Hi, I am looking for Carl M. Ellison. I have a couple of questions. I have read some of his stuff on identity certificates and I like it. Now I am writing an...
Gunther Schadow
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Mar 13, 1999 2:24 am
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... Hash: SHA1 Gunther, you found me. I don't know which addresses failed for you, but I'd like to hear about that. It suggests that my ISPs might be flaky....
Ellison, Carl M
carl.m.ellison@...
Mar 13, 1999 2:24 am
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Carl, thank you. The e-mail problems existed with acm.org and some earlier address starting with "sw.???.com". They didn't know the user "cme". What made me so...
Gunther Schadow
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Mar 13, 1999 2:24 am
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What are the advantages of embedding display types in the definition of byte strings, rather than explicitly using an S-expression to relate a MIME-type to a...
Paul Crowley
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Mar 14, 1999 12:12 am
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Paul, funny that you ask about it today. I just sent private email to Carl about this issue this morning. Several people I talked to about SPKI like it a lot,...
Robert Grimm
rgrimm@...
Mar 14, 1999 3:10 am
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While I'm asking about some of the things in the SPKI draft, here's another possibility: I think there's an alternative secure way to do 1-of-N certificates...
Paul Crowley
paul@...
Mar 14, 1999 5:54 am
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Hi Paul and Robert -- I agree with you both the display types are a debatable feature of SPKI/SDSI. They obviously add a little bit of complexity. On the ...
Ron Rivest
rivest@...
Mar 16, 1999 5:38 pm
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... Can we drop display types and declare that the name is UTF8? That gets us both an international alphabet and a simple syntax. For those unfamiliar with...
Eric Grosse
ehg@...
Mar 15, 1999 10:13 pm
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Eric -- It is probably an argument against UTF8 that the document you cite doesn't display its examples correctly on my (Netscape) browser. I get upside-down...
Ron Rivest
rivest@...
Mar 15, 1999 10:47 pm
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... Yes: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/doc/utf.ps The claim is not that all existing applications work with UTF8, only that in a new context like SPKI where...
Eric Grosse
ehg@...
Mar 15, 1999 11:10 pm
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... I think these advantages are both important features of SPKI/SDSI, but as far as I can tell they can be done without the complexity of display types, by...
Paul Crowley
paul@...
Mar 16, 1999 12:13 am
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The UTF-8 definition is RFC 2279. You can find it at <ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2279.txt>. I also agree that if the only real need for display types is for...
Jon Callas
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Mar 16, 1999 12:21 am
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I am all but certain that an earlier draft had (or was going to have) UTF8 as the standard. Apparently something happened to that? brian Brian Thomas, CISSP -...
Brian M. Thomas
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Mar 16, 1999 12:28 am
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... Ron> Eric -- Ron> It is probably an argument against UTF8 that the document you Ron> cite doesn't display its examples correctly on my (Netscape) Ron>...
Paul Koning
pkoning@...
Mar 16, 1999 12:51 am
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Hi Some one know if is posible that the PKI have a mathematical or formal model to proof their properties Jesus Angel...
Jose de Jesus Angel A...
jesus@...
Mar 16, 1999 3:15 am
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... I _strongly_ dislike that idea. Using a display type or similar say that a particular string is in UTF8 is just fine. But making it the default, and at the...
Niels Möller
nisse@...
Mar 16, 1999 5:33 am
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Niels, fixing UTF-8 as an encoding for the canonical form would simply force you to use that encoding for authorization computations, but your application is ...
Robert Grimm
rgrimm@...
Mar 16, 1999 8:21 am
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Hi, sorry for stumbling into your conversation. I believe that going with UNICODE and choosing UTF-8 as the canonical encoding is indeed a pretty good idea...
Gunther Schadow
schadow@...
Mar 16, 1999 5:18 pm
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... I forgot one thing. There are problems with canonical encodings for multilingual character sets, since the boundary between two characters sometimes is not...
Gunther Schadow
schadow@...
Mar 16, 1999 5:34 pm
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... If MIME-typed byte strings were always to occur in parameters, this might be a valid solution, but as I recall the original debate on this topic, we were ...
Carl Ellison
cme@...
Mar 16, 1999 6:08 pm
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... I take it you meant this as a joke, but I did scan my Navigator 4.5 preferences for any selection of character set and found none. I did find a list of...
Carl Ellison
cme@...
Mar 16, 1999 6:09 pm
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... We decided a while back that what you're expressing in a canonical form is bytes, not what appears on a screen. You are not signing the pixels displayed...
Carl Ellison
cme@...
Mar 16, 1999 6:25 pm
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... View -> Encoding -> Unicode (UTF-8). That's Navigato 4.5 under Linux. I guess you'll still need the right font in order to make this work, though. Lots of...
Andreas Bogk
andreas@...
Mar 16, 1999 7:38 pm
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... View menu => Character Set. This will not make any difference on the page mentioned though, since the upside-down question marks are not UTF-8 encoded....
Patrik Nilsson
patrik@...
Mar 16, 1999 8:11 pm
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... Carl> We started out with UTF-8 as the character set and the Carl> discussion on the list pushed us back to Latin-1. I believe Carl> the primary...
Paul Koning
pkoning@...
Mar 16, 1999 8:38 pm
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... I agree that unicode is probably the way to go, for supporting characters beyond latin1. I only object to requiring UTF-8 for encoding of the unicode...
Niels Möller
nisse@...
Mar 16, 1999 9:07 pm
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... There is even more to say here. As you might know the Unicode per se is backwards compatible not only to US-ASCII but also to Latin-1. It is just the UTF-8...
Gunther Schadow
schadow@...
Mar 17, 1999 12:13 am
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... Niels> The last sentence is wrong. Perhaps you meant some other Niels> encoding than UTF-8 here? For instance, my last name (written Niels> in hex, to...
Paul Koning
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Mar 17, 1999 12:22 am
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... I don't get this. We are free to specify that unicode strings in spki are always in network byte order (or the other way round, I don't care). We only have...
Niels Möller
nisse@...
Mar 17, 1999 1:03 am
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Just use UTF-8. Works great; less filling. All the other WGs are using it as the replacement for ASCII to meet their IESG requirements on character sets. For...
