Hi all, Happy 2004. I hope you had the best of times during these holidays. Sorry to ruin your party, but it is time to work on Spinoza!!... Spinoza says: ====...
Fernando, The order and connection of ideas...same as the order and connection of things." What "things" where? In the human mind or the infinite intellect?...
This still goes along with Fernando's most recent post. In keeping with the "order and connection of things and ideas," and parallelism: What is the mode of ...
There seemed to be some dissatisfaction at the suggestion of substituting/inserting/using various terms. [I just explained part of this in a post to Fernando...
Hi Mark, Let me start by saying that I have enjoyed very much exchanging ideas with you in this site in the last few weeks, and that I look forward to more...
Hi Fernando and All, Perhaps the holiday interrupted a better Party! :-) Let us continue the endeavour to acquire a character involving Clear Ideas which will...
Hi Fernando et all, At the moment I'm studying part two of the "Ethics" trying to work through a paper of Sunhunter. So I try to give some hints. But of course...
Hi Terry and all, You demonstrate clearly with your quotes and I agree that, “in this part of the Ethics in particular (and I would say generally the whole...
Hi Fernando and All, ... With regard to the original proposition: ==== Ethics, Book II, Prop. VII: "The order and connection of ideas is the same as the order...
I didn't have time to sterilize my scalpel, so let me do a little exploratory surgery with this here shotgun. ... Spinoza claims to understand that the idea of...
Ok. There are several things in prop. VII. There is a world to be known. And it, the world, CAN be known. The same relations that exist in the world exist in ...
Hi SunHunter, Have been reading/considering your most recent post. I have several questions regarding that post. I see that much of what you commented on was...
I read that "in-ness" like "on-ness," isn't reducable to anything else. And that is precisely because there is no imagination to it. Isn't this the "mind...
Hi Mark, Yes. There is world to be known which CAN be known. But the relations - the connection and order of ideas - are not in me but in god. However, it is...
Hi Fernando, Fernando wrote ... the "correspondence" of the power of thinking and acting in god - in my view - is nothing but the "ontological correspondence"...
If the order and connection of ideas is the same as the order and connection of things, how can a material world be produced by an immaterial God? Parallelism ...
Hi Hans, My interpretation is that besides the ontological correspondence of god and its modifications with its infinite modes in its infinite attributes,...
Hi Mark, You say: If the order and connection of ideas is the same as the order and connection of things, how can a material world be produced by an immaterial...
Hi Mark, You say: Concerning what you wrote about the relations not being in you-I disagree. There is nothing in the universe which is not involved in the...
By your statement you have just attributed substance/materiality to God, substance/materiality has a beginning and an end, so whatever it is you are talking...
Fernando / Mark, Lance referred me to this article which on page 6 of 16 as it prints out anyways, discusses Parallelism, unsurprisingly Leibniz, Art, Plato,...
The following is an extract from a message that was recently posted to another list to which I subscribe ... the following : "Usually, philosophers start from...
... I presume that Spinoza understood clearly the nature of his mind and body, and their relationship, as he stated that he had as clear an idea of these ...
... Our actual "In-ness" with respect to body/God is real for us only as we truly understand it to be so. And who does, really? So, in that sense, we are ...
I am grateful for your most recent posts. There are quite a few distinctions I see in it. I will need to spend some time on them. Especially the "silence" for ...
Hi Fernando, ... At first look there seems to exist a certain paradox. the idea as an object (thing) for another idea - i.e. idea of that idea as his 'ideat'...
Hi Hans, I had noticed before what you called the "paradox", an idea first considered as "existing" as opposed to an "idea of an idea" i.e. an idea considered...
Have read you most recent posts several times over-well expressed, well written and clear. When you write of the idea as object/thing, would you or would you...
Question: Why would God need more than one thought? And after that one thought, why would he need to have another? Tom R [Non-text portions of this message...
Sunhunter mentioned Spinoza's 2nd. kind of knowledge. We find the "kinds of knowledge" mentioned in the TDIE, the Short Treatise and in Ethics II,40. The ...
