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#1673 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 7:23 am
Subject: Starman's last address mmorrell1
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Starman's last installment, on art, is posted at the Post.  The link
is below:

http://www.kcpost.net/EastMW_Art.htm

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#1674 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 7:30 am
Subject: on the art of writing mmorrell1
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Anybody, it seems, can produce good writing.  All that is required is
a clear idea of what you want to say.  The clearer the idea the
better, usually, the writing is ---unless, of course, the writer is,
like Dostoyevski, capable of automatic writing.  This is the type of
person who writes as if channeling thought from some un-known source
of knowledge, with little to no pre-writing or revision.  Most of us
must work at producing good writing.  We draw an outline, collect our
thoughts, write, re-write, write, re-write again, ad infinitum.  The
outcome of this most rigorous method is sometimes greater than what
the literary dilettante creates in an unconscious trance.  In
Dostoyevski's case, his novels lack self consciousness; they're
lumpy, un-edited, explosions of creative passion; inspired yes, but
without a certain clarity of thought.  Automatic writing was
convenient for Dostoyevski because he was an undisciplined man almost
always late on submitting his manuscripts to the publisher, or he
would write in a flurry to pay off gambling debts.  He was a
miserable character.  But his works are sublime. . . and rare.
Automatic writing is more often responsible for the kind of pulp that
science-fiction writer Ron L. Hubbard produced for Strange Stories
Magazine:  gibberish barely good enough to be published for $.05
per/word.

Aspiring writer should take heed.  Do not become overly frustrated by
lack of output, because sometimes it can be a blessing.  Some of the
greatest writers have not been naturals.  They've had to work at it
until the day they died.

http://www.kcpost.net/

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#1675 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 7:24 am
Subject: on the art of writing mmorrell1
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Anybody, it seems, can produce good writing.  All that is required is
a clear idea of what you want to say.  The clearer the idea the
better, usually, the writing is ---unless, of course, the writer is,
like Dostoyevski, capable of automatic writing.  This is the type of
person who writes as if channeling thought from some un-known source
of knowledge, with little to no pre-writing or revision.  Most of us
must work at producing good writing.  We draw an outline, collect our
thoughts, write, re-write, write, re-write again, ad infinitum.  The
outcome of this most rigorous method is sometimes greater than what
the literary dilettante creates in an unconscious trance.  In
Dostoyevski's case, his novels lack self consciousness; they're
lumpy, un-edited, explosions of creative passion; inspired yes, but
without a certain clarity of thought.  Automatic writing was
convenient for Dostoyevski because he was an undisciplined man almost
always late on submitting his manuscripts to the publisher, or he
would write in a flurry to pay off gambling debts.  He was a
miserable character.  But his works are sublime. . . and rare.
Automatic writing is more often responsible for the kind of pulp that
science-fiction writer Ron L. Hubbard produced for Strange Stories
Magazine:  gibberish barely good enough to be published for $.05
per/word.

Aspiring writer should take heed.  Do not become overly frustrated by
lack of output, because sometimes it can be a blessing.  Some of the
greatest writers have not been naturals.  They've had to work at it
until the day they died.

Mathew Morrell
http://www.kcpost.net/

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#1676 From: "ronaldsquibbs" <ronsquibbs@...>
Date: Thu May 1, 2003 9:21 pm
Subject: New member introdction ronaldsquibbs
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Hello everyone.

I joined this list yesterday after having found a link to Dr.
Starman's website from the Anthroposophy Yahoo group.

I am a pianist, a professor of music theory, a dervish in a North
American branch of a Turkish Sufi order, and a gay man in a longterm
relationship.

After the 9/11 incident, a composer colleague of mine at the
university where I used to teach was speaking to me about the Saturn-
Pluto opposition that was active at that time and recommended that I
check out The Mountain Astrologer magazine. I did so and some of the
ads in it reminded me of the fact that Dane Rudhyar was not only a
modern composer of at least marginal historical importance but also
an astrologer. I only came to understand afterward how influential he
has been in that field.

Since then I have been collecting recordings of his music, learning
some of his music as a performer, and reading his books and articles.
This has inspired me to learn a little bit about astrology and
Theosophy, about which I am at the very beginning. But even this
little bit has been enough to get some energies to flow more freely
and to cause me to begin to find some new paths as a teacher,
musician, and scholar.

I started exploring anthroposophy online specifically because it was
mentioned in two books I am currently reading, In Quest of Spirit by
the composer Jonathan Harvey and Harmonies of Heaven and Earth by
Joscelyn Godwin. I am interested to learn more about Steiner's
insights on connections between the arts, education and the spiritual
path.

I have a tendency to write infrequently and to mix together too many
topics in my emails, so I'll stop here. I have read the Kansas City
series of articles and plan to comment on them individually, time
permitting.

Peace,

Ron Squibbs

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#1677 From: "LilOleMissy" <lilolemissy@...>
Date: Fri May 2, 2003 2:08 am
Subject: Re: New member introdction lilolemissy@...
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Hello everyone.

I joined this list yesterday after having found a link to Dr.
Starman's website from the Anthroposophy Yahoo group.

I am a pianist, a professor of music theory, a dervish in a North
American branch of a Turkish Sufi order, and a gay man in a longterm
relationship.

After the 9/11 incident, a composer colleague of mine at the
university where I used to teach was speaking to me about the
Saturn-
Pluto opposition that was active at that time and recommended that I
check out The Mountain Astrologer magazine. I did so and some of the
ads in it reminded me of the fact that Dane Rudhyar was not only a
modern composer of at least marginal historical importance but also
an astrologer. I only came to understand afterward how influential
he
has been in that field.

Since then I have been collecting recordings of his music, learning
some of his music as a performer, and reading his books and
articles.
This has inspired me to learn a little bit about astrology and
Theosophy, about which I am at the very beginning. But even this
little bit has been enough to get some energies to flow more freely
and to cause me to begin to find some new paths as a teacher,
musician, and scholar.

I started exploring anthroposophy online specifically because it was
mentioned in two books I am currently reading, In Quest of Spirit by
the composer Jonathan Harvey and Harmonies of Heaven and Earth by
Joscelyn Godwin. I am interested to learn more about Steiner's
insights on connections between the arts, education and the
spiritual
path.

I have a tendency to write infrequently and to mix together too many
topics in my emails, so I'll stop here. I have read the Kansas City
series of articles and plan to comment on them individually, time
permitting.

Peace,

Ron Squibbs

Dear Ron,

A warm welcome to the group! I'm fascinated about your music, since
classical piano has been a life long hobby of mine. You'll find a
very great deal about all your interests as well as many related and
others in Steiner's works, plus knowledge into all facets of
existence I can possibly think of! To be honest, I can't think of a
single thing Steiner hasn't given us indepth knowledge of! It's good
to have you on board.

Best,

Sheila Pickerill

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#1678 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Fri May 2, 2003 2:02 am
Subject: Re: New member introduction durwardstarman
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******Welcome to the group, Ron. I am also a musician and astrologer. I hope you'll feel free to start a conversation here on these topics or any that may interest you.
-Dr. Starman

ronsquibbs@... writes:

Hello everyone.
I joined this list yesterday after having found a link to Dr.
Starman's website from the Anthroposophy Yahoo group.
I am a pianist, a professor of music theory, a dervish in a North
American branch of a Turkish Sufi order, and a gay man in a longterm
relationship.
After the 9/11 incident, a composer colleague of mine at the
university where I used to teach was speaking to me about the Saturn-
Pluto opposition that was active at that time and recommended that I
check out The Mountain Astrologer magazine. I did so and some of the
ads in it reminded me of the fact that Dane Rudhyar was not only a
modern composer of at least marginal historical importance but also
an astrologer. I only came to understand afterward how influential he
has been in that field.
Since then I have been collecting recordings of his music, learning
some of his music as a performer, and reading his books and articles.
This has inspired me to learn a little bit about astrology and
Theosophy, about which I am at the very beginning. But even this
little bit has been enough to get some energies to flow more freely
and to cause me to begin to find some new paths as a teacher,
musician, and scholar.
I started exploring anthroposophy online specifically because it was
mentioned in two books I am currently reading, In Quest of Spirit by
the composer Jonathan Harvey and Harmonies of Heaven and Earth by
Joscelyn Godwin. I am interested to learn more about Steiner's
insights on connections between the arts, education and the spiritual
path.
I have a tendency to write infrequently and to mix together too many
topics in my emails, so I'll stop here. I have read the Kansas City
series of articles and plan to comment on them individually, time
permitting.
Peace,
Ron Squibbs

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#1679 From: "eurythmy" <eurythmy@...>
Date: Sat May 3, 2003 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: Soul Calendar eurythmyfranky
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----- Original Message -----

From: DRStarman2001@...

To: steiner@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 7:48 AM

Subject: Re: [steiner] Soul Calendar

Subject: Re: [steiner] Soul Calendar Edith Bierman announcement

Franky,
Perhaps you could expand on this more. Tell people here what the calendar of the soul is and what eurythmy forms are, etc., for those new to anthroposophy.
-Starman

eurythmy@... writes:

Dear Starman,
I post below an introduction to waht the Calendar is.
As for the "eurythmy forms", in the case of the calendar they are meditaton pictures, that can also be used as choreography on stage.

Franky

******Well, what I meant was something more like this. An important dimension of Anthroposophy is what is usually referred to as the "speech and Eurythmy impulse" within it. A person might approach this from the side of poetry, or from the side of chanting and mantras. Any real poem---I have to say "real", because there's so much drivel that passes as poetry today---is "heard" rather than thought out. You will hear great musicians describe the same thing about where their music comes from. Music and poetry are MOVEMENTS of the soul and spirit. Something which is clairvoyantly perceptible actually moves when a poem or a piece of music is created. There are definite movements of the astral and etheric bodies. To 'feel' the piece of music or the poem, a person has to make similar movements of his own astral and etheric bodies.

     This is the origin of mantras. Initiates used to create mantras knowing just what movements they would create in their pupils when these were recited. The art of Eurythmy was initiated by Rudolf Steiner out of the same knowledge that sacred dance was created from, the knowledge of these astral and etheric forms. In Eurythmy,the entire human body traces these forms; in the allied art of Speech Formation, what the entire body does is done instead by the voice. Dr. Steiner gave out numerous indications to the first eurythmists and to the first people working with creative speech, about the gestures that underlie each sound, the vibration or color that occurs in the astral world when each one is sounded, the gestures that precede all sound in the silent world, those which follow it, etc.

   A mantra thus involves using your entire being. We must learn to breathe and speak a different way to use one aloud. Of course you can recite one silently, but even then it has a certain movement and rhythm. Some years after he gave out these fifty-two mantras called the the calendar of the soul, Steiner gave to the eurythmists "Eurythmy forms" for each of the 52 mantras. So, these are a way of experiencing a mantra through making visible the inner astral and etheric body movements which occur when the mantra is chanted.

   Just as this art can be used to experience what really lived in the soul of a poet when he created a poem or a musician when he created a piece of music, so these mantras---created from the spiritual world, embodying movements of the astral and etheric bodies--- can be experienced on an entirely other level through speech and Eurythmy.

   What Franky has been posting are the Eurythmy forms for each mantra, along with the indications about color (for use, for instance, in stage lighting, as well as determining the color of the 'veils' of the performers). One may need to a little bit of exposure to Eurythmy to work with these, but hopefully these words will be a little bit of help for people seeing them for the first time and trying to understand what they are. Perhaps Franky, you could send the forms for mantra No. 2 again, since this is the second week after Easter? Then anyone working with this week's mantra could see the movements choreographed line by line.

-Starman

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#1680 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Mon May 5, 2003 1:05 am
Subject: Soul-Calendar, Week 3 durwardstarman
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�� The "Calendar of the Soul"

� Dr. Steiner gave out 52 meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events occurring within and without during the year, starting with the first at Easter. These are well known to anthroposophists--- but the original "Calendar of the Soul" also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be meditated with each month to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the cosmos in the day, a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each night for sensing the 'lunar' forces, and a list of saints and other spiritual figures connected with specific days.
�� Here's the whole 'Soul-Calendar' restored to its original use.

* M A N T R A # 3 *
Es spricht zum Weltenall,
Sich Selbst vergessend
Und seines Urstands eingedenk,
Des Menschen wachsend Ich:
In dir, befreiend nich,
Aus meiner Eigenheiten Fessel,
Ergrund ich mein echtes Wesen.

There speaks to the World-All,
Of Self forgetful
And of its Primal state one in thinking,
Man's waxing "I":
' In you, freeing me
From my Selfhood's chains,
I penetrate to my true Essence. '

   The spring is the time when we change from an inner "self-consciousness" to outer "nature-consciousness". Verse 1 (we always start at Easter) spoke of how the Sun and the Growth in the outer world of Nature spoke to our senses and joined us to the Spirit that calls forth this new life--- verse 2 of how our thinking loses its separated existence by joining with the senses, the plants springing forth and so on.

   This week continues the theme of 'forgetting oneself': the first 4 lines
point to a distinction, so to speak, between self and Self, or the little ego
and the True Self: the true "I" within us now seeks to 'speak' to the
World-All, forgetful of the everyday 'self'. This means the Primal
Individuality we have within. In using these first 4 lines one should feel
these two 'selves' distinctly different, should feel this deep True Self is
now connecting with the World, forgetful of the everyday self.

   In doing so, that true Primal Self 'speaks' the last 3 lines to the
World: one should recite these with the real feeling of speaking them to the
World-All. In you, freeing me from my selfhood's chains (meaning the little
'self'), I penetrate (dig down deep into) my True Essence (Being, Self---I
use 'essence' because the German word 'Wesen' is the source of it).

�� **********************************
�� The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of TAURUS from May 1st to June 15th in our era. A symbolic image of the Bull done from Steiner's sketches & indications is inserted below,

�� The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday,�May 4th. Moon Gemini.��Monica, mother of Augustine dies 387 A.D.

Monday,� May 5th. Moon Cancer.�Columbus discovers America 1492.

Tuesday,� May 6th. Moon Cancer.� John, writer of the Gospel and the Apocalypse.

Wednesday, May 7th. Moon Leo.�Gottfried.

Thursday, May 8th. Moon Leo. The Prophet Micah. H.P. Blavatsky died 1891.

Friday,�May 9th. Moon Leo. First Quarter. Schiller died 1805.

Saturday,�May 10th.�Moon Virgo. Gordian.

P.S. The Moon will appear close to the planet Saturn Sunday night and near Jupiter Thursday and Friday nights.

The verse for the Southern Hemisphere for this week:

* M A N T R A # 2 8 *

Ich kann in Innern neu belebt
Erf�hlen eignen Wesens Weiten
Und kraftef�llt Gedankenstrahlen
Aus Seelensonnenmacht
Den Lebensr�tseln l�send spenden,
Erf�llung manchem Wunsche leihen,
Dem Hoffnung schon die Schwingen l�hmte.

I can in Inner newly alive
Feel my own Essence widen
And power-filled Thinking-rays
Out of Soul's Sun-Might
Life-Riddles loosening giving,
Lending fulfillment to many Wishes
That before even the Hope for had its wings lamed.

Dr. Starman

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#1681 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Mon May 5, 2003 7:17 pm
Subject: The Rosicrucian Path durwardstarman
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*******I thought people here might find interesting a discussion we just had on the 'Anthroposophy' list (which usually has very little Anthroposophy on it, mostly politics or a person's alleged "channeling"). It started when someone asked if there was an anthroposophical angle on Christianity, and, incredibly, got no real answer. So I answered:

*******We know from Anthroposophy that there are three paths to the spirit--- the old yogic one, the Christian devotional one, and the modern "Rosicrucian" one. The Christian devotional one was a path of feeling, a path of initiation with the thinking left out.� It is no longer appropriate for most modern-day humans. The modern one has to do with science, objective knowledge, and the will. It involves thinking exercises, CONSCIOUS feeling exercises and exercising the will.

Now, a person following this path eventually has an encounter with a being which, if he has a Christian upbringing, he will quickly recognize as the Christ. (If he does not, he may call it by another name.) See, for instance, Steiner's lecture " The Death of a God And Its Fruits in Humanity"� of May 5th 1912.

� So the "anthroposophic angle" on the Christ Being is that it is an objective reality which a spiritual scientist contacts, and which contact can be induced by a specific path of training rather than left to luck. When following this training, we also learn to distinguish the true spiritual reality from false copies, and we also find that there are "false Christs" or in other words phantom images of the real one, which certain erroneous spiritual paths induce, as can be seen in many 'Christian' churches today. One can distinguish these from the real one with training as easily as the eye distinguishes red from blue.

�� Our "anthroposophical angle" is thus rather like ours could be said to be on painting--- in that, while many people just jump into painting and do it by pure irrational feeling with no thinking involved, doing nothing consciously, a painter pursuing painting as a spiritual path through Anthroposophy accompanies his Will and feeling with clear thinking about darkness in front of light, light in front of darkness, warm and cool colors, etc. What is produced is the result of training and conscious action.

Similarly, what a spiritual scientist says about Buddha or Christ does not come from the realm of blind faith, but of knowledge, arrived at by specific exercises as part of a comprehensive training. Once this is achieved, insight may be gained into old religious traditions, which merely passing on the traditions without this knowledge does not include.

The questioner on the list then responded:

Thanks for this clear explanation.� What is the Rosicrucian path by the way?� and are there any Anthroposophists now or passed who accomplished what Steiner did; and if not, why hasn't this path produced more initiates and seers that can continue his visionary work?

*******The "Rosicrucian" path is what Steiner outlines in Knowledge of the Higher Worlds, using definite experimental exercises with plants, crystals, sound etc. Few do more than read this book, that's the reason. Doing the exercises is the only thing that can cause changes in the astral and etheric bodies, not merely reading about them.

Nowadays many people say they are studying spiritual science but they have never done any of these, whereas Steiner's direct pupils would be told to perform these to acheive specific results they wanted, and so they did. If spiritual science was just Rudolf Steiner, it would never have survived him, but actually he initiated a large group of pupils---Ehrenfried Pfeiffer, Eugen Kolisko, Carl Unger, Elizabeth Vreede, Walter Johannes Stein, and many others. They did not get as far as Steiner, but each made achievements in his or her own right.

�� Unfortunately, Anthroposophy does not work in inducing higher knowledge so long as one only takes it in with the speculative intellect, and too many people do only that. It's something that needs to be taken up as a way of life, with the whole being, including, for instance, using the very personal forces we move our bodies with. Many people also confuse it with other half-conscious or subconscious paths, like Eastern or pagan ones, because they want to abandon reason. This path is not one like that: it's constantly directed by your conscious rational mind. Not taking it up enough, or taking up in a wrong way, is the reason for the poor results often exhibited.

That led to the following questions:
>>Could you explain more what you mean in the above statement ("something that needs to be taken up as a way of life, with the whole being, including, for instance, using the very personal forces we move our bodies with") ??

*******Sure, just as priests dedicate their entire bodies to performing a ritual, or athletes will adopt an 'ascetic' way of life to prepare for a competition, or a dancer will dedicate her entire being to her art, so the pursuit of spiritual science involves not only the head, but must go into the whole of life--- all your deeds, one by one.� You can't take it up only with the intellect and leave aside how you speak, the things you do in daily life, etc. It has to work into and transform all the layers of your being. Your every word and gesture has to be thought through and performed from out of your study, as in performing a ritual. Steiner said that in the future, a scientist working at his laboratory table would come to regard it as it his altar. for instance.

>>Since I have some experience with Yoga and Zen, I am not quite clear about what you mean here ("half-conscious or subconscious paths, like Eastern or pagan ones"). The wakefulness "exercises" in Zen and Vapassina meditation demand a high degree of conscious attention and not falling asleep. It is an active/passive observing process. It is certainly not semi conscious. In fact, during these practices, psychic experiences are common with lights being seen, color phenomena, etc. but its rarely talked about. Buddhism is highly reasonable and logical in its own way. The question I have then- why is reason so often considered the enemy of consciousness and spiritual work by virtually every other path?

*******There are what I meant by 'Eastern' paths and then there are some that have combined� their older elements with more modern, Western consciousness. I meant the ones that negate the use of the intellect and instead focus on breathing and other subconscious processes of the body,

�� The reason was often stated by Steiner, that these ancient Asian paths worship� the life forces-- which we once had the use of before the modern intellect came into being. Their traditions recall a time when we had the use of these forces, and then what they perceived as 'lower' intellectual knowledge arose-- and therefore they teach that this has to be put aside in order to get the other back.

�� But the path of spiritual science involves changing the abstract intellect into a LIVING thinking, one which will not block the life forces, but rather lets them through. Some paths have this understanding that one's awareness must be increased, as anthroposophy does, while others go around consciousness and use subconscious stuff. We know that this opens you up to the influence of lower beings.

>>The conventional reasoning process does not do well with experiences that "defy"

reason at times ( like having a clear sense of separation of the "self" from the physical body.This form of spiritual discrimination is part of all paths, it seems.

******But actually pure thinking, reasoning about whatever you observe, IS carried over into the body-free state. It's a falsehood that our thinking is only good for sense-perceptible objects: it is good for anything observed, through any senses, including those of the soul and the spirit. When the self is separated from the physical body, it does indeed use reason--- only pure reason, pure thinking, as in mathematics and geometry, not the mere 'having of thought-images' that most people use in daily life, which is dependent on the body.

And the questioner then responded:

>>That was great ( about the Rosicrucian Path and the blending of East and West in some "eastern approaches" now in use. But I have a question about this below.Can you or Steiner or someone else describe exactly how pure thinking and reason are actually experienced in the the out of body condition. Do we think and form words like here on earth? Descriptions I have run across state that as "travelers" think, it instantly manifests around them. Telepathy is natural and seeing the reading the minds of others equally so.
What is your knowledge here? How do we learn to "think" and reason in this new state?

*******Pure thinking is the same. Even most mathematicians here are on earth are able to stay in such a state of pure thinking for only brief periods of time, unfortunately; but it IS thinking with the human spirit you are doing then, and this is the same as your consciousness when the spirit is outside of the body. What it's conscious OF is what changes, and it changes depending on the plane of consciousness you go to. It's not experienced in words, but in pure thinking, which is "behind" words, so to speak.

�� Mathematical thinking is self-regulating, that is, nothing outside of my self forces me to recognize the truth of straight lines or triangles: I have this desire for truth, and recognition that I must think truthfully in order to attain it, as my inner guide. Similarly, when you have an inner need for truthfulness in your thinking--- as opposed to an egotistic need to have whatever you have to say paid attention to, regardless of whether it's correct or not (as most human beings in the present manifest before they start on the path of initiation)---this habit of checking your thinking and making sure it is correct is carried into your soul and spirit organism. Since it's an inner habit, it applies to your thinking regardless of the OBJECT.

�� On the first plane you enter when you become free of the body, this is all-important, because there you find what you describe, namely that, whatever you think immediately appears to take form all around you. It's been called the Plane of Illusion; I call it the plane of wishful thinking. Fantasy has its origin here. In order to pass through it you have to be conscious that you are creating the fantasies, have to see through them to the part of you that is creating them. This is one of the reasons why art is so important on the spiritual path. Where most artists will simply picture whatever archetypes live in their consciousness, however, instead you must learn to see the archetypes themselves, and you see them as beings which are, so to speak, THINKING IN YOU. This is why objectivity, being able to stand apart from your own thinking, is required. You see what can be called the "thought beings" that ordinarily manifest through your thinking. You experience thinking as something happening in you, not something you do personally. You could say that you find out that you have never been a single unitary being, but rather the intersection of many planes, that other beings live within you.

�� This is how other beings are experienced once you are able to pass through this plane of illusion, not as beings outside of you, but that they are within you and you are within them--- if you have done the exercises to strengthen the ego and your feeling of sympathy with others to the point where you can allow your self to experience them without losing yourself. Communication with other beings is experienced as coming from within, not from without. Naturally, once again, the resisting of illusions is all-important, because it's always possible to make fantasy images appear to speak (as in the case of so-called 'mystics' with their 'visions' which, strangely, always just happen to confirm the person's religious dogmas!). It's difficult to put into words what experiences are like on the second and third planes, where the dead can be contacted, for instance, but it's what Steiner is hinting at when he says that a person in his life was supposed to write something, but he didn't and now Steiner is "writing it for him". You contact the creative essence of a person, not just their outer personality. It involves deep levels of yourself and is a very intimate matter, which is why I seldom speak of it, but I recognize what Steiner meant because I have passed through my own experience of it. Remember, we are not only intellects, but powerful will-drives, so communication with other beings is not just like 'hearing their thoughts'.

�� In fact, thoughts themselves are experienced completely differently when out of the body. One way I could express it is that instead of, "I'm thinking this thought", you experience "This thought being wants to think in me." And rather as you recognize someone else is also an American or an English-speaking person, you will recognize that this or that thought being also is speaking in another person. Persons are seen to be the channels for thought beings, to be, so to speak, "possessed" by them. This is all to be found in Dr. Steiner's lectures, but you need to walk the path in order to recognize what he was experiencing. When he spoke, it was these very creative thought beings speaking through him. They are a source that you contact, with your whole being. See, for example, the lectures on "Occult Reading and Occult Hearing" and the ones on "Human and Cosmic Thought."

�� For people just beginning, what I recommend are the thinking exercises, like the 'Ruckschau' or daily review of your actions, along with simply recording your dreams. Don't speculate on their meanings, but simply start be able to remember "I experienced this, I remember observing that." I have found that materialism is progressing so far that many people cannot even remember their dream experiences (which are your first, undisciplined experiences of the astral plane). As you take up esoteric training, your self-consciousness which is having your dreams will begin to change their character, and until that happens, their content is not worth very much in itself (see the chapter on "Transformation of Dream Life" in Knowledge of the Higher Worlds)--- but I meet so many people that have no recall whatsoever of even the tiniest fraction of their "nightly journey" on the astral plane these days that I have to emphasize the importance of doing so. Modern man has been cut off from his intuitive mind, the mind of the soul, but all of us still have that as a starting point every night, among others.

Hoping we may have some similar discussions here on the Steiner list.
-Starman

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#1682 From: "ronaldsquibbs" <ronsquibbs@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2003 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: The Rosicrucian Path ronaldsquibbs
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Dr. Starman,

Thank you for re-posting this here. I believe I had skimmed it when
it appeared in a digest from the Anthroposophy group along with some
other stuff. Having it here on its own made it easier to give it more
attention.

> �� Our "anthroposophical angle" is thus rather like ours could be
said to be
> on painting--- in that, while many people just jump into painting
and do it
> by pure irrational feeling with no thinking involved, doing nothing
> consciously, a painter pursuing painting as a spiritual path
through
> Anthroposophy accompanies his Will and feeling with clear thinking
about
> darkness in front of light, light in front of darkness, warm and
cool colors,
> etc. What is produced is the result of training and conscious
action.

This passage brought up several thoughts. One thought is that, when
it comes to "spiritual" pursuits, all thoughts of artistic quality
and intelligent perceptions seem to go out the window. One is either
okay with the naive and mediocre or one is not with the program. This
is something that has kept me at some distance from newer movements
in favor of more "classical" spiritual paradigms, and has also led me
to keep my artistic and intellectual interests separate from my
spiritual ones.

What I feel is being asked of me now is a deeper integration between
these aspects so that, hopefully, my teaching (as a university music
professor) can become a more organic expression of myself rather than
something stressful and disappointing from which I need to escape in
mostly solitary intellectual, artistic, and spiritual pursuits. In my
previous location there was a beautiful spiritual group with which I
had frequent contact. This did become a refuge from the insanity of
modern academia. But since relocating and not having such easy
opportunities for contact with a suitable spiritual group, I feel
that I really need to integrate the abovementioned aspects more
thoroughly since I don't have the comfort of such a group to rely
upon.

The remarks above on painting seem to reinforce my idea that the
pursuit of artistic quality involves spiritual discernment and
refinement. Evaluations of artistic viability are not "merely
subjective" (as many of my students like to claim when they're not
willing to reach out beyond their lowest selves) but there is a
quality of being focused that contributes positively to the
satisfaction of the artist and which communicates in a subtle way to
the observer or audience.

> �� For people just beginning, what I recommend are the thinking
exercises,
> like the 'Ruckschau' or daily review of your actions, along with
simply
> recording your dreams. Don't speculate on their meanings, but
simply start be
> able to remember "I experienced this, I remember observing that."

Are the Ruckschau exercises related to the daily themes that are
posted on the Steiner e.Lib site? Is there a written source that
contains all of those exercises?

Thanks,

Ron

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#1684 From: "Lutz Baar" <info@...>
Date: Wed May 7, 2003 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: The Rosicrucian Path antrolutz
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--- In steiner@yahoogroups.com, "ronaldsquibbs" <ronsquibbs@s...>
wrote:
> Are the Ruckschau exercises related to the daily themes that are
> posted on the Steiner e.Lib site? Is there a written source that
> contains all of those exercises?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron

Here is one aspect on R�ckschau (imaging things backwards)from GA
170, Ron! Greetings, Lutz.

"In 'Knowledge of the Higher Worlds' you are advised to imagine
things backwards from time to time, to review things backwards. A
backwards review involves picturing events as if they proceeded in
the opposite direction from that in which they proceed in our normal
world. Among other things, this picturing backwards gradually builds
the spiritual forces that make one capable of entering a world that
is the wrong way round when compared with the physical world. That
is how the spiritual world is.

"It reverses many aspects of the physical world. I have often
pointed out to you that it is not simply a matter of abstractly
turning around what is in the physical world; among the powers that
one needs to develop are the powers connected with the ability to
imagine backwards. What is the consequence of this? Those people who
do not want to see human culture dry up and who are trying to
achieve a spiritually illumined view of the world are eventually
forced to imagine a world in reverse.

"For spiritual consciousness only begins when the life processes or
the sense processes are reversed and run backwards. Therefore people
need to prepare for the future by getting accustomed to thinking
backwards. Then they will begin to take hold of the spiritual world
through this thinking backwards, just as they take hold of the
physical world by means of thinking forwards. Our ability to imagine
the physical world is a result of the direction of our thinking.

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#1685 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Thu May 8, 2003 1:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: The Rosicrucian Path durwardstarman
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In a message dated 5/7/2003 9:18:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ronsquibbs@... writes:

> For people just beginning, what I recommend are the thinking
exercises,
>like the 'Ruckschau' or daily review of your actions, along with
simply
>recording your dreams. Don't speculate on their meanings, but
simply start be
>able to remember "I experienced this, I remember observing that."

Are the Ruckschau exercises related to the daily themes that are
posted on the Steiner e.Lib site? Is there a written source that
contains all of those exercises?

*******The "ruckschau" ("look-back") is an exercise you do at the end of each day, where you review the actions of your day in reverse order. It's easy to see how reviewing your actions each day would help with being more mindful of what you do; but you do it in reverse order for two reasons. First, it requires more inner strength to recall events in the OPPOSITE sequence from the way the world gave them to you, and, second, time flows 'backwards' on the astral plane, relative to the physical plane. This is why this exercise improves your dream recall, because you experience dreams on the astral plane.

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#1686 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Sat May 10, 2003 2:23 am
Subject: The Wizard of OZ. Lucifer? mmorrell1
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Dear Forum,

Lately, there's been a lotta tornadic activity in Kansas, where I
live.  A couple tornadoes touched down in the area around Kansas City
yesterday, and last weekend they were all over the place, over-
turning cars, blowing down houses, tearing off roofs, even lifting a
full grown horse up into the boughs of hardwood tree.  Tornadoes
behave as though they're juvenile delinquints, or like giant
luciferic spirits whirling chaotically through the etheric plane.
Still, to this day, scientists cannot figure out the inner-dynamic of
a tornado. It behooves them.  Tornadoes remain nature's mystery.

Anyone have any ideas on tornadoes?

Mathew Morrell

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#1687 From: "LilOleMissy" <lilolemissy@...>
Date: Sat May 10, 2003 4:18 am
Subject: Re: The Wizard of OZ. Lucifer? lilolemissy@...
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Subject: [steiner] The Wizard of OZ. Lucifer?


> Dear Forum,
>
> Lately, there's been a lotta tornadic activity in Kansas, where I
> live.  A couple tornadoes touched down in the area around Kansas City
> yesterday, and last weekend they were all over the place, over-
> turning cars, blowing down houses, tearing off roofs, even lifting a
> full grown horse up into the boughs of hardwood tree.  Tornadoes
> behave as though they're juvenile delinquints, or like giant
> luciferic spirits whirling chaotically through the etheric plane.
> Still, to this day, scientists cannot figure out the inner-dynamic of
> a tornado. It behooves them.  Tornadoes remain nature's mystery.
>
> Anyone have any ideas on tornadoes?
>
> Mathew Morrell

Dear Mathew,

There are others who know far more than I about such things and I hope they
will  bring guidance. It seems to me somewhere Steiner speaks of Woton as
the ruler or power controlling the winds? As a child growing up in New
Orleans, my mother often lulled our fears of hurricanes and other severe
storms with tales of this being.  I never saw a funnel cloud wrecking havoc
until I was an adult in South Dakota and it seemed to me as I watched, a
very distinct feeling of true evil pervaded the seemingly living black
monsterous entity even before I was able to hear the other-wordly (to me)
speech of its destruction. Here in California we have earthquakes, which
Steiner, unless I'm mistaken, spoke of as emanating from the 8th sphere due
to mans' passions. This latter may be in his *At the Gates of Sp. Sc.* but I
am not certain. My home stradles the San Andreas fault with my hill rising 3
feet vertically during the Loma Prieta Quake of 1989, but I sensed none of
the evil I felt so clearly in those ghastly funnel clouds now bringing your
area and others so much grief.

Blessings,

Sheila

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#1688 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Sun May 11, 2003 3:09 am
Subject: Calendar of the Soul, Week 4 durwardstarman
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�� The "Calendar of the Soul"

� Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar', 52 meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events occurring within and without during the year, starting at Easter. These are well known to anthroposophists--- but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be meditated with each month to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the cosmos in the day, a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each night for sensing the 'lunar' forces, and a list of saints and other spiritual figures connected with specific days.
�� Here's the whole 'Soul-Calendar' restored to its original use.

* M A N T R A # 4 *
Ich f�hle Wesen meines Wesens:
So spricht Empfindung,
Die in der sonnerhellten Welt
Mit Lichtesfluten sich vereint;
Sie will dem Denken
Zur Klarheit W�rme schenken
Und Mensch und Welt
In Einheit fest verbinden.

"I feel the essence of my essence":
So speaks Sensation,
That in the sun-illumined World
With flooding light becomes one;
It will join warmth
To Thinking's Clarity,
And Man and World
In oneness bind fast together.

*******Our thinking is drawn out by our senses, to find our connection to the cosmos. The returning light makes us feel our essence is similar to it, and , as we join our THINKING to the SENSES, we re-unite it with the world.

�� **********************************
�� The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the constellation TAURUS from May 1st to June 15th in our era. A symbolic image of the BULL done from Steiner's sketches & indications is inserted below,

� The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday,�May 11th. Moon Virgo.�Otto von Guernicke (inventor of the air-pump) died 1686.�

Monday,� May 12th. Moon Libra. Pancratius.

Tuesday,� May 13th. Moon Libra. Carl von Linne born 1707. Cuvier (the great natural scientist) died 1832.

Wednesday, May 14th. Moon Scorpio. Boniface. Ludwig Bechstein died 1860.

Thursday, May 15th. Moon Scorpio. Full Moon. Torquatus Antonius, prophet in 15th century.

Friday,�May 16th. Moon Sagittarius. Sarah. Suzanne.

Saturday,�May 17th.�Moon Sagittarius. Bruno Magnus, Russian Apostle of the 11th century.

*******The full moon Thursday night will also feature a lunar eclipse.

The verse for the Southern Hemisphere for this week:
* M A N T R A # 2 9 *

Sich selbst des Denkens leuchten
Im Innern kraftvoll zu entfachen,
Erlebtes sinnvoll deutend
Aus Weltengeistes Kr�ftequell,
Ist mir nun Sommererbe
Ist Herbstesruhe und auch Winterhoffnung.

The Glowing Light of Thinking
Within oneself powerfully to enkindle,
Life's meaningfulness interpreting
Out of the World-Spirit's Power-Source,
Is to me Summer's inheritance,
Is Fall's Rest and also Winter's Hope.

Dr. Starman

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#1689 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Sun May 11, 2003 8:01 pm
Subject: Date of Crucifixion durwardstarman
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Astronomers 'pinpoint time and date of crucifixion and resurrection'
Two Romanian astronomers say their research shows Christ died at 3pm on a Friday, and rose again at 4am on a Sunday.
Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu claim to have pinpointed the exact time and date of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection.The pair, from the Astronomic Observatory Institute in Cluj, Romania, say Jesus died at 3pm on Friday, April 3, 33 AD, and rose again at 4am on Sunday, April 5.
They used a computer programme to check biblical references against historical astronomical data.
They said the New Testament stated that Jesus died the day after the first night with a full moon, after the vernal equinox.Using data gathered on the stars between 26 and 35 AD they established that in those nine years, the first full moon after the vernal equinox was registered on a Friday only twice - on Friday, April 7, 30 AD, and on Friday, April 3, 33 AD.
They were convinced the date of the crucifixion was 33 AD, and not 30 AD, because records showed a solar eclipse, as depicted in the Bible at the time of Jesus' crucifixion, occurred in Jerusalem that year.

Story filed: 11:33 Thursday 8th May 2003

*******Interesting story because, as some of you may know, Steiner said that April 3rd, 33 AD was the true death day of Jesus.

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#1690 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 6:19 am
Subject: The Doctor's Last Address mmorrell1
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Dear Group,

Finally got the Doctor's last address posted at the Kansas City
Post.  The link to his article is:

http://www.kcpost.net/EastMW_Rosicrucian.htm

Now that the war is over I started posting material having to do with
non-political, bizzare, grotesque, subject matter.

Mathew Morrell
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#1691 From: "Lutz Baar" <info@...>
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 7:11 am
Subject: Re: Date of Crucifixion antrolutz
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You will find these calculations already in the book "Chronical of the Living Christ" by Robert Powell from 1996.

He sets the day of death to Friday, April 3, A.D. 33 ( as Steiner does in his Kalender from 1912/13, entry: April 3.) and the resurrection at dawn on Easter Sunday, April 5, A.D. 33 - exactly 33 1/3 years less 1 1/2 days after the birth of Jesus just before midnight on Saturday/Sunday, December 6/7, 2 B.C. (page 352)

Lutz

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Subject: [steiner] Date of Crucifixion

Astronomers 'pinpoint time and date of crucifixion and resurrection'
Two Romanian astronomers say their research shows Christ died at 3pm on a Friday, and rose again at 4am on a Sunday.
Liviu Mircea and Tiberiu Oproiu claim to have pinpointed the exact time and date of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection.The pair, from the Astronomic Observatory Institute in Cluj, Romania, say Jesus died at 3pm on Friday, April 3, 33 AD, and rose again at 4am on Sunday, April 5.
They used a computer programme to check biblical references against historical astronomical data.
They said the New Testament stated that Jesus died the day after the first night with a full moon, after the vernal equinox.Using data gathered on the stars between 26 and 35 AD they established that in those nine years, the first full moon after the vernal equinox was registered on a Friday only twice - on Friday, April 7, 30 AD, and on Friday, April 3, 33 AD.
They were convinced the date of the crucifixion was 33 AD, and not 30 AD, because records showed a solar eclipse, as depicted in the Bible at the time of Jesus' crucifixion, occurred in Jerusalem that year.

Story filed: 11:33 Thursday 8th May 2003

*******Interesting story because, as some of you may know, Steiner said that April 3rd, 33 AD was the true death day of Jesus.

Dr. Starman
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#1692 From: churchinnerlight@...
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 11:20 am
Subject: Re: Date of Crucifixion churchinnerl...
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In a message dated 5/12/2003 3:17:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes:

You will find these calculations already in the book "Chronical of the Living Christ" by Robert Powell from 1996.
He sets the day of death to Friday, April 3, A.D. 33 ( as Steiner does in his Kalender from 1912/13, entry: April 3.) and the resurrection at dawn on Easter Sunday, April 5, A.D. 33 - exactly 33 1/3 years less 1 1/2 days after the birth of Jesus just before midnight on Saturday/Sunday, December 6/7, 2 B.C. (page 352)

But I don't know where Powell got a Dec. 7th birth day from, or 2 B.C.

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#1693 From: "Lutz Baar" <info@...>
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 3:44 pm
Subject: Re: Date of Crucifixion antrolutz
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Hi James,

according to Anne Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824) the birth took place on Kislev 12 in 2 B.C. which matches dec.7, 2 B.C. in our calendar.

Lutz

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In a message dated 5/12/2003 3:17:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, info@... writes:

You will find these calculations already in the book "Chronical of the Living Christ" by Robert Powell from 1996.
He sets the day of death to Friday, April 3, A.D. 33 ( as Steiner does in his Kalender from 1912/13, entry: April 3.) and the resurrection at dawn on Easter Sunday, April 5, A.D. 33 - exactly 33 1/3 years less 1 1/2 days after the birth of Jesus just before midnight on Saturday/Sunday, December 6/7, 2 B.C. (page 352)

But I don't know where Powell got a Dec. 7th birth day from, or 2 B.C.

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#1694 From: churchinnerlight@...
Date: Mon May 12, 2003 12:01 pm
Subject: Re: Date of Crucifixion churchinnerl...
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>>according to Anne Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824) the birth took place on Kislev 12 in 2 B.C. which matches dec.7, 2 B.C. in our calendar.

Lutz

     But why is she being accepted as an authority? Who is she?
    The Edgar Cayce Readings said Jesus was born about March 19th, but one calendar change (adopting the Julian calendar) made the date into Dec. 25th, and then a second (changing to the Gregorian) made it Jan. 6th---or maybe it was vice versa, Starman? (He gave us a talk about this.) But I've never heard anyone claim an early December date. The shepherds had their sheep out in the fields, which they don't do in the winter. The lambing season is the spring time.
                                                                  Rev. Jim

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#1695 From: Faxmail Gateway <social_artist@...>
Date: Wed May 14, 2003 5:02 pm
Subject: Re: Date of Crucifixion social_artist
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It would also depend upon which birth one is tracking,
yes?


--- churchinnerlight@... wrote:
>
>
> > >>according to Anne Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824)
> the birth took place on
> > Kislev 12 in 2 B.C. which matches dec.7, 2 B.C. in
> our calendar.
> >
> > Lutz
> >
> >
>      But why is she being accepted as an authority?
> Who is she?
>     The Edgar Cayce Readings said Jesus was born
> about March 19th, but  one
> calendar change (adopting the Julian calendar) made
> the date into Dec. 25th,
> and then a second (changing to the Gregorian) made
> it Jan. 6th---or maybe it
> was vice versa, Starman? (He gave us a talk about
> this.) But I've never heard
> anyone claim an early December date. The shepherds
> had their sheep out in the
> fields, which they don't do in the winter. The
> lambing season is the spring
> time.
>
>              Rev. Jim
>


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#1696 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Sun May 18, 2003 11:26 pm
Subject: Calendar of the Soul, Week 5 durwardstarman
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�� The "Calendar of the Soul"

� Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar', 52 meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events occurring within and without during the year, starting at Easter. These are well known to anthroposophists--- but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be meditated with each month to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the cosmos in the day, a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each night for sensing the 'lunar' forces, and a list of saints and other spiritual figures connected with specific days.
�� Here's the whole 'Soul-Calendar' restored to its original use.

*MANTRA #5*
Im Lichte, das aus Gesistestiefen
In Raume fruchtbar webend
Der G�tter Schaffen offenbart:
In ihm erscheint der Seele Wesen
Geweitet zu dem Weltensein
Und auferstanden
Aus enger Selbstheit Innenmacht.

In Light, that out of Spirit-Deeps
Weaves in Space bearing its fruit,
The Gods' Shaping is revealed :
In it shines the Soul's Essence
Widened to the World-Existence
And resurrected
Out of narrow Selfhood's Inner Might.

*******The weaving of the Sun in the growth of the plants reveals the Divine
working. We can feel that this spiritual essence working is similar to our
own inner souls, that it is like our soul spread out in external space.

�� **********************************
�� The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the constellation TAURUS from May 1st to June 15th in our era. A symbolic image of the BULL done from Steiner's sketches & indications is inserted below,
��

�� The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday,�May 18th. Moon Capricorn.� Isabella.

Monday,� May 19th. Moon Capricorn.�J.G. Fichte born 1762.

Tuesday,� May 20th. Moon Aquarius. Columbus died 1506. John Stuart Mill born 1806.

Wednesday, May 21st. Moon Aquarius. Albrecht D�rer born 1471.

Thursday, May 22nd. Moon Pisces. Last Quarter. Richard Wagner born 1813.

Friday,�May 23rd. Moon Pisces.� Savanarola burnt at the stake 1498.

Saturday,�May 24th.�Moon Pisces.� Copernicus died 1543. Lord Bulwer-Lytton born 1803.

P.S. The Moon passes close to the planet Mars Wednesday night, though it's visible only in the late evening.

The verse for the Southern Hemisphere for this week:
*� M A N T R A� # 30� *

Es spriessen mir im Seelensonnenlicht
Des Denkens reife Fr�chte
In Selbstbewusstseins Sicherheit
Verwandelt alles F�hlen sich.
Empfinden kann ich freudevoll
Des Herbstes Geisterwachen:
Der Winter wird in mir
Den Seelensommer wecken.

There sprouts in Soul-Sun-Light
The ripening Fruits of Thinking
Into Self-Consciousness' certainty
Transforming all Feelings.
I can perceive joyously
The Autumn's Spirit-Watch:
The Winter becomes in me
The Soul-Summer's wakening.

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#1697 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 8:59 am
Subject: Russian Pseudomorphosis mmorrell1
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Dear Group,

I put togeather a little history article on Russia and its search for
its artistic self identity ---and posted it at the Kansas City Post.
The link is below.  Check it out, if you want.


http://www.kcpost.net/RussianPseudomorphosis.htm

Mathew Morrell
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#1698 From: "LilOleMissy" <lilolemissy@...>
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 12:25 pm
Subject: Re: Russian Pseudomorphosis lilolemissy@...
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Dear Mathew,

I truly appreciate your ability to summarize such a vast scope into
an enjoyable whole. Thank you for a wonderful writing.

Regards,

Sheila

Dear Group,

I put togeather a little history article on Russia and its search
for
its artistic self identity ---and posted it at the Kansas City Post.
The link is below.  Check it out, if you want.


http://www.kcpost.net/RussianPseudomorphosis.htm

Mathew Morrell
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#1699 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 11:12 pm
Subject: Re: Starman's last address durwardstarman
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In a message dated 5/1/2003 3:28:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tma4cbt@... writes:

Starman's last installment, on art, is posted at the Post. The link
is below:

http://www.kcpost.net/EastMW_Art.htm

********Thank you so much for doing these, Matthew. I hope they can stand alone and be comprehensible to anyone reading them. Sometime, as you said, I really have to make the time to revise them a bit to make sure.

Dr. Starman
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#1700 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Wed May 21, 2003 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: The Wizard of OZ. Lucifer? durwardstarman
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In a message dated 5/9/2003 10:27:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tma4cbt@... writes:

Dear Forum,

Lately, there's been a lotta tornadic activity in Kansas, where I
live. A couple tornadoes touched down in the area around Kansas City
yesterday, and last weekend they were all over the place, over-
turning cars, blowing down houses, tearing off roofs, even lifting a
full grown horse up into the boughs of hardwood tree. Tornadoes
behave as though they're juvenile delinquints, or like giant
luciferic spirits whirling chaotically through the etheric plane.
Still, to this day, scientists cannot figure out the inner-dynamic of
a tornado. It behooves them. Tornadoes remain nature's mystery.

Anyone have any ideas on tornadoes?

Mathew Morrell

*******Sorry to take so long to answer. A good general principle to follow---as one might expect, condemned by so-called "scientific" thought as absurdly anthropocentric---is that everything in nature harmful to the human being is a corruption of pure nature caused by the opposing forces. So, earthquakes and volcanoes, poisonous animals and plants---all represent an intrusion into the work of the upper Gods by the lower ones. It is the hierarchy known as the Archangels who have to do with the air. "Fallen" Archangels therefore are behind every form of destructive weather pattern, interacting with the water, where the Angels work particularly strongly. The name of one of the opposing powers in the New Testament in Greek was "diavolos", meaning literally "he who throws into a hurley-burley" or "throws into confusion." This being is usually identified with Lucifer. A luciferic activity is indeed a good way to describe the mysterious creation of tornadoes, waterspouts, and hurricanes, or rather, an activity caused by both Ahriman and Lucifer, the former being the director and the latter carrying out the actual creation of the confusion.

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#1701 From: "Mathew Morrell" <tma4cbt@...>
Date: Fri May 23, 2003 7:25 pm
Subject: Spiders mmorrell1
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Dear Group,

Last summer I was weeding my patio when, up out of a hole, immerged
the biggest goddamn spider I've seen in my life, a good deal larger
than the tarantulas I used to see in the Ozark Mountains of Missouri,
and even larger than anything I've seen on TV.  The spider had a
below-ground nest underneath a concrete slab where it has grown very
fat on the plentiful array of insects who unwittingly crawl into the
webless lair.  Crickets mostly, rolly pollys, ants. . . and probably
a dead chicken or two. The spider was gray and hairless and sent
shivers of abhorrance up my spine as I gazed at its headless face and
its rows of black, all-seeing eyes. Fear has wonderfull way of
sharpening your concentration ---and for a minute or so I was "at
one" with this creature. The impression I had at that moment was that
the actual mind and consciousness of the spider did not exist within
the body. In that sense, it was a lot like a plant.  Its mind was
centered outside and around the body within a clear etheric aura,
instead of within the brain.  So strong was this impression that I
felt as if the spider "saw" me, not from its eyes, but from the aura
that surrounded it.  The actual body seemed secondary, much like we
feel towards our hand or legs.

Just a little thought as we enter summertime and we all head out to
our gardens.


Mathew Morrell
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#1702 From: DRStarman2001@...
Date: Sun May 25, 2003 11:14 pm
Subject: Calendar of the Soul-Week 6 After Easter durwardstarman
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�� The "Calendar of the Soul"

� Rudolf Steiner gave out the 'Soul-Calendar', 52 meditative mantras to enable us to experience the 'astral' (soul) events occurring within and in outer Nature during the year, starting at Easter. These are well known to anthroposophists--- but the original "Calendar " also had 12 Images of the Zodiac, to be meditated with each month to sense the working of the 'solar' forces in the cosmos in the day, a listing of the Moon's phases & position in the signs each night for sensing the 'lunar' forces, and a list of saints and other spiritual figures connected with specific days. Here's the whole 'Soul-Calendar' restored to its original use.

* M A N T R A #6 *
Es ist erstanden aus der Eigenheit
Mein Selbst und findet sich
Als Weltenoffenbarung
In Zeit- und Raumeskr�ften;
Die Welt, sie zeigt mir �berall
Als g�ttlich Urbild
Des eignen Abbilds Wahrheit.

There has arisen out of my Egohood
My Self and finds itself
As World-Revelation
In Time- and Space-forces;
The World, it points out to me everywhere
As godly Archetypal picture
My own Image's truth.

*******We can see that the spiritual essence working in Nature (as the
transformation of spring goes on around us in time and space) is an image of
our true Self-- which this week rises out of our ego-consciousness, to find
itself mirrored there.

�� **********************************
�� The Sun, according to the Doctor, is under the influence of the constellation TAURUS from May 1st to June 15th in our era. A symbolic image of the BULL done from Steiner's sketches & indications is inserted below,
��

�� The Moon positions and phases for the week are listed below along with some of the spiritual figures connected with the days.

Sunday,�May 25th. Moon Aries. Laying of the Foundation Stone of the Strassbourg Monastery 1277.

Monday,� May 26th. Moon Aries. The Venerable Bede (famous English monk of the 8th century).

Tuesday,� May 27th. Moon Taurus. Maria of Magdala. Dante born 1265. Calvin died 1564.

Wednesday, May 28th. Moon Taurus. Wilhelm.

Thursday, May 29th. Moon Taurus. Christiana.

Friday,�May 30th. Moon Gemini. New Moon. The Maid of Orleans burnt 1431.

Saturday,�May 31st.�Moon Gemini. Angela.

P.S. The Moon passes close to the planet Saturn Saturday night the 31st.

The verse for the Southern Hemisphere for this week:

* M A N T R A # 3 1 *

Das Licht aus Geistestiefen,
Nach aussen strebt es sonnenhaft:
Es wird zur Lebenswillenskraft
Und leuchtet in der Sinne Dumpfheit,
Um Kr�fte zu entbinden,
Die Schaffensm�chte aus Seelentrieben
In Menschenwerke reifen lassen.

The Light out of Spirit-Deeps
Strives outwards like the Sun:
It turns into Life-Will-Force
And shines into the Senses' Dullness,
The Powers to unbind,
That Shaping-Might out of Soul-Drives
In Man's Work will let ripen.

This week's mantram:
The season of Autumn is the time in which we are meant to develop Self (inner)-consciousness instead of the Nature (outer)-consciousness we had all Summer. Last week, we felt this growing thinking consciousness directing all our feelings from vagueness to certainty, as our summer soul-experience awakened fully. This week, the verse focuses our attention on the spiritual light of thinking and how it seeks to turn to the outer world, turning into will-forces for living, and illuminating the otherwise dull sense-existence, thus turning the blind urges of the soul into creatively-shaping forces.

Dr. Starman

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