Didn't the theologians of old call the sign of Cancer "the portal of mortals." Because people's souls were thougth to descend through this sign. Then too,...
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MARCUS
marc_us25
Sep 2, 2012 12:48 am
Hekate’s roles covers the whole spectrum of the human existence: from birth to dead and the subsequent trip to the other world. She is considered the Queen...
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joe smuckers
quadrivalent...
Sep 3, 2012 8:13 am
M.L. Von Franz in her book "C.G. Jung: His Myth In Our Time" works out the idea of the psychopomp pretty thoroughly as Mercury and this includes the symbolism...
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Drac Uber
drac_uber_uk
Sep 3, 2012 8:14 am
Hi Sara and the rest of the group, Â Â Just wanted to make one small point. ATRs (at least the New World ones I am familiar with) aren't strictly polytheistic...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 3, 2012 8:20 am
... I see your point here - however, it must be remembered that this description fits many polytheistic religions throughout history. They had their Ruling...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 3, 2012 10:56 am
... there is a dual psychopompic role for 'Apollo' and Hecate in Chaldean Theurgy (note too that the dog is her animal, and as ruler of spirits - queen of the...
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Drac Uber
drac_uber_uk
Sep 3, 2012 8:34 pm
Indeed, I take your point and almost completely agree with you. Infact I suspect we are both trying to make pretty much the same point, but from different...
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Sara
abszero512
Sep 3, 2012 8:34 pm
Yes, I'm sorry. I actually didn't really mean to call ATR polytheist, so much as I meant to say that it's more monotheistic than Judaism (but so is ...
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joe smuckers
quadrivalent...
Sep 3, 2012 8:35 pm
Where specifically in Chaldean theurgy is this mentioned. I'm ignorant of a lot of things, but I thought Hecate and Apollo belonged to Greek or Hellenistic...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 3, 2012 8:40 pm
Ye Gods don't apologize for making a good post. :) And welcome aboard, by the way. LVX Aaron...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 3, 2012 8:42 pm
... the Chaldean Oracles, which are 'Hellenistic', a cultural rather than ethnic term, which involves Judaic, Syrian and Egyptian as much as Greek. 'Apollo'...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 3, 2012 8:47 pm
Maybe he meant the Chaldean Oracles of Zoroaster. They are neither Chaldean nor Zoroastrian - I believe they are Medieval. But they do mention Hecate. LVX ...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 3, 2012 8:48 pm
Another aspect to this is that modern ideas of 'pagan' - are very different from the historical roots of the term. 'Paganism' as a descriptor of religions of...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 3, 2012 8:49 pm
Maybe he meant the Chaldean Oracles of Zoroaster. They are neither Chaldean nor Zoroastrian - I believe they are Medieval. But they do mention Hecate. LVX ...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 3, 2012 8:50 pm
... Medieval!!!??? ;D They're at the core of Neoplatonism of the C4th, contemporary with the Testament of Solomon and Saint Cyprian etc. (Naturally The name ...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 3, 2012 9:05 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_Oracles not a bad outline of the subject, though I question the firmness of an Alexandrian attribution. On the other hand...
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MARCUS
marc_us25
Sep 4, 2012 4:04 am
... Basically this comes from the story that Hekate lead Persephone in and out of the underworld on her regular journeys every year. By the way, I forgot to...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 4, 2012 4:08 am
Ok ya got me on that one. I must have simply been thinking about the fact that they were popular among mystics in the medieval (and Renaissance) periods......
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 4, 2012 4:12 am
Taking all of this into account, I suspect this is the origin of the Solomon/Hecate talismans you pointed out. More and more, I'm thinking Hecate is the true...
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marc_us25
Sep 4, 2012 10:36 am
... Hmmm, well I think maybe you are the right person to start with that approach unless a pre-Solomonic, i.e.Greco-Egyptian(or Hermetic), would be...
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MARCUS
marc_us25
Sep 4, 2012 10:37 am
My apologies Aaron for taking the liberty to make this comment, I know is not exactly Solomonic. I forgot to mention, just in case there are people interested...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 4, 2012 11:17 am
... you're forgiven mate, my grasp on the ancient world is at the expense of knowing which way is up in this one ;D ALWays Jake ...
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Jake Stratton-Kent
jakeus72
Sep 4, 2012 11:27 am
... the beginnings of Solomonic are C1st/C2nd (Testament of Solomon), so the papyri are contemporary & relevant. The synthesis of that era involved Greek...
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Sara
abszero512
Sep 4, 2012 11:40 am
I've also invoked Ishtar in the context of summoning other spirits. I've never done it in a Solomonic context (in fact, I'm not exactly sure what that means),...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 4, 2012 11:48 am
Ah, Jake, you beat me to it. I was going to say that I would want to first study the methods of working with Hecate in the PGM. That, and we should take...
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MARCUS
marc_us25
Sep 5, 2012 12:51 am
... Thanks for the input, I was thinking precisely on the PGM as a Greco-Egyptian predecessor of the Solomonic magic(its roots as I see it), where there are...
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marc_us25
Sep 5, 2012 1:08 am
... That's exactly how I've been working with her since the beginning some years ago, and the altar is a most. My Legba's and Hekate's altars have,...
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marginaleye
Sep 6, 2012 8:16 pm
I was wondering how people saw the relationship (if any) between the Olympic spirits and the "mainstream" Qabalistic sephirothic/planetary hierarchies. To...
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AaronL
kheph777
Sep 6, 2012 8:20 pm
Your speculation is correct - they are their own thing, standing alongside of the existing angelic hierarchies. If you were to put them into a Qabalistic...
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zerovector12
Sep 8, 2012 1:53 am
This is a really interesting thread. I like what people are doing lately with the "ghost box". However, it seems that the language programmed into them is...
