I had hyperlinks in my original e-mail that disappeared:

the word GARLAND was supposed to be clickable, giving credit where it's due:
http://homepage.mac.com/keithmjohnson/soapbubbler.com/page9/page50/page50.html
Mike L. Miller
Developmental Learning Specialist
http://mikecanhelp.net
Click here to check schedule
415/264-0227

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, Mike Miller <mikecanhelp@...> wrote:

From: Mike Miller <mikecanhelp@...>
Subject: Re: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals
To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 11:49 PM







 









       Thanks Keith! Made me kinda giddy hearing that from you.

This morning on Bernal Hill I used the garland (with zip tie tails trimmed now)
while holding a small tri-string on either side and PHEWF! it was beautiful. I
suspect as my video and bubble learning curves leap skyward I will just keep
making videos that make me want to say, "Oh no, THIS is the one you HAVE to
watch..." so I'm going to stop promoting and just let the people who like what
I'm doing check out the blog...



But...once I get my Bernal Hill footage edited...it' ll be the one you HAVE to
watch ;)

I'm learning every day from the archives and from playing; thanks to all you
generous souls on SBF!!!

Yay!

http://bubbletravel s.blogspot. com

http://www.youtube. com/milfus

:)

Mike

aka kermitbubbleboy

Mike L. Miller

Developmental Learning Specialist

http://mikecanhelp. net

Click here to check schedule

415/264-0227



--- On Mon, 12/14/09, RIBubbleGuy <ribubbleguy@ yahoo.com> wrote:



From: RIBubbleGuy <ribubbleguy@ yahoo.com>

Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals

To: soapbubblefanciers@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 9:02 PM



 



Mike.



Your Twin Peaks video is really fine.



Too cool to see the Garland String in action up there.  Looks like you wrung
every last bubble out of it.  Awesome.



Thanks too for your heads-up about those telescoping poles from HD.  I've been
looking at them too.



If I come up with anything better than the hiking poles I'm currently using,
I'll let you know.



Adios.



Keith.



--- In soapbubblefanciers@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Miller <mikecanhelp@ ...>
wrote:



>



> I know this is redundant, but I'm proud of this video, in case you didn't
catch it: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=uhUm2QW6HGA



> My first attempt at Home Depot variety telescoping Window Washer poles showed
up at the Exploratorium in November. 8 foot poles that retract to about 3 feet,
not terribly light, $15 and putting them away damp quickly resulted in lots of
rust. Disappointing. Searching telescoping poles took me to a site that sells
those lovely ultralight poles...for hundreds of dollars...so I'm looking for
pole deals too...



> bubbletravels. blogspot. com



>



> Mike L. Miller



> Developmental Learning Specialist



> http://mikecanhelp. net



> Click here to check schedule



> 415/264-0227



>



> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bill Coleman <stretch@... > wrote:



>



> From: Bill Coleman <stretch@... >



> Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals



> To: soapbubblefanciers@ yahoogroups. com



> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:58 PM



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> > Long Bubble poles:



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> > Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend



>



> > to 20' I think. That's the ticket.



>



>



>



> Actually, they make them to over 60 foot in length out of carbon fiber



>



> with prices to match!  2K + or - .



>



>



>



> These long poles were developed to replace ladders when the UK virtually



>



> outlawed ladders for "safety" reasons.  No reports on how many wrenched



>



> backs and torn shoulders as a result of using the poles.  But what do I



>



> know, I'm just a clown!



>



>



>



> So start lifting weights now, and in a few years you will be making



>



> Olympic pool size bubbles with your six story tri strings!



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> Cheers!



>



> Bill "Stretch" Coleman



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> http://stiltpro. blogspot. com/



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Thanks Keith! Made me kinda giddy hearing that from you.
This morning on Bernal Hill I used the garland (with zip tie tails trimmed now)
while holding a small tri-string on either side and PHEWF! it was beautiful. I
suspect as my video and bubble learning curves leap skyward I will just keep
making videos that make me want to say, "Oh no, THIS is the one you HAVE to
watch..." so I'm going to stop promoting and just let the people who like what
I'm doing check out the blog...

But...once I get my Bernal Hill footage edited...it'll be the one you HAVE to
watch ;)
I'm learning every day from the archives and from playing; thanks to all you
generous souls on SBF!!!
Yay!
http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/milfus
:)
Mike
aka kermitbubbleboy
Mike L. Miller
Developmental Learning Specialist
http://mikecanhelp.net
Click here to check schedule
415/264-0227

--- On Mon, 12/14/09, RIBubbleGuy <ribubbleguy@...> wrote:

From: RIBubbleGuy <ribubbleguy@...>
Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals
To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 9:02 PM







 









       Mike.



Your Twin Peaks video is really fine.



Too cool to see the Garland String in action up there.  Looks like you wrung
every last bubble out of it.  Awesome.



Thanks too for your heads-up about those telescoping poles from HD.  I've been
looking at them too.



If I come up with anything better than the hiking poles I'm currently using,
I'll let you know.



Adios.



Keith.



--- In soapbubblefanciers@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Miller <mikecanhelp@ ...>
wrote:

>

> I know this is redundant, but I'm proud of this video, in case you didn't
catch it: http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=uhUm2QW6HGA

> My first attempt at Home Depot variety telescoping Window Washer poles showed
up at the Exploratorium in November. 8 foot poles that retract to about 3 feet,
not terribly light, $15 and putting them away damp quickly resulted in lots of
rust. Disappointing. Searching telescoping poles took me to a site that sells
those lovely ultralight poles...for hundreds of dollars...so I'm looking for
pole deals too...

> bubbletravels. blogspot. com

>

> Mike L. Miller

> Developmental Learning Specialist

> http://mikecanhelp. net

> Click here to check schedule

> 415/264-0227

>

> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bill Coleman <stretch@... > wrote:

>

> From: Bill Coleman <stretch@... >

> Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals

> To: soapbubblefanciers@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:58 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>  

>

>

>

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>

> > Long Bubble poles:

>

> > Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend

>

> > to 20' I think. That's the ticket.

>

>

>

> Actually, they make them to over 60 foot in length out of carbon fiber

>

> with prices to match!  2K + or - .

>

>

>

> These long poles were developed to replace ladders when the UK virtually

>

> outlawed ladders for "safety" reasons.  No reports on how many wrenched

>

> backs and torn shoulders as a result of using the poles.  But what do I

>

> know, I'm just a clown!

>

>

>

> So start lifting weights now, and in a few years you will be making

>

> Olympic pool size bubbles with your six story tri strings!

>

>

>

> Cheers!

>

> Bill "Stretch" Coleman

>

> http://stiltpro. blogspot. com/

>

>

>

> --

>

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Mike.

Your Twin Peaks video is really fine.

Too cool to see the Garland String in action up there.  Looks like you wrung
every last bubble out of it.  Awesome.

Thanks too for your heads-up about those telescoping poles from HD.  I've been
looking at them too.

If I come up with anything better than the hiking poles I'm currently using,
I'll let you know.

Adios.

Keith.

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, Mike Miller <mikecanhelp@...> wrote:
>
> I know this is redundant, but I'm proud of this video, in case you didn't
catch it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhUm2QW6HGA
> My first attempt at Home Depot variety telescoping Window Washer poles showed
up at the Exploratorium in November. 8 foot poles that retract to about 3 feet,
not terribly light, $15 and putting them away damp quickly resulted in lots of
rust. Disappointing. Searching telescoping poles took me to a site that sells
those lovely ultralight poles...for hundreds of dollars...so I'm looking for
pole deals too...
> bubbletravels.blogspot.com
>
> Mike L. Miller
> Developmental Learning Specialist
> http://mikecanhelp.net
> Click here to check schedule
> 415/264-0227
>
> --- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bill Coleman <stretch@...> wrote:
>
> From: Bill Coleman <stretch@...>
> Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals
> To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:58 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>       >
>
> > Long Bubble poles:
>
> > Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend
>
> > to 20' I think. That's the ticket.
>
>
>
> Actually, they make them to over 60 foot in length out of carbon fiber
>
> with prices to match!  2K + or - .
>
>
>
> These long poles were developed to replace ladders when the UK virtually
>
> outlawed ladders for "safety" reasons.  No reports on how many wrenched
>
> backs and torn shoulders as a result of using the poles.  But what do I
>
> know, I'm just a clown!
>
>
>
> So start lifting weights now, and in a few years you will be making
>
> Olympic pool size bubbles with your six story tri strings!
>
>
>
> Cheers!
>
> Bill "Stretch" Coleman
>
> http://stiltpro. blogspot. com/
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Sly,

Downloading now.  What a fantastic Holiday gift!

Thank you for sharing.

Keith.

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Sylvain" <slaioo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi my friends,
>
> It has been a long time since i post here.
>
> I have a gift for you. The video of a Pep Bou's show, Rebuplanetes. I saw it
two months ago and i managed to record it with my camera. You can download the
400 meg file (1 hour lenght)here http://dl.free.fr/p9NbzdsBM
>
> Tell me if you can download it.
>
> See you soon on SBF,
>
> Regards,
>
> Sly
>
> http://www.pepbou.com/
>

I know this is redundant, but I'm proud of this video, in case you didn't catch
it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhUm2QW6HGA
My first attempt at Home Depot variety telescoping Window Washer poles showed up
at the Exploratorium in November. 8 foot poles that retract to about 3 feet, not
terribly light, $15 and putting them away damp quickly resulted in lots of rust.
Disappointing. Searching telescoping poles took me to a site that sells those
lovely ultralight poles...for hundreds of dollars...so I'm looking for pole
deals too...
bubbletravels.blogspot.com

Mike L. Miller
Developmental Learning Specialist
http://mikecanhelp.net
Click here to check schedule
415/264-0227

--- On Fri, 12/11/09, Bill Coleman <stretch@...> wrote:

From: Bill Coleman <stretch@...>
Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re:Poles and goals
To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 4:58 PM







 









       >

> Long Bubble poles:

> Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend

> to 20' I think. That's the ticket.



Actually, they make them to over 60 foot in length out of carbon fiber

with prices to match!  2K + or - .



These long poles were developed to replace ladders when the UK virtually

outlawed ladders for "safety" reasons.  No reports on how many wrenched

backs and torn shoulders as a result of using the poles.  But what do I

know, I'm just a clown!



So start lifting weights now, and in a few years you will be making

Olympic pool size bubbles with your six story tri strings!



Cheers!

Bill "Stretch" Coleman

http://stiltpro. blogspot. com/



--




















[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Another way is not to use poles, check out the guy
http://maartenrutgers.org/ click on 'fun' in the frame.


   _____

From: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Coleman
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 12:07 PM
To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re: Banner poles




> I've found 12 foot poles to be a good size for long bubble sessions.
> 16 foot poles create so much leverage that I get worn out pretty quickly.
>
> All my best,
>
> Dustin

Just for grins, try running a strap from each hand to around the back of
your shoulders. My first effort would be to sew the strap ends to the
back of a fingerless glove. You might also try adding a section of
bungee or elastic.
Just a thought experiment, your results may vary.

Bill Coleman

--






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> I've found 12 foot poles to be a good size for long bubble sessions.
> 16 foot poles create so much leverage that I get worn out pretty quickly.
>
> All my best,
>
> Dustin


Just for grins, try running a strap from each hand to around the back of
your shoulders.  My first effort would be to sew the strap ends to the
back of a fingerless glove.  You might also try adding a section of
bungee or elastic.
Just a thought experiment, your results may vary.

Bill Coleman

--

>
> Long Bubble poles:
> Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend
> to 20' I think. That's the ticket.


Actually, they make them to over 60 foot in length out of carbon fiber
with prices to match!  2K + or - .

These long poles were developed to replace ladders when the UK virtually
outlawed ladders for "safety" reasons.  No reports on how many wrenched
backs and torn shoulders as a result of using the poles.  But what do I
know, I'm just a clown!

So start lifting weights now, and in a few years you will be making
Olympic pool size bubbles with your six story tri strings!

Cheers!
Bill "Stretch" Coleman
http://stiltpro.blogspot.com/

--

Hernan: I don't think the coldness of the air should be popping bubbles.
If the relative humidity is low, then the bubbles will evaporate more
water, thinning them and causing popping (particularly if you are doing
bubbles indoors when it is colder out doors, the relative humidity will
be low unless you are humidifying the air). There is a school of thought
(maybe consensus) that if the fluid itself is cold, that will decrease
the evaporation and the liquid will be more viscous, slowing down the
draining of the fluid to the bottom; you might experiment with that. If
you are using my mix, then I suggest you add more water to the mix
(dilute more like 5 to 1 rather than 3 to 1). Also, we did not add lube
to the fluid we brewed on Sunday. I suggest adding a small amount (maybe
2 tablespoons to a gallon of diluted mix) and stir it in well.

And practice and patience are good ingredients in any mix; you can add
liberal amounts of each.

Sterling

Hernan wrote:
>
> Here is a question that has been asked before but I can not find it
> with a search of old messages.
>
> My bubbles seem a bit fragile and pop pretty damn fast.
>
> Is it because the air is so cold?
>
> Or do I need some patience and practice?
>
>

Here is a question that has been asked before but I can not find it with a
search of old messages.

My bubbles seem a bit fragile and pop pretty damn fast.

Is it because the air is so cold?

Or do I need some patience and practice?

I have never built one of these.

I wonder if a regular fishing pole would not suffice.

I love my travelers but they all snapped and I have owned 5 believe it or not.
I put more stress on them then a big bubble would still.

The tourmaster while bigger is also sturdier.

They have a 35 foot pole (I think, I forget-forgive me)

I wonder how long till Sterling tackles that one.

Thanks Sterling,

It appears that the Traveler model is the one I want. Can you send the owner's
email address so I can inquire if he has more? Thanks! DS

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@...>
wrote:
>
> Addendum:  The Traveler poles are no longer advertised; I ordered by
> email through the owner based on an email he sent to Hernan that was
> forwarded to me.  When I know more, I will post it here.
> Sterling
>
> Sterling Johnson wrote:
> > The poles that Hernan had, and the heavier ones that I had at the E
> > event, are manufactured by GombergKites.com. If you go to their site you
> > will see how you can order; the current version is called "TourMaster".
> > The older lighter version is called Traveler. I just ordered 2 of the
> > Traveler poles and asked how many more of those they had; I will let you
> > know what response they give me. I have two of the TourMaster poles
> > already and they are too heavy for big tri-strings if you are going to
> > do them for an hour or more (these are the extended poles which I had at
> > the E and which I loaned to Mike; the solid fiberglass poles, 9' in
> > length, are different). Both Traveler and Tourmaster sell for $40/pole
> > plus shipping.
> >
> > Sterling
> >
> > David wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then
> >> yes please send contact information. Thanks very much! DS
> >>
> >> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> >> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> >> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
> >>> same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me
> >>>
> >> know
> >>
> >>> if you want contact info.
> >>> Sterling
> >>>
> >>> David wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
> >>>>
> >>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>
> >> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> >>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house
> >>>>>
> >> yesterday
> >>
> >>>>> afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a
> >>>>>
> >> Gomberg
> >>
> >>>>> pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
> >>>>> streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The
> >>>>>
> >> one he
> >>
> >>>>> had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make
> >>>>>
> >> this light
> >>
> >>>>> a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the
> >>>>>
> >> thing was
> >>
> >>>>> lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
> >>>>> would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent
> >>>>>
> >> emails
> >>
> >>>>> to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
> >>>>> Sterling
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I
> >>>>>>
> >> find. DS
> >>
> >>>>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>
> >> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> >>>>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were
> >>>>>>>
> >> given to
> >>
> >>>>>> me by
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> like them
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> poles (you
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> but they
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> years ago
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them
> >>>>>>>
> >> anymore). I
> >>
> >>>> tried
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for
> >>>>>>>
> >> the same
> >>
> >>>>>>> length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> disadvantage of
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go
> >>>>>>>
> >> from the
> >>
> >>>>>>> passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and
> >>>>>>>
> >> most
> >>
> >>>> of the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with
> >>>>>>>
> >> passengers).
> >>
> >>>>>> Also,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> shipped. I
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> will look around and let you know if I find a source.
> >>>>>>> Sterling
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> David wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like
> >>>>>>>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>>> one
> >>>>
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck
> >>>>>>>>
> >> finding
> >>
> >>>>>> banner
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> >>>>>>>>
> >> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling
> >>>>>>>>
> >> Johnson
> >>
> >>>>>>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> experimented with
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> (smallest is
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> openings
> >>>>
> >>>>>> about
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> net in
> >>
> >>>>>> heavy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> sometimes the
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> wind
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
> >>>>>>>>> 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> again I am
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> releases the
> >>
> >>>>>> bubbles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> openings.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> alternatively, as
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> the net
> >>
> >>>>>> if the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wind is too light.
> >>>>>>>>> 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> different than
> >>
> >>>>>> the foam
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> and the
> >>
> >>>>>>>> foam as
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> experience is
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> all pop.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> It is
> >>
> >>>> almost
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> masses
> >>
> >>>> of foam
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> (including running straight into them) is almost
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> irresistible to
> >>>>
> >>>>>> kids.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> quickly,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> of the
> >>
> >>>>>> pan. The
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> available
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> net will
> >>
> >>>>>> benefit
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> already
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> available products (usually intended for a totally different
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> purpose)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> available
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> netting these days will be made from nylon or
> >>>>>>>>>
> >> polypropylene,
> >>
> >>>> and
> >>>>
> >>>>>> will
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Happy researching.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Sterling
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Mike Miller wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Hey!
> >>>>>>>>>> So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> like Twin
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> once a
> >>>>
> >>>>>> year in
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> try and
> >>
> >>>>>> figure
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> bubble
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> playing and
> >>
> >>>>>> exploring
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> becoming
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> think all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> work
> >>>>
> >>>>>> wonders
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> if I go with the flow.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo!
> >>>>>>>>>> I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
> >>>>>>>>>> so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> creating many
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> researched
> >>
> >>>> SBF and
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> also
> >>
> >>>>>> wondering
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> in a
> >>>>
> >>>>>> windier
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ground a roll
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> away, looking more like pollution than a source of
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> wonder.
> >>
> >>>> I found
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> hammocks,
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> thick-at-the-top
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway,
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> without
> >>
> >>>>>> rehashing
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> progress in
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> materials.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>> think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> interesting if I
> >>
> >>>>>> try each
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> location once or twice before moving on, and then
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> rotate back
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>> relates to the
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> of town
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>> spots and
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> exploring...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
> >>>>>>>>>> far...
> >>>>>>>>>> http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> >>
> >>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> >>>>
> >> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> :)
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mike L. Miller
> >>>>>>>>>> Developmental Learning Specialist
> >>>>>>>>>> http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> >>
> >>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> >>
> >>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>>>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> >>
> >>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>
> >>
> >>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> >>
> >>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> >>>>
> >> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>>>
> >>
> >>>>>>>>>> Click here to check schedule
> >>>>>>>>>> 415/264-0227
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Hi Judd,

I'd like to suggest some carbon fiber poles that Cabellas sells.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jsp;jsessionid\
=OVBT5OSVJCXFVLAQBBJCCOFMCAEFGIWE?_DARGS=/cabelas/en/common/catalog/item-link.js\
p_A&_DAV=&id=0031278115800a&navCount=0&podId=0031278&parentId=&masterpathid=&nav\
Action=push&catalogCode=IK&rid=&parentType=&indexId=&cmCat=netcon&cm_ven=netcon&\
cm_cat=Google&cm_pla=telescopic%20crappie%20pole&cm_ite=netcon&rid=0180101070502\
&hasJS=true&_requestid=25458&_requestid=348086 I bought a couple awhile back to
take with me on my honeymoon. They collapse down to about 16 inches. They are
extremely lightweight. I got the 14 foot models, and took out the last two
thinnest sections (they were too flexible). I had to epoxy in some new anchor
points. After removing the two thinnest sections they were right around 12 feet
long when extended. They are probably less durable than fiberglass poles, which
is the only downside I've found (other than the price, but $25 each is pretty
good for what you get IMO). I've found 12 foot poles to be a good size for long
bubble sessions. 16 foot poles create so much leverage that I get worn out
pretty quickly.

All my best,

Dustin


--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Judd Shanker" <jshanker@...> wrote:
>
> The path I am pursing for long poles started with a "Duster" that my wife
> own which she will not give up, and does not remember where she bought it.
> Part one is 48" with a handle. The handle is about 1" in diameter with a
> 3/8" diameter hole for the 48" extension. The handle is about 6" long which
> allows for about 3" for each extender.
>
> Since dusters are normally used by persons that may lack arm strength they
> are light. My internet search has not located a match, it has shown that
> extendable dusters may be a fruitful path to pursue.
>
> At the same time I have purchase ordinary dowels at Home depot, same 3/8"
> diameter. A two side screw for interior and a PVC pipe, the same 6" will be
> used for external support. My first attempt will not use glue. Second
> attempt will glue one side. If none work, I will pursue another path. But,
> I am confident, I just don't know how long to go if it works?
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:56 PM
> To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re: Banner poles
>
>
>
>
> Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then yes
> please send contact information. Thanks very much! DS
>
> --- In soapbubblefanciers@ <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> >
> > Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
> > same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me know
> > if you want contact info.
> > Sterling
> >
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
> > >
> > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@ <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house yesterday
> > > > afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a Gomberg
> > > > pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
> > > > streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The one he
> > > > had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make this
> light
> > > > a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the thing was
> > > > lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
> > > > would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent
> emails
> > > > to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
> > > > Sterling
> > > >
> > > > David wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I find. DS
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were given to
> > > > > me by
> > > > > > a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
> > > like them
> > > > > > too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
> > > poles (you
> > > > > > probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
> > > but they
> > > > > > are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
> > > years ago
> > > > > > very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them anymore). I
> > > tried
> > > > > > to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for the
> same
> > > > > > length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
> > > > > disadvantage of
> > > > > > the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go from the
> > > > > > passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and most
> > > of the
> > > > > > way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with passengers).
> > > > > Also,
> > > > > > because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
> > > shipped. I
> > > > > > will look around and let you know if I find a source.
> > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like the
> > > one
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck finding
> > > > > banner
> > > > > > > poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
> > > > > experimented with
> > > > > > > > materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
> > > > > (smallest is
> > > > > > > > triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
> > > openings
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a net
> in
> > > > > heavy
> > > > > > > > wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
> > > sometimes the
> > > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > > is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
> > > > > > > > 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
> > > > > again I am
> > > > > > > > preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo releases the
> > > > > bubbles
> > > > > > > > more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
> > > > > openings.
> > > > > > > > 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
> > > > > alternatively, as
> > > > > > > > at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with the net
> > > > > if the
> > > > > > > > wind is too light.
> > > > > > > > 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be different than
> > > > > the foam
> > > > > > > > in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger, and
> the
> > > > > > > foam as
> > > > > > > > it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
> > > > > > > experience is
> > > > > > > > that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
> > > all pop.
> > > > > > > > Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses. It is
> > > almost
> > > > > > > > always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the masses
> > > of foam
> > > > > > > > (including running straight into them) is almost
> > > irresistible to
> > > > > kids.
> > > > > > > > 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
> > > > > quickly,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top of the
> > > > > pan. The
> > > > > > > > nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > > nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own net
> will
> > > > > benefit
> > > > > > > > you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
> > > already
> > > > > > > > available products (usually intended for a totally different
> > > > > purpose)
> > > > > > > > may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > > netting these days will be made from nylon or polypropylene,
> > > and
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Happy researching.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike Miller wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey!
> > > > > > > > > So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place like
> Twin
> > > > > > > > > Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
> > > once a
> > > > > year in
> > > > > > > > > 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to try
> and
> > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
> > > bubble
> > > > > > > > > weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep playing and
> > > > > exploring
> > > > > > > > > and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
> > > becoming
> > > > > > > > > frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
> > > > > think all
> > > > > > > > > creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
> > > work
> > > > > wonders
> > > > > > > > > if I go with the flow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyhoo!
> > > > > > > > > I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
> > > > > > > > > so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
> > > creating many
> > > > > > > > > bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I researched
> > > SBF and
> > > > > > > > > found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm also
> > > > > wondering
> > > > > > > > > if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
> > > in a
> > > > > windier
> > > > > > > > > place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
> > > > > ground a roll
> > > > > > > > > away, looking more like pollution than a source of wonder.
> > > I found
> > > > > > > > > all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
> > > hammocks,
> > > > > > > > > animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
> > > > > thick-at-the-top
> > > > > > > > > grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway, without
> > > > > rehashing
> > > > > > > > > the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
> > > progress in
> > > > > > > > > portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
> > > materials.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more interesting if
> I
> > > > > try each
> > > > > > > > > location once or twice before moving on, and then rotate
> back
> > > > > > > > > periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
> > > > > relates to the
> > > > > > > > > actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
> > > of town
> > > > > > > > > relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
> > > spots and
> > > > > > > > > sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
> > > > > > > exploring...
> > > > > > > > > Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
> > > > > > > > > far...
> > > > > > > > > http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>>
> > > > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>>>
> > > > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/
> > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> s.blogspot.com/>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike L. Miller
> > > > > > > > > Developmental Learning Specialist
> > > > > > > > > http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net
> <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net>
> > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net <http://mikecanhelp.
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> > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net <http://mikecanhelp.
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> > > > > > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net
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> > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net <http://mikecanhelp.
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> > > > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net
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> > > <http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net <http://mikecanhelp.
> <http://mikecanhelp.net> net>>>>
> > > > > > > > > Click here to check schedule
> > > > > > > > > 415/264-0227
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Addendum:  The Traveler poles are no longer advertised; I ordered by
email through the owner based on an email he sent to Hernan that was
forwarded to me.  When I know more, I will post it here.
Sterling

Sterling Johnson wrote:
> The poles that Hernan had, and the heavier ones that I had at the E
> event, are manufactured by GombergKites.com. If you go to their site you
> will see how you can order; the current version is called "TourMaster".
> The older lighter version is called Traveler. I just ordered 2 of the
> Traveler poles and asked how many more of those they had; I will let you
> know what response they give me. I have two of the TourMaster poles
> already and they are too heavy for big tri-strings if you are going to
> do them for an hour or more (these are the extended poles which I had at
> the E and which I loaned to Mike; the solid fiberglass poles, 9' in
> length, are different). Both Traveler and Tourmaster sell for $40/pole
> plus shipping.
>
> Sterling
>
> David wrote:
>
>> Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then
>> yes please send contact information. Thanks very much! DS
>>
>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
>> <sterlingjo@...> wrote:
>>
>>> Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
>>> same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me
>>>
>> know
>>
>>> if you want contact info.
>>> Sterling
>>>
>>> David wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
>>>>
>>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
>>>>
>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
>>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house
>>>>>
>> yesterday
>>
>>>>> afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a
>>>>>
>> Gomberg
>>
>>>>> pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
>>>>> streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The
>>>>>
>> one he
>>
>>>>> had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make
>>>>>
>> this light
>>
>>>>> a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the
>>>>>
>> thing was
>>
>>>>> lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
>>>>> would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent
>>>>>
>> emails
>>
>>>>> to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
>>>>> Sterling
>>>>>
>>>>> David wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I
>>>>>>
>> find. DS
>>
>>>>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>
>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
>>>>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were
>>>>>>>
>> given to
>>
>>>>>> me by
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
>>>>>>>
>>>> like them
>>>>
>>>>>>> too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
>>>>>>>
>>>> poles (you
>>>>
>>>>>>> probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
>>>>>>>
>>>> but they
>>>>
>>>>>>> are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
>>>>>>>
>>>> years ago
>>>>
>>>>>>> very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them
>>>>>>>
>> anymore). I
>>
>>>> tried
>>>>
>>>>>>> to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for
>>>>>>>
>> the same
>>
>>>>>>> length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> disadvantage of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go
>>>>>>>
>> from the
>>
>>>>>>> passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and
>>>>>>>
>> most
>>
>>>> of the
>>>>
>>>>>>> way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with
>>>>>>>
>> passengers).
>>
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
>>>>>>>
>>>> shipped. I
>>>>
>>>>>>> will look around and let you know if I find a source.
>>>>>>> Sterling
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like
>>>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>> one
>>>>
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck
>>>>>>>>
>> finding
>>
>>>>>> banner
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>>>>
>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>
>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling
>>>>>>>>
>> Johnson
>>
>>>>>>>> <sterlingjo@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> experimented with
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> (smallest is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> openings
>>>>
>>>>>> about
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a
>>>>>>>>>
>> net in
>>
>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> sometimes the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> wind
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> again I am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo
>>>>>>>>>
>> releases the
>>
>>>>>> bubbles
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> openings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> alternatively, as
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with
>>>>>>>>>
>> the net
>>
>>>>>> if the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wind is too light.
>>>>>>>>> 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be
>>>>>>>>>
>> different than
>>
>>>>>> the foam
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger,
>>>>>>>>>
>> and the
>>
>>>>>>>> foam as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> experience is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> all pop.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses.
>>>>>>>>>
>> It is
>>
>>>> almost
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the
>>>>>>>>>
>> masses
>>
>>>> of foam
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (including running straight into them) is almost
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> irresistible to
>>>>
>>>>>> kids.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> quickly,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top
>>>>>>>>>
>> of the
>>
>>>>>> pan. The
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> available
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own
>>>>>>>>>
>> net will
>>
>>>>>> benefit
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
>>>>>>>>>
>>>> already
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> available products (usually intended for a totally different
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> purpose)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> available
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> netting these days will be made from nylon or
>>>>>>>>>
>> polypropylene,
>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>>> will
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Happy researching.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sterling
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>>>>>> So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place
>>>>>>>>>>
>> like Twin
>>
>>>>>>>>>> Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> once a
>>>>
>>>>>> year in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to
>>>>>>>>>>
>> try and
>>
>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> bubble
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep
>>>>>>>>>>
>> playing and
>>
>>>>>> exploring
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> becoming
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> think all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> work
>>>>
>>>>>> wonders
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if I go with the flow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyhoo!
>>>>>>>>>> I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
>>>>>>>>>> so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> creating many
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I
>>>>>>>>>>
>> researched
>>
>>>> SBF and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm
>>>>>>>>>>
>> also
>>
>>>>>> wondering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> in a
>>>>
>>>>>> windier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ground a roll
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> away, looking more like pollution than a source of
>>>>>>>>>>
>> wonder.
>>
>>>> I found
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> hammocks,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> thick-at-the-top
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway,
>>>>>>>>>>
>> without
>>
>>>>>> rehashing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> progress in
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> materials.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more
>>>>>>>>>>
>> interesting if I
>>
>>>>>> try each
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> location once or twice before moving on, and then
>>>>>>>>>>
>> rotate back
>>
>>>>>>>>>> periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> relates to the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> of town
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> spots and
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> exploring...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
>>>>>>>>>> far...
>>>>>>>>>> http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
>>
>>>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
>>>>
>> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike L. Miller
>>>>>>>>>> Developmental Learning Specialist
>>>>>>>>>> http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
>>
>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>
>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>>>
>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
>>
>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>
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>>
>>>>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>>>>>
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>>
>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>
>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>
>>
>>>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>>>
>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
>>
>>>> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
>>>>
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>>
>>>>>>>>>> Click here to check schedule
>>>>>>>>>> 415/264-0227
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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The poles that Hernan had, and the heavier ones that I had at the E
event, are manufactured by GombergKites.com. If you go to their site you
will see how you can order; the current version is called "TourMaster".
The older lighter version is called Traveler. I just ordered 2 of the
Traveler poles and asked how many more of those they had; I will let you
know what response they give me. I have two of the TourMaster poles
already and they are too heavy for big tri-strings if you are going to
do them for an hour or more (these are the extended poles which I had at
the E and which I loaned to Mike; the solid fiberglass poles, 9' in
length, are different). Both Traveler and Tourmaster sell for $40/pole
plus shipping.

Sterling

David wrote:
>
> Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then
> yes please send contact information. Thanks very much! DS
>
> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> <sterlingjo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
> > same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me
> know
> > if you want contact info.
> > Sterling
> >
> > David wrote:
> > >
> > > Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
> > >
> > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house
> yesterday
> > > > afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a
> Gomberg
> > > > pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
> > > > streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The
> one he
> > > > had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make
> this light
> > > > a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the
> thing was
> > > > lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
> > > > would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent
> emails
> > > > to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
> > > > Sterling
> > > >
> > > > David wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I
> find. DS
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were
> given to
> > > > > me by
> > > > > > a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
> > > like them
> > > > > > too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
> > > poles (you
> > > > > > probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
> > > but they
> > > > > > are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
> > > years ago
> > > > > > very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them
> anymore). I
> > > tried
> > > > > > to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for
> the same
> > > > > > length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
> > > > > disadvantage of
> > > > > > the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go
> from the
> > > > > > passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and
> most
> > > of the
> > > > > > way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with
> passengers).
> > > > > Also,
> > > > > > because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
> > > shipped. I
> > > > > > will look around and let you know if I find a source.
> > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like
> the
> > > one
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck
> finding
> > > > > banner
> > > > > > > poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling
> Johnson
> > > > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
> > > > > experimented with
> > > > > > > > materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
> > > > > (smallest is
> > > > > > > > triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
> > > openings
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > > 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a
> net in
> > > > > heavy
> > > > > > > > wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
> > > sometimes the
> > > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > > is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
> > > > > > > > 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
> > > > > again I am
> > > > > > > > preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo
> releases the
> > > > > bubbles
> > > > > > > > more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
> > > > > openings.
> > > > > > > > 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
> > > > > alternatively, as
> > > > > > > > at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with
> the net
> > > > > if the
> > > > > > > > wind is too light.
> > > > > > > > 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be
> different than
> > > > > the foam
> > > > > > > > in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger,
> and the
> > > > > > > foam as
> > > > > > > > it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
> > > > > > > experience is
> > > > > > > > that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
> > > all pop.
> > > > > > > > Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses.
> It is
> > > almost
> > > > > > > > always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the
> masses
> > > of foam
> > > > > > > > (including running straight into them) is almost
> > > irresistible to
> > > > > kids.
> > > > > > > > 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
> > > > > quickly,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top
> of the
> > > > > pan. The
> > > > > > > > nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > > nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own
> net will
> > > > > benefit
> > > > > > > > you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
> > > already
> > > > > > > > available products (usually intended for a totally different
> > > > > purpose)
> > > > > > > > may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
> > > > > available
> > > > > > > > netting these days will be made from nylon or
> polypropylene,
> > > and
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Happy researching.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike Miller wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey!
> > > > > > > > > So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place
> like Twin
> > > > > > > > > Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
> > > once a
> > > > > year in
> > > > > > > > > 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to
> try and
> > > > > figure
> > > > > > > > > out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
> > > bubble
> > > > > > > > > weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep
> playing and
> > > > > exploring
> > > > > > > > > and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
> > > becoming
> > > > > > > > > frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
> > > > > think all
> > > > > > > > > creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
> > > work
> > > > > wonders
> > > > > > > > > if I go with the flow.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyhoo!
> > > > > > > > > I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
> > > > > > > > > so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
> > > creating many
> > > > > > > > > bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I
> researched
> > > SBF and
> > > > > > > > > found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm
> also
> > > > > wondering
> > > > > > > > > if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
> > > in a
> > > > > windier
> > > > > > > > > place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
> > > > > ground a roll
> > > > > > > > > away, looking more like pollution than a source of
> wonder.
> > > I found
> > > > > > > > > all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
> > > hammocks,
> > > > > > > > > animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
> > > > > thick-at-the-top
> > > > > > > > > grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway,
> without
> > > > > rehashing
> > > > > > > > > the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
> > > progress in
> > > > > > > > > portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
> > > materials.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more
> interesting if I
> > > > > try each
> > > > > > > > > location once or twice before moving on, and then
> rotate back
> > > > > > > > > periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
> > > > > relates to the
> > > > > > > > > actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
> > > of town
> > > > > > > > > relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
> > > spots and
> > > > > > > > > sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
> > > > > > > exploring...
> > > > > > > > > Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
> > > > > > > > > far...
> > > > > > > > > http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
> > > > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>
> > > > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
> > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mike L. Miller
> > > > > > > > > Developmental Learning Specialist
> > > > > > > > > http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> > > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
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> > > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
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> > > > > > > > > Click here to check schedule
> > > > > > > > > 415/264-0227
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > > >
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The path I am pursing for long poles started with a "Duster" that my wife
own which she will not give up, and does not remember where she bought it.
Part one is 48" with a handle. The handle is about 1" in diameter with a
3/8" diameter hole for the 48" extension. The handle is about 6" long which
allows for about 3" for each extender.

Since dusters are normally used by persons that may lack arm strength they
are light. My internet search has not located a match, it has shown that
extendable dusters may be a fruitful path to pursue.

At the same time I have purchase ordinary dowels at Home depot, same 3/8"
diameter. A two side screw for interior and a PVC pipe, the same 6" will be
used for external support. My first attempt will not use glue. Second
attempt will glue one side. If none work, I will pursue another path. But,
I am confident, I just don't know how long to go if it works?


   _____

From: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 5:56 PM
To: soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Soap Bubble Fanciers] Re: Banner poles




Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then yes
please send contact information. Thanks very much! DS

--- In soapbubblefanciers@ <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@...> wrote:
>
> Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
> same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me know
> if you want contact info.
> Sterling
>
> David wrote:
> >
> > Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
> >
> > --- In soapbubblefanciers@ <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house yesterday
> > > afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a Gomberg
> > > pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
> > > streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The one he
> > > had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make this
light
> > > a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the thing was
> > > lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
> > > would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent
emails
> > > to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
> > > Sterling
> > >
> > > David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I find. DS
> > > >
> > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@
<mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were given to
> > > > me by
> > > > > a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
> > like them
> > > > > too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
> > poles (you
> > > > > probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
> > but they
> > > > > are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
> > years ago
> > > > > very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them anymore). I
> > tried
> > > > > to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for the
same
> > > > > length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
> > > > disadvantage of
> > > > > the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go from the
> > > > > passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and most
> > of the
> > > > > way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with passengers).
> > > > Also,
> > > > > because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
> > shipped. I
> > > > > will look around and let you know if I find a source.
> > > > > Sterling
> > > > >
> > > > > David wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like the
> > one
> > > > you
> > > > > > let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck finding
> > > > banner
> > > > > > poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@
<mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
> > > > experimented with
> > > > > > > materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
> > > > (smallest is
> > > > > > > triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
> > openings
> > > > about
> > > > > > > 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a net
in
> > > > heavy
> > > > > > > wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
> > sometimes the
> > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
> > > > > > > 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
> > > > again I am
> > > > > > > preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo releases the
> > > > bubbles
> > > > > > > more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
> > > > openings.
> > > > > > > 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
> > > > alternatively, as
> > > > > > > at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with the net
> > > > if the
> > > > > > > wind is too light.
> > > > > > > 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be different than
> > > > the foam
> > > > > > > in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger, and
the
> > > > > > foam as
> > > > > > > it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
> > > > > > experience is
> > > > > > > that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
> > all pop.
> > > > > > > Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses. It is
> > almost
> > > > > > > always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the masses
> > of foam
> > > > > > > (including running straight into them) is almost
> > irresistible to
> > > > kids.
> > > > > > > 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
> > > > quickly,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top of the
> > > > pan. The
> > > > > > > nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
> > > > available
> > > > > > > nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own net
will
> > > > benefit
> > > > > > > you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
> > already
> > > > > > > available products (usually intended for a totally different
> > > > purpose)
> > > > > > > may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
> > > > available
> > > > > > > netting these days will be made from nylon or polypropylene,
> > and
> > > > will
> > > > > > > not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Happy researching.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Miller wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey!
> > > > > > > > So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place like
Twin
> > > > > > > > Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
> > once a
> > > > year in
> > > > > > > > 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to try
and
> > > > figure
> > > > > > > > out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
> > bubble
> > > > > > > > weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep playing and
> > > > exploring
> > > > > > > > and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
> > becoming
> > > > > > > > frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
> > > > think all
> > > > > > > > creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
> > work
> > > > wonders
> > > > > > > > if I go with the flow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyhoo!
> > > > > > > > I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
> > > > > > > > so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
> > creating many
> > > > > > > > bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I researched
> > SBF and
> > > > > > > > found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm also
> > > > wondering
> > > > > > > > if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
> > in a
> > > > windier
> > > > > > > > place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
> > > > ground a roll
> > > > > > > > away, looking more like pollution than a source of wonder.
> > I found
> > > > > > > > all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
> > hammocks,
> > > > > > > > animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
> > > > thick-at-the-top
> > > > > > > > grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway, without
> > > > rehashing
> > > > > > > > the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
> > progress in
> > > > > > > > portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
> > materials.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more interesting if
I
> > > > try each
> > > > > > > > location once or twice before moving on, and then rotate
back
> > > > > > > > periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
> > > > relates to the
> > > > > > > > actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
> > of town
> > > > > > > > relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
> > spots and
> > > > > > > > sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
> > > > > > exploring...
> > > > > > > > Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
> > > > > > > > far...
> > > > > > > > http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
s.blogspot.com/
> > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
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> > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
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> > > > > > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
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> > <http://bubbletravel <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike L. Miller
> > > > > > > > Developmental Learning Specialist
> > > > > > > > http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net
<http://mikecanhelp. <http://mikecanhelp.net> net>
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> > > > > > > > Click here to check schedule
> > > > > > > > 415/264-0227
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
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Hi Sylvain,

What I really mean is the biosphere is a bubble about to pop. I keep trying to
work this idea into a more understandable (lots of people don't know what the
biosphere is) and memorable slogan of some kind. "Nature as we know it is a
bubble about to pop." It sounds crazy, but on the scale of geological time it's
absolutely true (unless we get the climate effort in high gear pronto.) DS

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Sylvain" <slaioo@...> wrote:
>
> Hi David,
>
> I like your metaphor of the bubble as the earth about to pop!! I don't plan to
go to Copenhagen but our danish bubblers (Martin) maybe plan to bubble at the
conference!! I'm going to ask them through an email.
>
> Sylvain
>
> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidstein6314@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Sylvain, I'm wondering if you or any of the other giant bubble people in
Europe might be going to the Copenhagen climate conference. Looks like there
will be continuous demonstrations outside the conference hall and big bubbles
might help entertain. Also might get across the message that the world as we
know it is a bubble and (viewed on the scale of geological time) it's about to
pop.
> >
> > Also, I know quite a few of us bubble people travel a lot. I've started
offsetting my plane and car trips by planting trees in India via
http://plant-trees.org A good outfit, ten cents per tree, and each tree absorbs
about 50 pounds of carbon per year. They also help the subsistence farmers
involved, providing fruit and firewood. Check it out. DS
> >
> > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Sylvain" <slaioo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi my friends,
> > >
> > > It has been a long time since i post here.
> > >
> > > I have a gift for you. The video of a Pep Bou's show, Rebuplanetes. I saw
it two months ago and i managed to record it with my camera. You can download
the 400 meg file (1 hour lenght)here http://dl.free.fr/p9NbzdsBM
> > >
> > > Tell me if you can download it.
> > >
> > > See you soon on SBF,
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Sly
> > >
> > > http://www.pepbou.com/
> > >
> >
>

Hey, there's no New York category in that magician directory! DS

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Stretch" <stretch@...> wrote:
>
> Here is a directory offering free listings.
>  http://www.xploremagic.com/Magician-Directory/
>
> Cheers!
> Bill Coleman
>

Hi Sterling, if those poles are the same as what you were using, then yes please
send contact information. Thanks very much! DS

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@...>
wrote:
>
> Owner replied that they have a few of the older poles remaining at the
> same price as their lowest price poles: $40/pole + shipping. Let me know
> if you want contact info.
> Sterling
>
> David wrote:
> >
> > Sterling, that's great! Let me know what happens. DS
> >
> > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > >
> > > David: Some serendipity: Hernan Cortez came over to my house yesterday
> > > afternoon to brew some bubble juice and he brought with him a Gomberg
> > > pole designed for attaching a light banner or using to whip a long
> > > streamer around (as Stretch did at the E a few weeks ago). The one he
> > > had was broken, and Hernan thought that Gomberg doesn't make this light
> > > a version anymore because it is subject to breakage. But the thing was
> > > lighter than my 9' poles and collapses into a 2' package; I think it
> > > would be close to ideal for our purposes. Hernan and I each sent emails
> > > to Mr. Gomberg yesterday and will let you know what we learn.
> > > Sterling
> > >
> > > David wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Sterling, I'll keep looking and let you know what I find. DS
> > > >
> > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David: Such a good question. The 9' fiberglass poles were given to
> > > > me by
> > > > > a friend who was throwing them out. I have looked for more (I
> > like them
> > > > > too), and can't find any more. There are telescoping fishing
> > poles (you
> > > > > probably saw the 20' ones I had at the E and loaned to Mike),
> > but they
> > > > > are heavier; Geoff got some 11' poles at Walmart a couple of
> > years ago
> > > > > very inexpensively, but they don't seem to sell them anymore). I
> > tried
> > > > > to make take-apart poles using carbon fiber tubing, and for the same
> > > > > length they are still heavier than the banner poles. The
> > > > disadvantage of
> > > > > the banner pole is that it requires 9' in a car (mine go from the
> > > > > passenger front floor of my Forrester between the seats and most
> > of the
> > > > > way to the back hatch -- OK but a little strange with passengers).
> > > > Also,
> > > > > because of the length, I doubt it would be easy to get them
> > shipped. I
> > > > > will look around and let you know if I find a source.
> > > > > Sterling
> > > > >
> > > > > David wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Sterling, I'm hoping to build a banner pole outfit like the
> > one
> > > > you
> > > > > > let me try at the E but so far I'm not having much luck finding
> > > > banner
> > > > > > poles. Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks! DS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> > > > > > <sterlingjo@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike: I have several large tri-string nets, and have
> > > > experimented with
> > > > > > > materials (cotton vs. bamboo yarn) and with opening size
> > > > (smallest is
> > > > > > > triangular opening of maybe 1" edges; largest is square
> > openings
> > > > about
> > > > > > > 4" on an edge). As you note, you can make bubbles with a net in
> > > > heavy
> > > > > > > wind conditions, and I always bring one along because
> > sometimes the
> > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > is just too strong for anything else. Some observations:
> > > > > > > 1. Cotton holds a lot of fluid but gets -pretty heavy. Once
> > > > again I am
> > > > > > > preferring bamboo as the material. I think bamboo releases the
> > > > bubbles
> > > > > > > more easily, and that is a real concern with a grid of small
> > > > openings.
> > > > > > > 2. It takes a far amount of wind for the net to work;
> > > > alternatively, as
> > > > > > > at the E event a month ago, you can run backwards with the net
> > > > if the
> > > > > > > wind is too light.
> > > > > > > 3. The foam that comes out of a net tends to be different than
> > > > the foam
> > > > > > > in a pan of detergent and water: the bubbles are larger, and the
> > > > > > foam as
> > > > > > > it emerges tends to stay together as a very light blob. My
> > > > > > experience is
> > > > > > > that as the mass of foam hit the ground, often it does not
> > all pop.
> > > > > > > Turbulent winds can tear it apart into smaller masses. It is
> > almost
> > > > > > > always unexpected by people watching, and chasing the masses
> > of foam
> > > > > > > (including running straight into them) is almost
> > irresistible to
> > > > kids.
> > > > > > > 4. The pan into which the net is dipped will get foamy very
> > > > quickly,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > it is a wet foam that is not easily scooped off the top of the
> > > > pan. The
> > > > > > > nets use up bubble juice very quickly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will be interested in what you discover using commercially
> > > > available
> > > > > > > nets. I think that the time it takes to build your own net will
> > > > benefit
> > > > > > > you, but I have often been surprised to discover how well
> > already
> > > > > > > available products (usually intended for a totally different
> > > > purpose)
> > > > > > > may work perfectly when given a chance. I suspect that most
> > > > available
> > > > > > > netting these days will be made from nylon or polypropylene,
> > and
> > > > will
> > > > > > > not serve you well, but I have been wrong before.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Happy researching.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sterling
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mike Miller wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey!
> > > > > > > > So, I was coming to grips with the fact that a place like Twin
> > > > > > > > Peaks in San Francisco may have big bubble weather like
> > once a
> > > > year in
> > > > > > > > 5 minute increments, and I thought it would be fun to try and
> > > > figure
> > > > > > > > out how to make a good display in moderately good or poor
> > bubble
> > > > > > > > weather. Most of all I'm determined to just keep playing and
> > > > exploring
> > > > > > > > and finding out what wonders ARE possible, rather than
> > becoming
> > > > > > > > frustrated because I can't realize some idea in my head--I
> > > > think all
> > > > > > > > creation is a better artist than I am, so I'm more likely
> > work
> > > > wonders
> > > > > > > > if I go with the flow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyhoo!
> > > > > > > > I envisioned a large (6'x8' or
> > > > > > > > so) cotton net on poles that I could dip and unfurl,
> > creating many
> > > > > > > > bubbles or chunks of bubbles... And of course I researched
> > SBF and
> > > > > > > > found that one generally gets foam from a net. But I'm also
> > > > wondering
> > > > > > > > if clumps of bubbles would actually disperse dramatically
> > in a
> > > > windier
> > > > > > > > place in a pleasing way, or if they'd just tumble to the
> > > > ground a roll
> > > > > > > > away, looking more like pollution than a source of wonder.
> > I found
> > > > > > > > all sorts of netting to consider--chefs cotton netting,
> > hammocks,
> > > > > > > > animal control netting...and Sterling's hand woven,
> > > > thick-at-the-top
> > > > > > > > grid design, with ties at each intersection. Anyway, without
> > > > rehashing
> > > > > > > > the old discussions, I'm wondering if anyone has made
> > progress in
> > > > > > > > portable, high-wind friendly bubble-array generating
> > materials.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > think my hilltop bubbling quest will be more interesting if I
> > > > try each
> > > > > > > > location once or twice before moving on, and then rotate back
> > > > > > > > periodically as I get a feel for how the weather report
> > > > relates to the
> > > > > > > > actual weather (ha ha) and how the conditions in one part
> > of town
> > > > > > > > relate to each other part. I suspect I will find great
> > spots and
> > > > > > > > sublime moments galore if I just keep paying attention and
> > > > > > exploring...
> > > > > > > > Here's the (not-sot-thrilling) story so
> > > > > > > > far...
> > > > > > > > http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
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> > > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>
> > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
> > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>
> > > > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
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> > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
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> > > > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/
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> > <http://bubbletravels.blogspot.com/>>>>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > Mike
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mike L. Miller
> > > > > > > > Developmental Learning Specialist
> > > > > > > > http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> > > > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>
> > > > > > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>
> > > > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>
> > <http://mikecanhelp.net <http://mikecanhelp.net>>>>
> > > > > > > > Click here to check schedule
> > > > > > > > 415/264-0227
> > > > > > > >
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Blair: It is my experience that long extension poles which are built to
be able to deliver some force 20' away have to be stiff and heavy to
accomplish the objective. I have some poles with telescoping extensions
built to hold loads from heavy banners, and they are back-breakers. I
think the very light banner poles and fishing rods with long extensions
are better candidates for tri-string rods for world record bubbles. The
alternative is to use the heavier poles, but to have some sling or other
device that moves the weight from arms and hands to shoulders (e.g., the
harness that soldiers in color guards use for marching with heavy flag
poles). Alternatively, Brian has some poles to which he has added
counter weights (on the other side of the hands from the tri-string)
which do not lessen the weight but distribute it so less of the force
involved is wrists struggling to hold a cantilevered weight.
Sterling

bubbleairblair wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> Long Bubble poles:
> Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend
> to 20' I think. That's the ticket. The window washer one for high
> buildings even has a hose attachment. There's a ton of telescoping
> poles out there.
>
> Someone was posting about bubb;leing in wind and bad conditions. It's
> great Sterling, he talks about going with the flow and blowing bubble
> types that work with that weather!
>
> I still have a ton of Korean soap here. Not sure if I'll b4e able to
> use it so let me know if any one needs to do large bubbles for a show.
> I'd still love to do huge tubes that the snow boarders can surf down
> for the Olympics!!!
>
> Cheers all and keep in touch. I try to keep current but it's a bit up
> and down for me.
> Bubbleairblair
>
>

Hi all,
Long Bubble poles:
Why not try the painters or window washer extntion poles? They extend to 20' I
think. That's the ticket. The window washer one for high buildings even has a
hose attachment. There's a ton of telescoping poles out there.

Someone was posting about bubb;leing in wind and bad conditions. It's great
Sterling, he talks about going with the flow and blowing bubble types that work
with that weather!

I still have a ton of Korean soap here. Not sure if I'll b4e able to use it so
let me know if any one needs to do large bubbles for a show. I'd still love to
do huge tubes that the snow boarders can surf down for the Olympics!!!

Cheers all and keep in touch. I try to keep current but it's a bit up and down
for me.
Bubbleairblair

When I have a seated audience, I always send bubbles out over their
heads. It breaks the 4th wall. There is usually anxiety (should I blow
the bubble up, should I duck, should I pop it), and usually someone pops
it. Then the audience can relax a bit: whatever they did was OK, and now
we are doing this together. It may work differently on a street corner,
but I will bet you see the same effect. The same is true when I am at a
corporate event, making bubbles off to the side where people can come in
close; I invite people to roll up their sleeves and try blowing bubbles
with their hands. Usually everyone rejects the idea at first until one
person tries it and obviously enjoys it; then everyone wants to try.
Sterling

Hernan wrote:
>
> This might be obvious to performing pro's.
> And maybe I am way wrong here (having not done this specific crowd
> control 'trick')
>
> But I might be able to break the resistance of adults (to tactily
> enjoy the show)
> by getting the first adult to pop a bubble.
>
> As I parentitised I have not done this, but experience has shown me
> that just blowing bubbles at a group of adults wont guarantee that
> they will reach out and pop a bubble.
>
> I have to find someone who is laughing or smiling with wide open eyes
> and body language.
>
> I may need to prompt her or him. (women make the best volunteers, but
> getting a big moose like male to break character and pop a bubble
> might have more profound effects?)
>
> This process of getting adults to forget being adults is almost a sure
> bet.
>
> So what do I do after I have their compliance?
>
>

> Opera seems so obvious, now that it has been uttered. How about not delving so
deeply into the finer arts?
> But what about a fire performance?

Stay upwind :-)
Bubbles floating into any fire-lit area are great. Might be best to be sure the
f. performers don't mind in advance. If they protest, don't send the bubbles
into their space, stay off to the side at least.  BB

This might be obvious to performing pro's.
And maybe I am way wrong here (having not done this specific crowd control
'trick')

But I might be able to break the resistance of adults (to tactily enjoy the
show)
  by getting the first adult to pop a bubble.

As I parentitised I have not done this, but experience has shown me that just
blowing bubbles at a group of adults wont guarantee that they will reach out and
pop a bubble.

I have to find someone who is laughing or smiling with wide open eyes and body
language.

I may need to prompt her or him. (women make the best volunteers, but getting a
big moose like male to break character and pop a bubble might have more profound
effects?)

This process of getting adults to forget being adults is almost a sure bet.

So what do I do after I have their compliance?

I still like the Opera idea. I didnt mean to sound like I was dismissing it.
Opera was born in Taverns, did you know? When you contemplate the subject
matter, it seems more then obvious it either came from a beer hall or a bathroom
wall.
The macro concept does point up a potential performance angle. Opera is
considered an "evolved" artform and a bubble is considered fragile. Upon closer
examination, nither is true. The bubble is the strongest toughest adaptation to
(for it) an extremely adverse environment. Like Opera, it is almost perfect in
its adaptation to an environment intent on killing it.  (okay,, just shoot me
for pushing the Opera-Bubble analogy too far).

Maybe I can approach it from that angle.



The act while intended for the street is not meant to be confined to street.
I dont know that I can do a full bubble act on the bad weather dominated SF
streets. At any rate it wouldnt be all bubble. Time will tell.

You may not have gotten a lot of money from the Opera crowd because they were
headed in a different direction. People leave for events at the last moment and
do not
factor in time to "smell the roses" or Pop Bubbles for that matter.

Just because there is a crowd does not mean they are eager to be entertained AND
hatted (street term for asking for money) Quite often people will watch whatever
is interesting but they wont feel they owe you money for it. In some situations
they feel like they are doing you a favor.
In these situations half of the entertainment is funny ways of asking for money
or informing people that you expect payment.

There could be big thick books written on the subject, except that people who
are good at it tend to keep the knowledge to themselves.

The gist of the story is that just because a crowd is present doesnt mean they
want to be entertained very well. Eye candy yes, entertained maybe not so much.

It is always better to get a check from the organizers then to depend on ones
ability to hat the general public.
--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@...>
wrote:
>
> Hernan (like Tom, and maybe others?) has a background as a street
> performer, and wants to integrate what he does into his set of other
> skills. So the answers for him to these questions might be different
> than for some other performers, but I think these are such rich
> questions for all performers. So, probably as much for my own benefit as
> for whatever wisdom I have to pass on, let me make a first attempt at these:
> 1. What isn't being done? Probably easier to ask what is being done and
> then notice how little territory that covers. Kid's birthday parties and
> school shows and library shows are being done by many of us. Some
> corporate events and adult parties are being done by some of us. Stage
> shows dedicated to just bubbles are being done by a lucky few of us
> (Fan, Louis, Tom, Pep, others?). Doing bubbles as one act of a
> variety/cabaret show is a wonderful niche that a few of us have found
> (Tom, me, others?). Doing bubbles in the park or on the beach without
> compensation is becoming more common. Doing bubbles on stilts as a
> walk-around entertainment (Stretch) is also happening. A few folks have
> done bubbles in a circus environment (Pic, Burl, Casey). I know there
> are a few street performers who do bubbles , particularly in Santa
> Monica. So one thing that would be interesting, Hernan, would be a 8-10
> minute show (is that the right amount for a street performer?) that
> could be done on a street corner in varying wind and weather conditions,
> that requires easily portable equipment, that gathers the crowd and
> holds their attention and engages them. I would love to see you develop
> that. Another approach to this is to take the entertainment section of
> the local Sunday newspaper, look at the wide variety of forms of
> entertainment, and for each one ask, "How could I integrate bubbles
> either into that form of entertainment or add it to that form?" For
> example: opera and ballet -- there are often waiting lines for people to
> get into the venue, and people going outside during intermission.
> Dressed elegantly and performing elegantly, the simple pleasure of
> bubbles might find a welcome audience (willing to feed the hat). My
> sense is that many of the ideas you might generate from this won't work,
> but you probably will only find out if you try it.
> 2. What would I like to see done? Move drama / story-telling into
> performance. Develop an act for adults that is so good that people don't
> think "Oh, I could take my kid to this" but want to see it just for
> themselves. More partnership between bubbles and live music (and I hear
> Louis' show does that very well).
> 3. What is overdone? Using Tom's amazing tricks just the way Tom does
> (imagine doing the cube totally differently).
> 4. Important for every performance? Breaking down the 4th wall,
> connecting with the audience. For me, letting myself see the bubbles
> freshly so I can be amazed at them all over again, and the audience can
> share my amazement.
> 5. Beginner's mistakes? Believing that you have to do it the way we
> dinosaurs do it.
>
> Please keep us informed, Hernan, as you develop your skills in this and
> find a new form, a new style, a new way to present bubbles.
>
> Sterling
>
> Hernan wrote:
> >
> > I had the great fortune to spend a
> > moist Mt.Tam sunday eve
> > learning to brew bubble juice
> > two different ways, from the generous and learned Alchemist, Sterling.
> >
> > What a wonderful gift! Thank you very much Sterling and
> > thanks to the people who shared knowledge with you.
> >
> > I already perform other variety arts and soon will perform with bubbles.
> > It is important to me to have a unique show. My magic act belongs to
> > someone else, my swordswallowing is my own but pretty near what you
> > will see anywhere else. I dont mind stealing, I just would like to do
> > something different.
> > Or at least TRY to do something different.
> >
> > So my question to Sterling and to you SBFer's.
> > What isnt being done?
> > What would you like to see done with the art today?
> > What is overdone and nearly cliche?
> > What is an important thing to include in every performance?
> >
> > What are some of the mistakes that beginner bubble performers make?
> >
> > Thanks for all your time and energy it takes to answer one two or all
> > of these questions.
> >
> >
>

Hernan: I have no instincts for getting a crowd on a street to
contribute to a hat, and so I don't know how to build that act. I
dressed up in black tails and white tie and set up to make bubbles
across the street from the Black and White Ball this past summer
(charity gala in the afternoon for symphony patrons; everyone wears
black and white). The folks arriving who passed by me appreciated what I
was doing very much. As did some of the street people wandering by. I
had no expectation of getting tips (I am always astounded when people
tip me!), just being part of the experience. Waiting lines for anything
present an opportunity. Figuring out how to make the act durable enough
that the wind doesn't ruin it, protect against getting the sidewalk
slippery, and persuading people to pay the hat -- if you accomplish
that, I will recommend you for the bubbler blowers hall of fame.
Sterling

Hernan wrote:
>
> Sterling,
> Thanks again for taking the time to put down your thoughts.
> I really like the idea of adding bubbles to any act that I might find
> in the papers.
> A creative exercise worth doing on a regular basis. Or reverse it and
> write the seperate ingredients into a homogenous whole.
> Opera seems so obvious, now that it has been uttered. How about not
> delving so deeply into the finer arts?
> But what about a fire performance?
> Or a popular song sung by a chanteuse?
>
> The cowbell reference?
> It was to the fact that one could possibly accent a
> variety act with bubbles. A quick wand wave adding the qualities of a
> bubble to
> any act or theatrical movement. Adding color, kinetics, drama, surprise
>
> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:soapbubblefanciers%40yahoogroups.com>, Sterling Johnson
> <sterlingjo@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hernan (like Tom, and maybe others?) has a background as a street
> > performer, and wants to integrate what he does into his set of other
> > skills. So the answers for him to these questions might be different
> > than for some other performers, but I think these are such rich
> > questions for all performers. So, probably as much for my own
> benefit as
> > for whatever wisdom I have to pass on, let me make a first attempt
> at these:
> > 1. What isn't being done? Probably easier to ask what is being done and
> > then notice how little territory that covers. Kid's birthday parties
> and
> > school shows and library shows are being done by many of us. Some
> > corporate events and adult parties are being done by some of us. Stage
> > shows dedicated to just bubbles are being done by a lucky few of us
> > (Fan, Louis, Tom, Pep, others?). Doing bubbles as one act of a
> > variety/cabaret show is a wonderful niche that a few of us have found
> > (Tom, me, others?). Doing bubbles in the park or on the beach without
> > compensation is becoming more common. Doing bubbles on stilts as a
> > walk-around entertainment (Stretch) is also happening. A few folks have
> > done bubbles in a circus environment (Pic, Burl, Casey). I know there
> > are a few street performers who do bubbles , particularly in Santa
> > Monica. So one thing that would be interesting, Hernan, would be a 8-10
> > minute show (is that the right amount for a street performer?) that
> > could be done on a street corner in varying wind and weather
> conditions,
> > that requires easily portable equipment, that gathers the crowd and
> > holds their attention and engages them. I would love to see you develop
> > that. Another approach to this is to take the entertainment section of
> > the local Sunday newspaper, look at the wide variety of forms of
> > entertainment, and for each one ask, "How could I integrate bubbles
> > either into that form of entertainment or add it to that form?" For
> > example: opera and ballet -- there are often waiting lines for
> people to
> > get into the venue, and people going outside during intermission.
> > Dressed elegantly and performing elegantly, the simple pleasure of
> > bubbles might find a welcome audience (willing to feed the hat). My
> > sense is that many of the ideas you might generate from this won't
> work,
> > but you probably will only find out if you try it.
> > 2. What would I like to see done? Move drama / story-telling into
> > performance. Develop an act for adults that is so good that people
> don't
> > think "Oh, I could take my kid to this" but want to see it just for
> > themselves. More partnership between bubbles and live music (and I hear
> > Louis' show does that very well).
> > 3. What is overdone? Using Tom's amazing tricks just the way Tom does
> > (imagine doing the cube totally differently).
> > 4. Important for every performance? Breaking down the 4th wall,
> > connecting with the audience. For me, letting myself see the bubbles
> > freshly so I can be amazed at them all over again, and the audience can
> > share my amazement.
> > 5. Beginner's mistakes? Believing that you have to do it the way we
> > dinosaurs do it.
> >
> > Please keep us informed, Hernan, as you develop your skills in this and
> > find a new form, a new style, a new way to present bubbles.
> >
> > Sterling
> >
> > Hernan wrote:
> > >
> > > I had the great fortune to spend a
> > > moist Mt.Tam sunday eve
> > > learning to brew bubble juice
> > > two different ways, from the generous and learned Alchemist, Sterling.
> > >
> > > What a wonderful gift! Thank you very much Sterling and
> > > thanks to the people who shared knowledge with you.
> > >
> > > I already perform other variety arts and soon will perform with
> bubbles.
> > > It is important to me to have a unique show. My magic act belongs to
> > > someone else, my swordswallowing is my own but pretty near what you
> > > will see anywhere else. I dont mind stealing, I just would like to do
> > > something different.
> > > Or at least TRY to do something different.
> > >
> > > So my question to Sterling and to you SBFer's.
> > > What isnt being done?
> > > What would you like to see done with the art today?
> > > What is overdone and nearly cliche?
> > > What is an important thing to include in every performance?
> > >
> > > What are some of the mistakes that beginner bubble performers make?
> > >
> > > Thanks for all your time and energy it takes to answer one two or all
> > > of these questions.
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>

Hi David,

I like your metaphor of the bubble as the earth about to pop!! I don't plan to
go to Copenhagen but our danish bubblers (Martin) maybe plan to bubble at the
conference!! I'm going to ask them through an email.

Sylvain

--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "David" <davidstein6314@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sylvain, I'm wondering if you or any of the other giant bubble people in
Europe might be going to the Copenhagen climate conference. Looks like there
will be continuous demonstrations outside the conference hall and big bubbles
might help entertain. Also might get across the message that the world as we
know it is a bubble and (viewed on the scale of geological time) it's about to
pop.
>
> Also, I know quite a few of us bubble people travel a lot. I've started
offsetting my plane and car trips by planting trees in India via
http://plant-trees.org A good outfit, ten cents per tree, and each tree absorbs
about 50 pounds of carbon per year. They also help the subsistence farmers
involved, providing fruit and firewood. Check it out. DS
>
> --- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Sylvain" <slaioo@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi my friends,
> >
> > It has been a long time since i post here.
> >
> > I have a gift for you. The video of a Pep Bou's show, Rebuplanetes. I saw it
two months ago and i managed to record it with my camera. You can download the
400 meg file (1 hour lenght)here http://dl.free.fr/p9NbzdsBM
> >
> > Tell me if you can download it.
> >
> > See you soon on SBF,
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Sly
> >
> > http://www.pepbou.com/
> >
>

You are warmer in Denver!
Gawd, it is like 50 degrees here inside my hotel room.

I used some of Sterlings heated mix at a christmas tree lighting. No pay just
paying his gift forward.
My hands were frozen when I was done.
I can not do sculptures yet but was hoping to get a hang of manipulating the
bubbles.
No Go in the cold!

Possibly just no talent as of yet.

But the kids loved it!
If sterling could get a dollar for every smile I created with bubbling last
night,
he could buy every pallette of Mr B. left.

I may take some gloves out tonight.


--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, "Stretch" <stretch@...> wrote:
>
> Just back from entertaining in Surprise, AZ. Brrr, it is COLD in Denver!
>
> So just to quell any doubts about my sanity, I took my frozen to slush pail of
- and somewhat dried out/dehydrated  Dawn Direct out on the front porch, and
tried to blow tiny bubbles.  Not so successful!  OK indoors after the solution
had warmed a bit, but stepping back out into the 12 degree and no doubt bone dry
air pretty much killed the tiny bubbles.
>
> So just for grins, I added a splash of ordinary automobile windshield  washer
antifreeze. (menthanol)  The solution was warmer than before, but still cold to
the touch.  Many more bubbles produced when I stepped back outside.
>
> Having satisfied my bubble jones for the day, I retreated to the relative
comfort of my 67 degree addition/back room/office/workshop.
>
> Cheers!
> Bill Coleman
>

Sterling,
Thanks again for taking the time to put down your thoughts.
I really like the idea of adding bubbles to any act that I might find in the
papers.
A creative exercise worth doing on a regular basis. Or reverse it and write the
seperate ingredients into a homogenous whole.
Opera seems so obvious, now that it has been uttered. How about not delving so
deeply into the finer arts?
But what about a fire performance?
Or a popular song sung by a chanteuse?


The cowbell reference?
It was to the fact that one could possibly accent a
variety act with bubbles. A quick wand wave adding the qualities of a bubble to
any act or theatrical movement. Adding color, kinetics, drama, surprise


--- In soapbubblefanciers@yahoogroups.com, Sterling Johnson <sterlingjo@...>
wrote:
>
> Hernan (like Tom, and maybe others?) has a background as a street
> performer, and wants to integrate what he does into his set of other
> skills. So the answers for him to these questions might be different
> than for some other performers, but I think these are such rich
> questions for all performers. So, probably as much for my own benefit as
> for whatever wisdom I have to pass on, let me make a first attempt at these:
> 1. What isn't being done? Probably easier to ask what is being done and
> then notice how little territory that covers. Kid's birthday parties and
> school shows and library shows are being done by many of us. Some
> corporate events and adult parties are being done by some of us. Stage
> shows dedicated to just bubbles are being done by a lucky few of us
> (Fan, Louis, Tom, Pep, others?). Doing bubbles as one act of a
> variety/cabaret show is a wonderful niche that a few of us have found
> (Tom, me, others?). Doing bubbles in the park or on the beach without
> compensation is becoming more common. Doing bubbles on stilts as a
> walk-around entertainment (Stretch) is also happening. A few folks have
> done bubbles in a circus environment (Pic, Burl, Casey). I know there
> are a few street performers who do bubbles , particularly in Santa
> Monica. So one thing that would be interesting, Hernan, would be a 8-10
> minute show (is that the right amount for a street performer?) that
> could be done on a street corner in varying wind and weather conditions,
> that requires easily portable equipment, that gathers the crowd and
> holds their attention and engages them. I would love to see you develop
> that. Another approach to this is to take the entertainment section of
> the local Sunday newspaper, look at the wide variety of forms of
> entertainment, and for each one ask, "How could I integrate bubbles
> either into that form of entertainment or add it to that form?" For
> example: opera and ballet -- there are often waiting lines for people to
> get into the venue, and people going outside during intermission.
> Dressed elegantly and performing elegantly, the simple pleasure of
> bubbles might find a welcome audience (willing to feed the hat). My
> sense is that many of the ideas you might generate from this won't work,
> but you probably will only find out if you try it.
> 2. What would I like to see done? Move drama / story-telling into
> performance. Develop an act for adults that is so good that people don't
> think "Oh, I could take my kid to this" but want to see it just for
> themselves. More partnership between bubbles and live music (and I hear
> Louis' show does that very well).
> 3. What is overdone? Using Tom's amazing tricks just the way Tom does
> (imagine doing the cube totally differently).
> 4. Important for every performance? Breaking down the 4th wall,
> connecting with the audience. For me, letting myself see the bubbles
> freshly so I can be amazed at them all over again, and the audience can
> share my amazement.
> 5. Beginner's mistakes? Believing that you have to do it the way we
> dinosaurs do it.
>
> Please keep us informed, Hernan, as you develop your skills in this and
> find a new form, a new style, a new way to present bubbles.
>
> Sterling
>
> Hernan wrote:
> >
> > I had the great fortune to spend a
> > moist Mt.Tam sunday eve
> > learning to brew bubble juice
> > two different ways, from the generous and learned Alchemist, Sterling.
> >
> > What a wonderful gift! Thank you very much Sterling and
> > thanks to the people who shared knowledge with you.
> >
> > I already perform other variety arts and soon will perform with bubbles.
> > It is important to me to have a unique show. My magic act belongs to
> > someone else, my swordswallowing is my own but pretty near what you
> > will see anywhere else. I dont mind stealing, I just would like to do
> > something different.
> > Or at least TRY to do something different.
> >
> > So my question to Sterling and to you SBFer's.
> > What isnt being done?
> > What would you like to see done with the art today?
> > What is overdone and nearly cliche?
> > What is an important thing to include in every performance?
> >
> > What are some of the mistakes that beginner bubble performers make?
> >
> > Thanks for all your time and energy it takes to answer one two or all
> > of these questions.
> >
> >
>

Hernan (like Tom, and maybe others?) has a background as a street
performer, and wants to integrate what he does into his set of other
skills. So the answers for him to these questions might be different
than for some other performers, but I think these are such rich
questions for all performers. So, probably as much for my own benefit as
for whatever wisdom I have to pass on, let me make a first attempt at these:
1. What isn't being done? Probably easier to ask what is being done and
then notice how little territory that covers. Kid's birthday parties and
school shows and library shows are being done by many of us. Some
corporate events and adult parties are being done by some of us. Stage
shows dedicated to just bubbles are being done by a lucky few of us
(Fan, Louis, Tom, Pep, others?). Doing bubbles as one act of a
variety/cabaret show is a wonderful niche that a few of us have found
(Tom, me, others?). Doing bubbles in the park or on the beach without
compensation is becoming more common. Doing bubbles on stilts as a
walk-around entertainment (Stretch) is also happening. A few folks have
done bubbles in a circus environment (Pic, Burl, Casey). I know there
are a few street performers who do bubbles , particularly in Santa
Monica. So one thing that would be interesting, Hernan, would be a 8-10
minute show (is that the right amount for a street performer?) that
could be done on a street corner in varying wind and weather conditions,
that requires easily portable equipment, that gathers the crowd and
holds their attention and engages them. I would love to see you develop
that. Another approach to this is to take the entertainment section of
the local Sunday newspaper, look at the wide variety of forms of
entertainment, and for each one ask, "How could I integrate bubbles
either into that form of entertainment or add it to that form?" For
example: opera and ballet -- there are often waiting lines for people to
get into the venue, and people going outside during intermission.
Dressed elegantly and performing elegantly, the simple pleasure of
bubbles might find a welcome audience (willing to feed the hat). My
sense is that many of the ideas you might generate from this won't work,
but you probably will only find out if you try it.
2. What would I like to see done? Move drama / story-telling into
performance. Develop an act for adults that is so good that people don't
think "Oh, I could take my kid to this" but want to see it just for
themselves. More partnership between bubbles and live music (and I hear
Louis' show does that very well).
3. What is overdone? Using Tom's amazing tricks just the way Tom does
(imagine doing the cube totally differently).
4. Important for every performance? Breaking down the 4th wall,
connecting with the audience. For me, letting myself see the bubbles
freshly so I can be amazed at them all over again, and the audience can
share my amazement.
5. Beginner's mistakes? Believing that you have to do it the way we
dinosaurs do it.

Please keep us informed, Hernan, as you develop your skills in this and
find a new form, a new style, a new way to present bubbles.

Sterling

Hernan wrote:
>
> I had the great fortune to spend a
> moist Mt.Tam sunday eve
> learning to brew bubble juice
> two different ways, from the generous and learned Alchemist, Sterling.
>
> What a wonderful gift! Thank you very much Sterling and
> thanks to the people who shared knowledge with you.
>
> I already perform other variety arts and soon will perform with bubbles.
> It is important to me to have a unique show. My magic act belongs to
> someone else, my swordswallowing is my own but pretty near what you
> will see anywhere else. I dont mind stealing, I just would like to do
> something different.
> Or at least TRY to do something different.
>
> So my question to Sterling and to you SBFer's.
> What isnt being done?
> What would you like to see done with the art today?
> What is overdone and nearly cliche?
> What is an important thing to include in every performance?
>
> What are some of the mistakes that beginner bubble performers make?
>
> Thanks for all your time and energy it takes to answer one two or all
> of these questions.
>
>