Donovan, I was wondering if as per the first sentece first paragraph, you could do the honours and go dig up those reasons given by Spinoza which show how...
... Bartleby-like in my "preferring not to-ness," I will allow as how if you will read the citations Terry has posted within the past couple of months, you...
Hi Donovan, Glad you got a giggle it seems. Yes what I wrote is awfully loaded - it is answered quite simply by the immutability of the attributes - and this...
... Spinoza appears to expressely reject the idea of "new systems" in TPT... ... 3. And, certainly, I am fully persuaded that experience has revealed all...
Donovan, Of course, as you know, I am in full agreement with you (up to my present abilities) about Part 3. That sounds like a very interesting exercise you...
stuarts55@...
Dec 5, 2006 3:26 pm
1940
There are two passages that I believe are pertinent to the question of evolution/progress: If we consider the essence of things, whether existing or...
Notice this seems to be an answer to the more than nominal sense of evolution or progress. So it doesn't in itself show that some notion of "progress" couldn't...
stuarts55@...
Dec 5, 2006 10:16 pm
1942
My response (below or previous email) was supposed to be sent to a friend, not to the group, though I do provisionally stand by it..... ... From:...
stuarts55@...
Dec 5, 2006 10:18 pm
1943
Notice this seems to be an answer to the more than nominal sense of evolution or progress. So it doesn't in itself show that some notion of "progress" couldn't...
Something is wrong with my email link to this list. I recall Terry had the same problem a while back. I'm not receiving the messages normally, but can only...
sunhunter2001wrote: I enjoyed seeing these citations, however accidentally they appeared. I posted the citations deliberately. It was stuart55's responses to ...
... Perhaps I should have said, "I experience progress." I know this as well as I know that a dog is a barking animal. For Spinoza, experience is primarily...
... I don't think that's quite fair. I am offering my understanding of Spinoza, albeit in what is perhaps a rather declamatory way. I may be wrong, but I...
Hi All, I enjoyed reading Barrett's (by the way, good to see you posting here) short and to the point response to Donovan's statement. I find myself agreeing...
... BTW, my intention here is to take an opportunity to elaborate upon aspects of Spinoza's philosophy, and what you've said can be remarked upon to serve that...
... Well, don't forget his rules for life (http://home.earthlink.net/~tneff/improve1.htm#P17b): To indulge ourselves with pleasures only in so far as they are ...
The Independent has a review of Jonathan Israel's new book: http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/reviews/article2055065.ece. The publisher's page for the...
Just a note not bearing on the larger questions being raised here: If I am not mistaken, Spinoza's technical language has 'pleasure = improving one's power =...
stuarts55@...
Dec 9, 2006 9:29 am
1954
Donovan wrote: Taking this citation as a guide, I surmise that Spinoza devised the Ethics in the form of a geometric demonstration in order that his ideas ...
stuarts55@...
Dec 9, 2006 9:40 am
1955
"...the affections of the Human Body whose ideas present external bodies as present to us, we shall call images of things, even if they do not reproduce the...
stuarts55@...
Dec 9, 2006 6:41 pm
1956
Hi Stuart and All, ... And I am not clear as to what the conclusion is here so I can't yet determine "what it is worth" to me. :-) I'll take a stab at what the...
... I surmise you equated "enjoyed" with "pleasure," since the former is the word in the sentence. Let's inquire a little into what Spinoza means by...
I don't see any disagreement, but perhaps I understand neither myself nor you (nor Spinoza, for that matter) well enough to see that there is in fact one....
stuarts55@...
Dec 10, 2006 4:31 pm
1959
... l ... Contesting? Who said anything about contesting? I will take this as a Duhaimian invitation to comment on Israel's book. :) It seems that it is...
... mistaken. ... Spinoza is more nuanced than that. I think you have to study in detail the whole of part3 of the Ethics. Take a look at E3: PROP. 57. ...
Actually, the punctuation of your header and the layout of the review were confusing. Here's the poop: Enlightenment Contested, by Jonathan Israel When...
... review were ... Gotcha. ... of ... The thing is that he stops at Kant, again. He has promised a third volume. ... Age ... find ... Ah, c'mon, Ralph. Your...
Hi Ralph, ... So why not pull the handle and flush yourself on over to: http://groups.yahoo.com/ ...and then, either search on "Spinoza" and perhaps join one...
Some may wish to consult the Latin, but Elwes translates certain words "love" and "pleasure," for example, both to indicate passions, which are among those...
