  Guilt is the opposite of what the New Age strives for:  a
>life lived in the moment, without the repercussions of Time.

#3787 From: celestial_vision@...
Date: Wed Jul 5, 2006 6:11 pm
Subject: new
stephenm142
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Hello,
I am a new member, also rather new to Steiner's fascinating writings. I have completed Theosophy and PoF by Steiner, and McDermott's Essential Steiner. Now reading Easton's Man and World ...
- Stephen

#3788 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 12:17 am
Subject: RE: new
durwardstarman
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******* Welcome to the group, Stephen. Easton's is a good introductory book
to anthroposoophy. Another is A.P. Shepherd's "A Scientist of the
Invisible."

-Starman

www.DrStarman.com





>From: celestial_vision@...
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] new
>Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:11:08 +0000
>
>Hello,
>I am a new member, also rather new to Steiner's fascinating writings. I
>have completed Theosophy and PoF by Steiner, and McDermott's Essential
>Steiner. Now reading Easton's Man and World ...
>- Stephen

#3789 From: "sarah" <sarahwh@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 2:25 am
Subject: Re: Guilt
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The Zoroastrians claim the Conscience first came from their teachings from the word "Asha", which means universal moral Truth, which predates the Greeks by many centuries. Zoroastrianism puts great value on the development of wisdom and insight co-creating with a God of pure compassion, over blind obedience to a wrathful God, making conscience the guide, not fear. In fact, Christianity, Greek philosophy and Judaism are all indebted to Zarathustra whose teachings spread when the Persians invaded Babylon in 539BC. Before their education in Babylon, the Jews were just henotheistic appeasement-based terrified pagans. (I've just done an assignment on this and thoroughly enjoyed it!)

Most modern scholars date Zarathustra to 1000BC-1700BC. I think Steiner dates him to 6000BC(?). One thing for sure; he predated Euripides!

Sarah
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#3790 From: "sarah" <sarahwh@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 9:10 am
Subject: addit on Conscience
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There is a story in 2Samuel 12:1-14 that describes King David experiencing guilt and regret, ie Conscience, in 1000BC, over taking a man's wife and having him killed. This book of the OT was supposedly written around 6th century BC, before the Zoroastrian influence, but since the Jewish bible was not put together until after exile, it is likely to have been a later insertion, because this story definitely stands out as 'different' (I"ve just finished reading the whole OT). Inserting commentary and extra stories was common and perfectly acceptable with the early bible redactors, just so long as the original writing was kept in tact (they were very superstitious about that!).
 
Just wanted to also add that it wasn't just the Jews who were educated out of fear-based to conscience-based, ie wisdom and thinking based religion; it was also the Gentiles .... and the whole world. I wasn't having a go at the Jews - in fact, they got in first ... Gentiles later! We all have Zarathustra to thank!
 
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#3791 From: Stephen <celestial_vision@...>
Date: Thu Jul 6, 2006 11:15 pm
Subject: Re: new
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Starman,
Thank you very much.
- Stephen
============================
Durward Starman wrote:

> ******* Welcome to the group, Stephen. Easton's is a good introductory
> book
> to anthroposoophy. Another is A.P. Shepherd's "A Scientist of the
> Invisible."
>
> -Starman
>

#3792 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Fri Jul 7, 2006 5:05 pm
Subject: Conscience/Evolution of Consciousness
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******* Steiner has quite a different "take" on history than the usual one.
He sees it as an evolutiion of consciousness, where regular academic theory
regards our consciousness as pretty much the same all along---- people were
the same us, only stupider, in the past, which is also their attitude to
children today. There is, however, abundant evidence for the consciousness
of ancient men being completely different than ours, once one's mind is
opened to the possibility---- whereas closed-minded academics interpret the
very things which should stand out as evidence in a way opposite to the
truth because they just can't imagine things otherwise. For instance, the
Egyptians' way of representing the human being with the torso turned
sideways is dismissed as a mere stylism of depiction, not based on people
then objectively perceiving differently; the same with no one being able to
represent three dimensions before Leonardo, everything seen 2-dimensionally.

     But these ancient states of consciousness can be re-experienced and
verified via the Akashic Records. According to these, Steiner states that
there were a long line of "Zoroasters" stemming from the original great one
about 6000 B.C.: it became a title, rather like High Lama, so that the
historical Zoroaster or Zarathustra we know from about the 6th century B.C.
was the last of a long line. Moreover, the "Gathas" or sacred scriptures of
Zoroastrianism originated long before writing in the Farsi language and were
passed down orally for a long time, like the earlier Sanskrit Vedas, only
committed to writing sometime between 3000 B.C. and the Hellenic era-----
and they were re-written or ordered by this very Zoroaster in the 6th-5th
century B.C. Now, this was exactly the time of the first arising of
conscience historically, and also the time when what we call the Old
Testament was likewise compiled and put into the order IT still has. So, the
scriptures were interpreted quite differently then, and a dimension added to
them which the originals did not possess, as the consciousness of the
priests had changed so much along the way. (An interesting study of this
transformation of myth-pictures from earlier states of consciousness into a
later literary one, which needs to be investigated in order to see how the
later layers are superimposed upon the primary material, is "Hamlet's Mill"
by Giorgio de Santillana----  which showed, among other things, that the
ancients were aware of the precession of the equinoxes and Zodiac Ages long
before its historical discovery by Hipparchus in the 3rd century B.C., and
that the Danish legend of Hamlet that Shakespeare used, was originally a
creation myth having to do with the overthrow of one god/king by another,
like Zeus overthrowing Kronos or Saturn.)

     As we come down closer to our era, people naturally began to imagine
that their ancestors had a similar consciousness to ours and they imposed
meanings onto words and documents which they did not originally have.
Compare, for example, the original words of the I Ching without the later
commentary by Confucius, to how it stands combined with his much later layer
of interpretations. Similarly, the Book of Job was only added to the
canonical Hebrew scriptures (the Torah or 5 Books of Moses and the Haggadah
or later writings & traditional tales) only in the final revision at the
time of the return from the Captivity, although it's clearly from an older
source (Edgar Cayce said in fact it was the OLDEST book of the Bible), with
Man already in existence and yet Satan is still up in heaven, ahsn't fallen
in the Garden yet. It, like Genesis, clearly came from a state of
consciousness which the later writers could not re-enter. So I think the
"back-dating" of conscience by students of Zoroastrianism in our time is an
error. They are reading it in to documents from a time before its existence.
The same thing is done when people assert that concepts of citizenship,
justice etc. go back to Hammarabi's first Laws in Babylon, where actually a
person was not conceived of as a 'citizen' until Rome, which Steiner also
points out. As for that characterization of the Hebrews before contact with
Persia, I think that's also erroneous. The Hebrews' agreement with their God
was quite different than pagan religions contemporary with them: it was an
experiemnt in eugenics, requiring purification and endogamy, to produce a
body perfect enough for the Messiah to incarnate in. fortunately, they
succeeded. Of course, people with no experience of the Christ easily have
erroneous views of Judaism and of Christianity for that matter. (A great
source for understanding both as well as Eduard Schure's The Great
Initiates, and for the Aryan Zoroastrian 'fire religion' his later book From
Sphinx To Christ: An Occult History, inspired by Steiner.)

    For a comparison of how radical Steiner's view of history is to our
modern dogmas, consider his saying that the mathematical mind only
originated with Abraham, that when God speaks to him saying "your
descendents will be numbered as the sands of the shore or the stars in the
sky", it's symbolic of the counting mind coming into existence for the first
time. Anyone can immediately raise objections to such an idea, pointing out
evidences of "counting" before this, etc. The difference is in what man was
able to do FOR HIMSELF versus what the gods did IN Man. For instance, alll
mathematical terms are of Greek origin. The Greeks of the 7th through 5th
centuries B.C. discovered the ratio of the radius of a circle to its
circumference and named it after a Greek letter, Pi. Historically we know no
ordinary people before them knew of it: treatises for building are only
empirical, based on using lengths of cord rather than pure ideas, with no
abstract mathematical thinking shown. And yet if you take the height of the
Great Pyramid and construct a circle on it, its area is equal to the square
base of the pyramid. So the value of Pi is built into it. The modern man
must conclude the Egyptians knew of Pi. But it was the initiates who built
the Pyramid, in a time when a divine being could enter an initiate and think
IN him, and he would direct the others. So you have the startling situation
where ancient people could use principles yet not think principles. In the
same way, what was done by initiates was not typical of the people of an age
because their evolution had been accelerated far beyond their time.

    This is why the statements of Dr. Steiner are easily ridiculed by
academia, like that logic originated with Aristotle: it's easy to come up
with apparent contradictions, and difficult to accept at first because we've
all been taught the exact opposite in our Ahrimanic public schools, where
consciousness is as it is now when you're awake and always has been the same
as we've experienced it as waking adults from Rome to our time. Almost no
one outside of anthroposophy imagines anything any differently, although
history as an evolution of consciousness used to be described by many great
philosophers up to only a century or two ago, many of whom Steiner quoted,
like Hegel.

Starman

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>From: "sarah" <sarahwh@...>
>
>The Zoroastrians claim the Conscience first came from their teachings from
>the word "Asha", which means universal moral Truth, which predates the
>Greeks by many centuries. Zoroastrianism puts great value on the
>development of wisdom and insight co-creating with a God of pure
>compassion, over blind obedience to a wrathful God, making conscience the
>guide, not fear. In fact, Christianity, Greek philosophy and Judaism are
>all indebted to Zarathustra whose teachings spread when the Persians
>invaded Babylon in 539BC. Before their education in Babylon, the Jews were
>just henotheistic appeasement-based terrified pagans. (I've just done an
>assignment on this and thoroughly enjoyed it!)
>Most modern scholars date Zarathustra to 1000BC-1700BC. I think Steiner
>dates him to 6000BC(?). One thing for sure; he predated Euripides!
>
>Sarah
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#3793 From: "sarah" <sarahwh@...>
Date: Sat Jul 8, 2006 4:23 am
Subject: conscience
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That was very interesting Starman; thank you.
 
One part that doesn't gel, though, is where you said that the Jewish tribe was trying to inbreed to get to a point of evolution so that the Christ could be born. But inbreeding does the opposite; the less the genes are mixed with different ethnicities, the more dumbed down and more prone to disease and disabilities the tribe becomes. It still happens today; ie with some diseases like Thallasaemia. Even the Australian Aborigines have known this for centuries; they could only marry into certain tribes, as far removed from inbreeding as possible. The pre-exilic Jews were insular and solipsistic; this was their downfall - from my reading and research. But go ahead - prove me wrong :-)
 
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#3794 From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
Date: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:18 pm
Subject: Bondarev's illustrations
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To All:

I have now added the previously missing illustrations
and diagrams to my webpage of Bondarev's "The
Spiritual Configuation of Europe" (Chapter 16 of
*The Crisis of Civilization*, *Anthroposophie auf
der Kreuzung...*).  You might want to take a look;
Bondarev's diagrams do add something to his
verbal presentation:
<http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1105/SpiritualEurope.htm>

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#3795 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:29 pm
Subject: RE: Bondarev's illustrations
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******* First, as an anthroposophist dedicated to our society, I'd like to
know: why was this man expelled from the Anthroposophical Society in 1998,
as it says in the introduction to that web page??? That seems like a strange
person to represent as an anthroposophist.

-starman

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>From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
>steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] Bondarev's illustrations
>Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 11:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>To All:
>
>I have now added the previously missing illustrations
>and diagrams to my webpage of Bondarev's "The
>Spiritual Configuation of Europe" (Chapter 16 of
>*The Crisis of Civilization*, *Anthroposophie auf
>der Kreuzung...*).  You might want to take a look;
>Bondarev's diagrams do add something to his
>verbal presentation:
><http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1105/SpiritualEurope.htm>
>
>Robert Mason
>
>
>
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#3796 From: "opencentergirl" <opencentergirl@...>
Date: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:18 pm
Subject: An Esoteric Quest in Central Europe-A Conference
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Greetings,

I thought that members of the group might be interested in the
following information about an upcoming conference in the Czech
Republic.

From August 31st–September 8th the New York Open Center
(www.opencenter.org) will be sponsoring a conference (with Lapis
Magazine online, the Alchemy Museum in Kutna Hora and the Lumen
Foundation) entitled An Esoteric Quest in Central Europe. The
following is the web link to the conference brochure for you to get
a sense of what it's all about
http://mail.opencenter.org/webdev/esoteric5.pdf.

Please pass this message on to whoever you think may be interested.
For additional information on the conference you can email
quest@... or call 212-219-2527 x 101 and speak to Andrea
Lomanto. Thank you for your time and help.

#3797 From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
Date: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:45 pm
Subject: still more Bondarev material
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To All:

I have just posted another webpage, this one containing
some excerpts I made from Gennady Bondarev's book
*The Crisis of Civilization*.  (These excerpts add
up to about 113K of plain text.)  This page also
has some introductory remarks and links to the
four complete chapters that I had already posted.
<http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1105/BondarevExcerpts.htm>

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#3798 From: Cheeseandsalsa@...
Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:04 pm
Subject: The four streams
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The four streams are 1) the Aristotlean/Platonic stream  2) the old soul stream (?) 3) the farmers/alchemists stream  4)  the Grail stream.  I have them not named entirely correctly.  I am looking for more information on these streams online or off.  Thanks for any help.  ~Chantel

#3799 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:50 pm
Subject: RE: still more Bondarev material
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The first edition of this book appeared in Russian and German in 1995,
published in Moscow and Basel. The German-language (Swiss) publisher
(Moskau-Basel-Verlag, Lochmann Verlag) omitted a few short passages
concerning the so-called "Holocaust" of Jews under the Nazi regime. Bondarev
was expelled from the General Anthroposophical Society in 1998, the given
reason being the alleged "anti-Semitism" expressed in this book and the
omitted passages. (There is reason to suspect that this given reason was not
the real reason.)



*******I'm sorry, but I would ask for a bit more information abdout "the
'so-called' Holocaust" this man wrote of.   What did he mean by "so-called",
please?

    Also I'd need more information to blandly accept the aspersion cast on
the 7 members of the Vorstand, that they said this person, whoever he is,
was expelled for anti-Semitism but they had some other "real reason." I know
several members personally, some for years, and don't easily believe things
said so casually about them.

      Also, I know that it takes an awful lot for the Society to expel
someone---however, if he or she is aggrandizing to themselves the level of
spiritual science of Dr. Steiner while at the same time saying things in
diametric opposition to spirit-science, well that would do it! But even then
it would take a long time to provoke such a reaction. They remember the
split in the Society in the 1930s.

Starman
www.DrStarman.com





>From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
>Reply-To: steiner@yahoogroups.com
>To: anthroposophy@yahoogroups.com, anthroposophy_tomorrow@yahoogroups.com,
>steiner@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [steiner] still more Bondarev material
>Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 10:45:30 -0700 (PDT)
>
>To All:
>
>I have just posted another webpage, this one containing
>some excerpts I made from Gennady Bondarev's book
>*The Crisis of Civilization*.  (These excerpts add
>up to about 113K of plain text.)  This page also
>has some introductory remarks and links to the
>four complete chapters that I had already posted.
><http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Sparta/1105/BondarevExcerpts.htm>
>
>Robert Mason
>
>
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#3800 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:02 am
Subject: Calendar of the Soul, Week 14 after Easter (Summer)
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The "Calendar of the Soul"

       Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of 52
meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.
      These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days. Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************

    The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation GEMINI from June 16th to July 20th in our era. A version of
the symbolic image of the TWINS in the original Soul-Calendar, done from
Steiner's sketches & indications, is attached to this post.

This week's mantra.
For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
The meaning
of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important, but rather
reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner experience.
Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*  M A N T R A  # 1 4 (Summer) *
An Sinnesoffenbarung hingegeben,
Verlor ich mein Eigenwesens Trieb,
Gedankentraum, er schien
Betäubend mir das Selbst zu rauben,
Doch weckend nahet schon
In Sinnenschein mir Weltendanken.

To Senses' offerings given over
I lose Self-Essence's Drive;
Dreaminess of Thinking, it seems
To stupefy me, the Self to rob,
But a waking now approaches,
From Senses' Shining in me, of World-Thinking.

   An interpretation:  The summer is when we are meant to lose ourselves in
the play of light and warmth, so strong that it dims down the Ego's
thinking; then, from out of the Spirit revealed in the outer world, we are
to find our "selves" again in the World-Self. This is the St. John's
experience of "I must decrease that He may increase."
    This week that World-Thinking, the Ideas the Spirit uses to build Nature,
now begins to approach us in our summer waking-dream state, where we are
immersed in the senses' beauty.

             **********************************
The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday, July 16th. Moon Aries.Last Quarter. The Flight of Muhammed 622 A.D.
(Hegira).

Monday, July 17th. Moon Taurus. Leo IV.

Tuesday, July 18th. Moon Taurus.  St. Thomas Aquinas.

Wednesday, July 19th. Moon Taurus.  St. Vincent de Paul.

Thursday, July 20th. Moon Gemini. The Prophet Elijah (Elias).

Friday, May July 21st. Moon Gemini.  Daniel.

Saturday, July 22nd. Moon Cancer. Mary Magdalene. The astronomer Bessel born
1784.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

#3801 From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
Date: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:16 pm
Subject: RE: still more Bondarev material
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To "Starman", who wrote:

>>I'm sorry, but I would ask for a bit more
information abdout [sic] "the 'so-called'
Holocaust" this man wrote of. What did he mean
by "so-called", please?<<

Robert writes:

*So-called* was my word.  I used it and the
quotation marks to signal the need to pause,
think, and not take the word at its usual "face
value".  *Holocaust* literally means something
like *completely burned*, and was used to refer
to the burning of the bloody remains of a
ritual sacrifice on an altar.  But that is not
the meaning in this context; the political
meaning has come to comprise a complex of
supposed historical events, and this meaning
has taken on such an emotional content that
some people go kind of crazy about it.  Even
some whole countries have gone crazy about it.
The situation has come about that the
"Holocaust" has become a very effective
propaganda support for bizarre and deleterious
political agendas, and that people who
seriously question some aspects of that
"complex" are subjected to harassment,
reprisals, and (in many countries) to criminal
penalties. -- I wanted to raise a little red
flag about the danger of being misled by
prejudiced assumptions and being stampeded by
emotions.

It has been four or five years since I started
discussing Bondarev (and the controversies
around him) on the Web (in Steiner98), and more
recently I had a grueling struggle on the
Waldorf Critics list.  If you want to see more
of my thoughts (including some about the
"Holocaust"), you can follow the thread that
starts here (March 18):
<http://lists.topica.com/lists/waldorf-critics/read/message.html?mid=1720032313&\
sort=d&start=30918>

Also, on the "Anthroposophy Tommorow" e-list I
had a discussion about Bondarev etc., in
several threads, if I recall.  They started
around here (maybe):
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/25898><http://grou\
ps.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/25985>

"Starman" wrote:

>>Also I'd need more information to blandly
accept the aspersion cast on the 7 members of
the Vorstand, that they said this person,
whoever he is, was expelled for anti-Semitism
but they had some other "real reason." I know
several members personally, some for years, and
don't easily believe things said so casually
about them.<<

Robert writes:

I wasn't speaking casually; I have been
puzzling over this for years.  I'll quote
myself:

"The alleged anti-Semitism in Bondarew's book
*Anthroposophie auf der Kreuzung . . .* was
cited in the official statement as the putative
cause of his expulsion from the Dornach
Society.  I say *putative cause* for several
reasons:  There was confusion in that the
official statement was signed by head of the
'Vorstand' of the Society and the head of the
'High School', despite the fact that membership
in the Society and in the High School are not
the same; the criteria for membership are
different.  Also, there is no apparent anti-
Semitism in the book; the expulsion statement
did not cite a single anti-Semitic word.
Further, there was no explanation of why the
authorship of a book should be grounds for
expulsion from a society supposedly dedicated
to cultural freedom.  And -- a somewhat
different explanation for the expulsion was
attributed in a Society publication to MSB:
that the expulsion was also at the request of
the Russian Anthro Society, for its protection
-- but both MSB and the Russian Society later
denied this story.  There is another story
around, that another member of the Dornach
Vorstand, Zimmermann, said that the expulsion
was to prevent a split in the Russian Society.

"That publication was *Das Goetheanum*; No. 48;
Nov. 28, 1999.  The denials were in *Vestnik*;
Easter, 2000.  The 'story' I got from Graham
Rickett."

-- More about this "story", this from
Bondarev's publisher, Willy Lochmann.
Apparently some Tombergians tried to involve
Bondarev in an attempt to set up an alternative
Russian Society, but he refused to co-operate:

"AAG-Ausschluss Bondarews: . . . . Einige
Menschen, die in Russland diese Gegen-
Gesellschaft mit Bondarew als Gallionsfigur
gründen wollten, trafen sich 1998 am Kongress
in Den Haag. Dazu gehören vermutlich Willem
Veltman und definitiv Harrie Salman, der zur
Tomberg-Anhängerschaft zählt. Die Fäden im
Moskau zog ein Mann namens 'Sascha' (an den
Familiennamen kann ich mich nicht mehr sicher
erinnern). Bondarew hatte sich, soweit mir
bekannt ist, strikt geweigert, sich zu
beteiligen. Nachdem er wegen der von der
holländischen Landesgesellschaft erzwungen
Ausladung (siehe: Null-Nummer meines
Rundbriefs: 'Tagebuch der holländischen
Kampagne' - noch nicht im Web) durch Veltman
nicht nach Den Haag reisen konnte, versuchte
ihn Harrie Salman telefonisch zur Beteiligung
zu drängen. Dazu gibt es keinerlei
veröffentlichte Kommentare."

-- The first, most obvious, and most decisive
reason for doubting the "given" explanation for
the expulsion is that there is no "anti-
Semitism" in the book, as was alleged in the
official statement from the Society.  I'll
quote myself again:

"Note that the statement did not cite a single
'anti-Semitic' word from Bondarev, and it did
not mention 'holocaust denial' at all.  But
why, if they really had to say anything, even
erroneous, about the book, did the Vorstand not
just leave it at that:  Bondarev's opinions are
his own and not those of the Society? -- Why
the expulsion?  The original Christmas Society
statutes (now only 'principles') state that
(#9):  'A dogma in any sphere whatsoever shall
be excluded from The General Anthroposophical
Society.'  The expulsion, allegedly based on
opinions expressed in a book, seem to me to be
contrary to the very spirit of Anthroposophy,
which, in our times, is the foremost teacher of
true human freedom.  I say *allegedly*, for I
have to doubt that the stated reason was the
real reason. -- You might want to read my
closely related post on Anthroposophy Tomorrow
for more on this
theme:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/25898>"

-- I was asked for my opinion about the real
reason for the expulsion, and I responded thus:

"Again, I would have to guess.  Maybe it really
did have some connection with the politics of
the Russian Society.  Tension between a
Bondarev faction and a Prokofieff faction?
Maybe some of those CheKa-connected pseudo-
Templars were involved?  Somehow the desire in
Dornach to raise Proky to the heights led to a
drive to stomp Bondy into the dirt?

"Bondy seems to have a way of rubbing a lot of
people the wrong way, and not only Society
apparatchniki.  But it's not out of the
question that those apparatchniki had some hard
feelings about Bondy's criticisms of the way
the Society was being run and by his suggestion
that 'the Society has become a means of
concealing something unknown'.  Perhaps he was
right with this suggestion, and that sinister
'something unknown' used the supposed 'anti-
Semitism' as a pretext to get him out of the
Society?

"Maybe some of all of the above?"

-- Those "pseudo-Templars" were mentioned in
Bondarev's book as having long infiltrated the
Russian Anthro Society.  Apparently, there have
been a lot of strange, sinister goings-on in
and around the Russian Society for a long time,
most recently and conspicuously the violent,
mysterious death of Irina Gordienko.

I will append the text of the official
expulsion statement auf deutsch; you can find
an English translation
here:
<www.waldorfanswers.org/ASonBondaraew.htm>

"Starman" wrote:

>>Also, I know that it takes an awful lot for
the Society to expel someone . . . .<<

Robert writes:

I hope you are aware that, according to the
real, legal statutes of the Society (which are
not those given by Steiner at the Christmas
Conference), the Vorstand can expel any member
for no reason.

"Starman" wrote:

>> . . . however, if he or she is aggrandizing
to themselves the level of spiritual science of
Dr. Steiner while at the same time saying
things in diametric opposition to spirit-
science, well that would do it! But even then
it would take a long time to provoke such a
reaction. They remember the split in the
Society in the 1930s.<<

Robert writes:

There have been other expulsions besides
Bondarev's.  Around 1962 Rudolf Saacke was
expelled with no reason given, but apparently
for raising the "Constitutional Question".  And
in the last few years, since Bondarev, someone
(I don't remember his name) was expelled for,
it seems, expressing the "wrong" opinion on
Swiss immigration; I don't recall the details.

-- I realize that the censorship, official and
unofficial, has been so effective that for many
people the idea that the accepted story of the
"Holocaust" might not be true is the most
unheard-of thing they have ever heard of -- and
that when they hear someone suggest that idea,
they think . . . well, he must be some kind of
Nazi.  And I realize that many Anthros have a
hard time taking seriously the idea that
anything unseemly, much less sinister, might
happen in the rarefied atmosphere of Dornach.
Here is an opportunity to practice one of the
six essential virtues recommended by Steiner:
open-mindedness, impartiality.

This second "idea" is of more special concern
for Anthros than is the first; that first is
more a matter of ordinary, straightforward
historical research, to the extent that such
is possible under the present circumstances.
Unhappily, the controversy over Bondarev's
relation to that first and associated ideas
has largely dominated the discussion about
him, and this has pretty much been the case
for me on the Internet over the past few years.
As I said in my recent Web posting, I would
like to take the focus off this distracting
controversy and direct the focus to the real,
important substance of this book.

Robert Mason
***
From Rudolf Saacke's old website, March 1998
(edit16-p01.htm):***Im Nachrichtenblatt der AAG
mit dem fatalen Datum "8. Februar" 1998 wurde
folgende Mitteilung veröffentlicht:

"Zum Antisemitismus-Vorwurf

In der letzten Zeit wurde, vor allem im Bereich
Basel, die Anthroposophie mit antisemitischen
Tendenzen in Verbindung gebracht.

Selbstverständlich handelt es sich dabei um ein
grundlegendes Mißverständnis. Aus dem Geist und
dem Wesen der Anthroposophie ist es vollkommen
unmöglich, zu irgendwelchen antisemitischen
Äußerungen zu kommen. Die Achtung vor der Würde
eines jeden Menschen und die Anerkennung der
verschiedenen religiösen Wege und Überzeugungen
sind ein Urbaustein anthroposophischer
Menschen- und Welterkenntnis. Wenn einzelne
Menschen, die sich auch mit Anthroposophie
beschäftigen, zu solchen Äußerungen kommen, so
kann das immer nur ein Ausdruck ihrer
persönlichen Meinung sein, niemals aber eine
Äußerung der Anthroposophischen Gesellschaft
oder gar der Anthroposophie selbst.

Eine besondere Rolle spielt in diesem
Zusammenhang das Buch ,Anthroposophie auf der
Kreuzung der okkulten Bewegungen der Gegenwart‘
von Gennadij Bondarew. Darin wird die
Anthroposophie in dieser Hinsicht gravierend
entstellt. Insbesondere enthält die russische
Originalausgabe Passagen, die in der deutschen
Übersetzung weggelassen wurden, die besonders
gravierend sind.

Aufgrund dieser Situation hat sich der Vorstand
entschließen müssen, Herrn Bondarew nicht mehr
als Mitglied der Anthroposophischen
Gesellschaft zu betrachten.

Für das Hochschulkollegium: Dr. Georg Unger

Für den Vorstand am Goetheanum: Manfred
Schmidt-Brabant"
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#3802 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:09 pm
Subject: Calendar of the Soul, Week 15 after Easter
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The "Calendar of the Soul"

       Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of 52
meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.

      These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days.

    Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************

    The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation CANCER from July 21st to August 3rd in our era. A version of
the symbolic image of the CRAB in the original Soul-Calendar, done from
Steiner's sketches & indications, is attached to this electronic mail.

This week's mantra.
      For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
The meaning of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important, but
rather
reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner experience.
Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*  M A N T R A  # 1 5 *
Ich fühle wie verzaubert
Im Weltenschein des Geistes Weben
Es hat in Sinnesdumpfheit
Gehüllt mein Eigenwesen,
Zu schenken mir die Kraft
Die, ohnmächtig sich selbst zu geben,
Mein Ich in seinen Schranken ist.

I feel how enchanted
Into World-Shining is the Spirit's Weaving:
It has in Senses' Dimness
Enclosed my Self-Essence
To give me the Power:
That, powerless myself to give
My "I" in its narrow boundaries is.

       A partial interpretation:  The summer is when we are meant to lose
ourselves in the play of light
and warmth; then, from out of the Spirit revealed in the OUTER world, we are
to find our "selves" again IN the WORLD-Self.
     This week the Spirit we experience through the beauty of the senses in
the outer world enwraps itself around the Ego, which would otherwise be cut
off from the world--- a
"spell" cast over it which we can "unwrap" at Christmastime (the polar
opposite verse to this week's), and through this process give birth to a new
self then.

                   **********************************

       The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday, July 23rd. Moon Cancer.
Apollinaris, School of Peter.
Syrus, Christian Teacher in Justinian's Time.

Monday, July 24th. Moon Leo. New Moon.
Christiana.

Tuesday, July 25th. Moon Leo.
St. Chistopher.

Wednesday, July 26th. Moon Leo.
Anna.

Thursday, July 27th. Moon Virgo.
Martha.

Friday, July 28th. Moon Virgo.
1750 Johann Seb. Bach died.
1794 Robespierre executed.
1804 Philosopher Ludwig Feuerbach born.

Saturday, July 29th. Moon Libra.
Simplicius.
1856 Robert Schumann died.

Dr. Starman



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#3803 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Tue Aug 1, 2006 2:32 am
Subject: Soul-Calendar #16
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The "Calendar of the Soul"

Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of 52
meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.

These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days.

Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************

The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation CANCER from July 21st to August 3rd in our era. A version of
the symbolic image of the CRAB in the original Soul-Calendar, done from
Steiner's sketches & indications, is attached to this electronic mail.

This week's mantra.
For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
The meaning of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important, but
rather
reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner experience.
Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*  M A N T R A  # 1 6 *
Zu bergen Geistgeschenk im Innern,
Gebietet strenge mir mein Ahnen,
Dass reifend Gottesgaben
In Seelengründen fruchtend
Der Selbstheit Früchte bringen.

To save the Spirit-Gifts in my Inner self
Bids me strongly my sensing of the future,
So that those ripening God-gifts
In the Soul’s Ground bearing fruit
The Selfhood's Fruit will bring.

    The summer is when we are meant to lose ourselves in the summer play of
light and warmth, to find ourselves in a different way later in the year;
and
this is just what the past few week's verses have pictured. Now this Spirit
we surrendered to so strongly has wrapped itself about the Ego, planting
seeds we sense will grow towards the future, and as they ripen, our own
abilities will.

**********************************

The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday, July 30th. Moon Libra. Ruth.


Monday, July 31st. Moon Libra. 1472 University of Munich founded.
                   1556 Ignatius von Loyola died. 1886 Franz Liszt died.


Tuesday, August 1st. Moon Scorpio. First Quarter. Macabees. 1744 Natural
Scientist Lamarck born.


Wednesday, August 2nd. Moon Scorpio.  Hannibal. 1832 Olcott born.


Thursday, August 3rd. Moon Sagittarius. 1492 Start of the first Voyage of
Columbus.


Friday, August 4th. Moon Sagittarius.  Dominic (Founder of the Dominican
Order). Josias, King of Judea. Josias, the Prophet. Tertullian. Aristarchus.
1792 the Poet Shelley born.


Saturday, August 5th. Moon Capricorn. 1396 Gutenberg born.


Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

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Date: Thu Aug 3, 2006 8:10 am
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#3805 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Fri Aug 4, 2006 5:15 am
Subject: The Zen of Running
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One of the behavioral characteristics of the astral body is that it
feels no pain.  This inability to experience pain is evidenced by the
fact that our dreams, although they may be emotional, aren't painful
in the physical sense.  There is only mental pain: torment, worry,
grief, distress, etc.  It is only when the astral body unites with
the streams of energy animating the Life Body, or the Etheric Body,
that pain can be experienced.  Otherwise the world that the astral
body lives in is purely subjective, mental and symbolic, in its
self.

The trick to long distance running is to slightly disengage the
astral body from the physical body, loosen it in such a way that the
discomfort, boredom and tediousness of the strenuous exercise no
longer hinders performance.  The runner is, at the point of
disconnect, free---psychologically speaking.  He is running in the
mind.  He is within himself.  Although he is close enough to the
physical body to feel any discomfort, his psychological detachment
from the physical realm allows him to "rise above" the suffering and
to hopefully enjoy the experience of movement.

The problem is that we runners get too good at disengaging the astral-
--and that can be dangerous.  When the runner over exerts himself and
becomes exhausted, he falls into a delirium of sort in which he is
incapable of making rational decisions about his health.  Runners are
well known for destroying their knees and hip joints, or pushing
themselves to the extent that they become dehydrated.   In the
runner's trance, while disconnected from physical body, there is no
pain.  Therefore the runner is not receiving the all-important
warning messages that are surging upward from his Subconscious,
telling him to stop, drink water, rest.



Mathew Morrell
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#3806 From: "Durward Starman" <DrStarman@...>
Date: Sun Aug 6, 2006 6:53 pm
Subject: Soul-Calendar, Week 17
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The "Calendar of the Soul"

      Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar' in 1912, consisting of 52
meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events
occurring within us as well as in Nature during the year, starting with the
first mantra every year on Easter Sunday.

      These mantras for each week are well known to many students of Steiner,
but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be
meditated with each month (to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the
cosmos), plus a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each
night (for sensing the 'lunar' forces), and a list of dates of births and
deaths of spiritual figures and dates of events to contemplate on specific
days.

    Here's the Soul-Calendar restored to its complete form.

**********************************************************

     The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the
constellation LEO from August 4th to September 7th in our era. A version of
the symbolic image of the LION in the original Soul-Calendar, done from
Steiner's sketches & indications, is attached to this electronic mail.

This week's mantra.
      For those not familiar with the use of mantras: The anthroposophic path
uses symbolic images like the Zodiac image ("Imaginations") to awaken
spiritual sight, and mantras ("Inspirations") to begin spiritual hearing.
The meaning of the words of a mantra at first sight is not important, but
rather reciting it and entering with deeper soul-forces into its inner
experience.

    Also, these mantras were created in the German language and have their
rhythms in that, so learning an English version is just a step to using the
original; I've kept close to it in translating, so anyone can easily go from
English to German.

*  M A N T R A  # 1 7 *
Es spricht das Weltenwort,
Das ich durch Sinnestore
In Seelengründen durfte führen:
Erfülle deine Geistestiefen
Mit meinen Weltenweiten,
Zu finden einstens mich in dir.

There speaks the World-Word,
That I through the Senses' Gate
Would let lead to Soul's Ground:
"Fill your Spirit-Deeps
With my World-Widenesses
To find one day Me in you."

A partial interpretation:
      The summer is when we are meant to lose ourselves in the play of light
and warmth, so strong that it dims down the Ego's thinking; then, from out
of
the Spirit revealed in the outer world, we are to find our "selves" again in
the World-Self.
     This week that world speaks to us through the senses' beauty
which we take in to the soul's depths, saying that, as we fill our "I" with
the expanse of the world, its very essence will become something permanently
part of us.

                  **********************************

The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with
some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday, August 6th. Moon Capricorn. Sixtus. Verklarung Christi.

Monday, August 7th. Moon Capricorn. Asra. Cajetan. Donatus. Petrus and
Julianus. Ulrika.

Tuesday, August 8th. Moon Aquarius. Cyriacus. Justinus. Romanus. Eseverus.
Smaragdus. Ladislaus.

Wednesday, August 9th. Moon Aquarius. Full Moon. Cajetan. Ericus.

Thursday, August 10th. Moon Pisces. . Agathe. Laurentius.

Friday, August 11th. Moon Pisces. Alexander. Gottlieb. Hermann. Radegunde.
Susanna. Tiburtius.

Saturday, August 12th. Moon Aries. Clara. Hilaria. Sulpicius.

Dr. Starman

www.DrStarman.com

#3807 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Wed Aug 9, 2006 5:29 am
Subject: Bondarev
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Last month's exchange concerning Bondarev's expulsion from
Anthroposophy was entertaining and intriguing, and I was hoping that
some sort of resolution would arise from a lively debate on the
issues.   The debate never ensued.  Only silence.

I've read some of the Bondarev material that Mason posted on the
Internet, and found it inspiring and evocative in places but not anti-
Semitic.  Nor did I find any material elsewhere on the Internet
showing that Bondarev wrote Holocaust denial propaganda.    That
doesn't mean that Bondarev doesn't propagate these theories.  I just
haven't seen them yet.

The subject fascinates me, admittedly because these theories seem to
make no rational sense whatsoever, yet are propagated by some of
Europe's brightest thinkers.

#3808 From: Robert Mason <robertsmason_99@...>
Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:39 pm
Subject: Emberson article
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To All:

An extract from the book "From Gondhishapur to
Silicon Valley" by Paul Emberson has appeared on
the Web:

<http://www.reclaimyoursoul.org/?mod=articles&act=view&id=the_future_of_black_te\
chnologies>

RM


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#3809 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:12 pm
Subject: Fu Manchu
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Had another whirlwind dream last night.  I won't go into detail, but
in my communications with Satan's animalistic figure I spoke to his
second personified figure.  He said:  Fu Chu Lent.  I wrote down the
words in my journal then went back to sleep.

This afternoon I remembered the words again, and googled them.
Nothing matched.  What I did get, however, was links to sites on Fu
Man Chu.  Before then I had no idea what Fu Man Chu was.  Here is
what I learned.

He is a fictional character.  A master criminal, Fu Manchu works for
the overthrow of Western civilization.  He was featured in a series
of novels by Birmingham author Sax Rohmer during the early years of
the 20th century.

"Imagine a person, tall, lean and feline, high-shouldered, with a
brow like Shakespeare and a face like Satan, a close-shaven skull,
and long, magnetic eyes of the true cat-green. Invest him with all
the cruel cunning of an entire Eastern race, accumulated in one
giant intellect, with all the resources of science past and present,
with all the resources, if you will, of a wealthy government--which,
however, already has denied all knowledge of his existence. Imagine
that awful being, and you have a mental picture of Dr. Fu-Manchu,
the yellow peril incarnate in one man."

-- Nayland Smith to Dr. Petrie,
The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu

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