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Re: Digest Number 1477   Message List  
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Subtitutes For Blood (was: Digest Number 1477)

Greetings!

Actually, if the grape juice or wine were consecrated properly (esp.
if by a Priest in a Church), then I bet it would make a good
substitution.

There is also the possibility of using salt water (sea water) in
place of blood. I discuss this at length in "Secrets..." Our blood
plasma, as it turns out, is based on sea water. (Proving we all
once lived in the oceans!)

Also in the same book, I talk about "Solomonic Omiero." This is a
more involved form of Holy Water:

1) First make some Holy Water (either as outlined in the Key of
Solomon, or obtained from a Church, etc).

2) Also find some Psalms that relate to the Force/Angel/Spirit you
are working with. See "Use of the Psalms" in our links section, or
even search the Psalms for keywords in an online Bible.

3) Also gather some fresh plants that relate to the
Force/Angel/Spirit in question. (You don't want woods or resins-
look for leafy green plants!) Scott Cunningham wrote some good
source material for this kind of thing. See "Incenses, Oils and
Brews."

4) Prepair your ritual space, and yourself, as you normally would
for magickal work. It is best to perform this work on the proper
Day and Hour of the Force/Angel/Spirit.

5) Finally - put the Holy Water into a large bowl. Take some of the
plant material in hand, and begin to sing/recite the Psalms as you
immerse the plants into the Water and begin to rip and tear at the
plant material.

Keep going until the plants just can't be ripped, torn, squeezed or
pressed any further, and you are out of plant material. The water
should be as dark green as you can possibly get it! When this is
achieved, store the Water away like any other Holy Water, and use it
as needed for sacrifice/offering. :)

In LVX
Aaron



--- In solomonic@yahoogroups.com, Gary Gregory <fastjack39@...>
wrote:
>
> Will I have another question, I did see a posting on this subject
before but it did not really answer my own questions and
> and that is substitution of sacrifice of blood. I had two Ideas
the first is Pricking my own finger for the blood.
> Then I had a epiphany during a church service and why not use wine
or grape juice since it symbolize the blood of Christ
> during the ritual. What do you guys think.







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Will I have another question, I did see a posting on this subject before but it did not really answer my own questions and and that is substitution of...
Gary Gregory
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Jan 25, 2008
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Greetings! Actually, if the grape juice or wine were consecrated properly (esp. if by a Priest in a Church), then I bet it would make a good substitution. ...
Aaron
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Jan 29, 2008
6:52 am

... this is achieved, store the Water away like any other Holy Water, and use it as needed for sacrifice/offering. :)< Aaron, This is an excellent rendering...
MOLOCH
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Jan 31, 2008
6:29 pm

... Wow, what a source! :) I also suspect this is the basic concept behind Hoodoo "floor washes" and baths. (Though I doubt they are made with such ritual.)...
Aaron
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Feb 2, 2008
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A couple of days ago, while at work, I got to thinking about the use of blood and bodyparts in grimores. I think I've hit upon a theory, not a new one but, one...
melchior7
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Feb 16, 2008
10:21 pm

... I find that idea really really doubtful. A McWiccan Idea, actually. A twenty minute bike ride from here I can go to a store and buy whole dried deer penis,...
Vorcirith
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Feb 18, 2008
1:43 am

... actually. ... easily ... downtown ... Greetings Paul Hudson suggests the use of egg whites to thicken incense in his "Mastering Witchcraft". Nebo...
Nebo
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Feb 19, 2008
6:16 am

... in ... a ... term) I find it highly unlikely that the use of ritual sacrifice outlined in the grimoires is a mere blind. At the time the books were ...
Aaron
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Feb 18, 2008
7:23 am

... Medieval Christian Solomonic magic isn't particularlly connected with old time Jewish religion, as you have emphasised yourself on occasion. Sacrifice was...
Jake Stratton-Kent
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Feb 18, 2008
11:32 am

... Taking off the magicians mantle for a bit and showing some of my day job (I'm a personal chef specializing in food allergies) for a moment... Where do you...
Keith Boyle
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Feb 19, 2008
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You've got a point there, Aaron. I caught myself thinking similar thoughts this morning on way to work. And yes, I'm quite familiar with biblical sacrifice. I...
Alphonsus de Ligouri
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Feb 19, 2008
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Greetings, folks! On the blood issue: keep in mind there are two different uses for the blood as outlined in the Key of Solomon. One is for sacrifice or for...
Aaron
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