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Re: [stanley_camp] Re: Last person In?

Hi Brian,

Dad sent me this info...

Grandma lived in Kowloon, not sure with whom (may be with some of her Russian friends), as it is unlikely that she lived on her own. She lived with us pre the invasion.

To my knowledge, the only incident she mentioned to me was when she was accosted by a
drunken Japanese soldier on the street. A Japanese officer happened to be nearby, came over, spoke to the soldier, and then slapped him a couple of times and then apologised to her for the soldiers behaviour.

From memory she never spoke (to me at least) about her life during the war years (she might have to Mum and Dad).


Michael

On 25/01/2012 6:00 PM, Brian wrote:
 

Hi, Michael

Were Russians allowed to choose to enter Stanley or stay in town?
Did you ever hear any family traditions about her experiences? Conditions in Kowloon must have been horrifying by 1945.

Brian

--- In stanley_camp@yahoogroups.com, Michael Martin <mmarti4@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> My grandfather's (A J Savitsky) mother in law stayed in Kowloon
> throughout the duration of the war rather than spending it in Stanley
> (or being evacuated) because she was still considered Russian.
>
> My grandparents became naturalised British subjects so grandfather ended
> up in Stanley and Grandmother was evacuated to Australia with my dad and
> uncle.
>
> Regards,
>
> MIchael
>
> On 25/01/2012 3:03 AM, Brian wrote:
> >
> > In the Chronology for January 31 I give a list of groups (but not
> > individuals for the most part) known to have been outside Stanley on
> > that date. Corrections and additions always welcome.
> >
> > But I've been wondering: who was the person in? And who (apart from
> > Ellen Field and Selwyn-Clarke) stayed in Hong Kong for all or most of
> > the war and never got sent into Camp?
> >
> > In the first category, perhaps it was Mrs. Potts? She's recorded by
> > Jones as coming in on October 15, 1943, later than the bankers
> > (July/August) and later than three from the Tung Wah Hospital (Jones
> > reports them on September 6). Of course, he could be referring to the
> > visits of 'third nationals' for some approved purpose, but if they
> > were actually internees then these are the last I know of (leaving
> > aside chidren sent from other locations).
> >
> > As for those who were never in Stanley but 'should' have been: George
> > Samuel Ladd told a war crimes court he was arrested on March 26, 1944
> > - but what was his nationality? I've got some notes on Edgar Laufer
> > which tell us that he was part of Selwyn-Clarke's smuggling operation
> > (vitamins in toothpaste into Shamshuipo etc.) and that he worked for
> > China Light Power without pay during the war.
> >
> > Anyonm know anything about these two or other possible people in the
> > 'never in Stanley' category?
> >
> >
>



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In the Chronology for January 31 I give a list of groups (but not individuals for the most part) known to have been outside Stanley on that date. Corrections...
Brian
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Jan 24, 2012
4:03 pm

Hi Brian, My grandfather's (A J Savitsky) mother in law stayed in Kowloon throughout the duration of the war rather than spending it in Stanley (or being...
Michael Martin
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Jan 24, 2012
7:27 pm

Hi, Michael Were Russians allowed to choose to enter Stanley or stay in town? Did you ever hear any family traditions about her experiences? Conditions in...
Brian
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Jan 25, 2012
7:00 am

Hi Brian, Dad sent me this info... /Grandma lived in Kowloon, not sure with whom (may be with some of her Russian friends), as it is unlikely that she lived on...
Michael Martin
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Jan 26, 2012
5:01 am

Thanks for this Michael....
Brian
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Jan 27, 2012
7:54 pm

Don, As Michael notes, the 'race' question makes the question of who should or shouldn't have been in Stanley very complex. BAAG kept an eye on all those they...
Tony Banham
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Jan 25, 2012
7:41 am

Tony: Good points. There's a Suzie Potts in China To Me, and she's from 'an international family' - her mother (Mrs. Weill) was born in Turkey and her father...
Brian
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Jan 25, 2012
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