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--- In solomonic@yahoogroups.com, "Colin Low" <valkeerie@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Aaron .. some very interesting thoughts. As a convinced
monist I see
> things in a broadly similar way - every 'thing' - ideas, visions,
dreams,
> pizzas, thoughts of pizza etc, have the same ontological status.
Everything
> is a first class object. Things differ, not in substance or essential
> nature, but in the kinds of relationships they can enter into - you
can't
> eat the 'thought of a pizza', but you can torment someone with it.
Pizza ...
> Pizza ... anchovy ... mozarella ....etc etc.

You bet! It's what the Buddhists call "phenomena." Every single
thing you ever experience beyond the silence of the womb - from every
rock and tree to every idea or fiction - is a phenomenon within the
universe. A "something that happened here." Angels and spirits are
also phenomena- just as inherently "real" as any other. (The Buddhist
would say "not real" - but I'm framing this in a Western context.)

> The information/meme thing, with selection, is a neat idea.

I think it's the best model- so far- to explain the "biology" of
spiritual creatures. If you can grasp how an Idea lives and survives
over centuries, then you should be able to grasp how a God lives and
survives.

It also wrentches the whole debate from the usual unspoken
implication: "How can you believe that little invisible beasties are
really flying through the sky and rushing to answer your exorcisms?"
Yet, if you look at it from the standpoint of memetics, it suddenly
makes *perfect* sense when folks like Agrippa write "An Angel resides
wherever its Sigil is inscribed." As well as later bits of wisdom
like "By Names and Images are all Powers awakened and re-awakened."

In Ch. 3 of "Secrets...", I outline the Leary-Wilson 8-Circuit model
of consciousness. I pay special attention to the 3rd-
Semantic/Time-Binding- Circuit, where I believe most of the magickal
arts are rooted.

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Thanks Aaron .. some very interesting thoughts. As a convinced monist I see things in a broadly similar way - every 'thing' - ideas, visions, dreams, pizzas,...
Colin Low
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Jan 21, 2007
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... monist I see ... dreams, ... Everything ... can't ... Pizza ... ... You bet! It's what the Buddhists call "phenomena." Every single thing you ever...
Aaron
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Jan 21, 2007
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... I've just spent way too much time researching the history of the QBL and tracing it back to around 1380-ish AD with DeLeon, and maybe as far back as 70 AD...
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Jan 21, 2007
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Thelema, great stuff! Hope it is 'on topic' enough to persist a while. ... ;-) oh yes, the Picatrix is a long term interest of mine, and the self-styled...
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Jan 21, 2007
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... Note to self: google Sabeans. Has anyone gotten an english translation of the Picatrix yet? ... Haggigah, Chaggiga, hagiga... It's from the Talmud. It's...
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I am also interested in the confluence of ... One gave Hermeticism the Primum Mobile, and that was just one of 'em. (Inconveniently long after the Creation to...
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I have the first half of the Picatrix, published by Ourouboros Press in Seattle. I splashed out on the leather-bound, gold-embossed version in the expectation...
Colin Low
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Jan 22, 2007
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Hi, As I think this post will be revealed to be on-topic for the group, I'll try to elaborate on the kabbalah origins thing. For most of the 20th C the best...
Colin Low
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Jan 22, 2007
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... At this stage, I've found the opposite to be true, but I'll get back to you in fifteen years. ...
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Jan 23, 2007
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... idea ... that seems. ... back to you ... [snip] ... least pea ... directions, and ... converse ... I suspect, ... Well, my opinions are constantly in...
Colin Low
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... Modern Zombie Powder? No need for pesky blowfish toxins at all! tetrawhateveritisicide. I meant to imply I've been breathing lead dust and vapors, and it's...
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... it's making ... I'm not ... GCRC*. Nothing very witty intended ;-) I'm usually a fairly optimistic and positive sort of person, no more saturnine than any...
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... Oh! I get it. :) I wrote about my experiences in Saturn in a blog post<http://headforred.blogspot.com/2006/08/falling-in-love-with-binah.html>a while back....
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Thanks for sharing your experiences of Saturn. You seem to have found a way to balance up the experience, to recontextualise it so the negative aspects don't...
Colin Low
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... Is Saturn "Judgement"? I didn't recontext it, it just sort of happened on its own, or at least through the spirits' help. ... I tell you, I had the WORST...
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... My own interpretation of the Journey. Inspired by this conversation; expounded to the best of my ability at this point in my magickal career: Babalon &...
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... I think perhaps you misunderstood the purpose behind the questions. You could have said "the questions are goobledygook from my perspective", but you...
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Greetings folks! I hate to break it to you, but Colin's been around for a while. ;) As always, let's keep our personal opinions about each other (or *any* ...
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... Personally, I believe wholeheartedly in the larger context *as a model*. That model works to explain the context and aptitudes of the spirits. It works to...
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This is the kind of answer I was hoping for. Thank you for taking the trouble ;-) ... the ... I ... [snip] ... as ... group ... work ... the ... some ... I...
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... Dude, I guess you're a grant writer. I'm a Tech writer. As I'm sure you know, this is (ironically enough) the only sanity check I get during the day. ... ...
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Jan 19, 2007
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Thelema, hi Colin, had a go at replying last night but ran out of steam. Think I made it through without losing anything tonight. ... not sure how many of us...
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In a message dated 1/19/2007 9:02:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, Aaron@... writes: You can explain why you feel Colin's questions are noobish, but please...
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Sorry to hear it SF ... it is no consolation, but a lot of families are scattered all over these days, and don't meet up much. It is a great pity for...
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Sorry, didn't mean to vent, that note didn't come out right, was missing some words, just iggy it.sf [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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Jan 20, 2007
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Thanks Colin, I'll need to look around for something to put in a bottle, don't know if I can find anything from him though. He did a few things to try to ...
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