Wait a minute I should have looked at the numbers.   I'll see what it is doing
in 2 hrs then decide???????

--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer,
>
> It saw the numbers and did not believe it.  I was almost certain that the NW
flow in My back yard killed the Katabatic flow. Good job at getting a seshin
J-mac.
>
> Anyway I'll represent and head up early today so that I can watch my homeboys
play later this afternoon (it's a Cinderella story only 40yrs in the making,
they'll probably blow it).
>
> Planning a 10am departure and returning from Camas ~2 ish.
>
>
> Eddy @ Gear Daddy LLC
> geardaddyllc@...
> 208-863-6966
>
> On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Jason wrote:
>
> >
> > That's what all the Hood River & Bend guys who were out in full force at
Last Resort kept asking all day.
> >
> > I for the life of me couldn't imagine why we had the place to ourselves,
bluebird sky with 3-5" of fresh trackless POW and decent winds for a light day.
Between 3-6pm it was steadily blowing mid to upper teens, although the Pine
Turnoff meter read 0-0 and Deer Haven was only:
> >
> > Time Wind Gust Direction
> > 17:44 12  15  NE
> > 16:44 13  15  NE
> > 15:44 10  15  NE
> > 14:44 13  18  NE
> > 13:44 15  18  NE
> > 12:44 15  19  NE
> >
> > The proof is in the pics:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snowkiteidaho/photos/album/565111269/pic/list
> >
> > You missed a stellar day, just sayin'!!!
> >
> >
>

 

Wait a minute I should have looked at the numbers. I'll see what it is doing in 2 hrs then decide???????

--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer,
>
> It saw the numbers and did not believe it. I was almost certain that the NW flow in My back yard killed the Katabatic flow. Good job at getting a seshin J-mac.
>
> Anyway I'll represent and head up early today so that I can watch my homeboys play later this afternoon (it's a Cinderella story only 40yrs in the making, they'll probably blow it).
>
> Planning a 10am departure and returning from Camas ~2 ish.
>
>
> Eddy @ Gear Daddy LLC
> geardaddyllc@...
> 208-863-6966
>
> On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Jason wrote:
>
> >
> > That's what all the Hood River & Bend guys who were out in full force at Last Resort kept asking all day.
> >
> > I for the life of me couldn't imagine why we had the place to ourselves, bluebird sky with 3-5" of fresh trackless POW and decent winds for a light day. Between 3-6pm it was steadily blowing mid to upper teens, although the Pine Turnoff meter read 0-0 and Deer Haven was only:
> >
> > Time Wind Gust Direction
> > 17:44 12 15 NE
> > 16:44 13 15 NE
> > 15:44 10 15 NE
> > 14:44 13 18 NE
> > 13:44 15 18 NE
> > 12:44 15 19 NE
> >
> > The proof is in the pics:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snowkiteidaho/photos/album/565111269/pic/list
> >
> > You missed a stellar day, just sayin'!!!
> >
> >
>

 

Give it time... It'll build. What's your hurry, game isn't till 6:30 anyway?

Darrel Thomas

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 7, 2010, at 8:12 AM, "geardaddyllc" <geardaddyllc@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Wait a minute I should have looked at the numbers. I'll see what it is doing in 2 hrs then decide???????

--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer,
>
> It saw the numbers and did not believe it. I was almost certain that the NW flow in My back yard killed the Katabatic flow. Good job at getting a seshin J-mac.
>
> Anyway I'll represent and head up early today so that I can watch my homeboys play later this afternoon (it's a Cinderella story only 40yrs in the making, they'll probably blow it).
>
> Planning a 10am departure and returning from Camas ~2 ish.
>
>
> Eddy @ Gear Daddy LLC
> geardaddyllc@...
> 208-863-6966
>
> On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:38 PM, Jason wrote:
>
> >
> > That's what all the Hood River & Bend guys who were out in full force at Last Resort kept asking all day.
> >
> > I for the life of me couldn't imagine why we had the place to ourselves, bluebird sky with 3-5" of fresh trackless POW and decent winds for a light day. Between 3-6pm it was steadily blowing mid to upper teens, although the Pine Turnoff meter read 0-0 and Deer Haven was only:
> >
> > Time Wind Gust Direction
> > 17:44 12 15 NE
> > 16:44 13 15 NE
> > 15:44 10 15 NE
> > 14:44 13 18 NE
> > 13:44 15 18 NE
> > 12:44 15 19 NE
> >
> > The proof is in the pics:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/snowkiteidaho/photos/album/565111269/pic/list
> >
> > You missed a stellar day, just sayin'!!!
> >
> >
>

15g16 @ 12:30
Lookin' to car pool ASAP.

208-484-6766

Darrel Thomas
Sent from my iPhone

 

15g16 @ 12:30
Lookin' to car pool ASAP.

208-484-6766

Darrel Thomas
Sent from my iPhone

I win (Jack too) you lose!
Wind mid teens snow AWESOME!

Darrel Thomas
Sent from my iPhone

From: Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...>
Date: February 5, 2010 3:06:44 PM MST
To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-
Reply-To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com

 

Okay people, i am going to shoot for Feb.10th 7:30pm. I am looking for a place that has room 20-30 people. anybody got any good suggestions? I will decide for sure by Monday the 8th. People that i would really like to see there...

 

Steve Linane

Jay Jordan

Eddy Petranek 

Darrel Thomas

Jon Bolt

Jack Harris

Tom Caveani

Andrew Goldman

Chris Philp

Jason Mac

The Brick

 

And... Everyone else that wants to be involved.

 

Cheers,

Ryan Waite

---

From: Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@yahoo.com>
To: yahoo group <idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:15:57 PM
Subject: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-

 

Hey everybody!

 

Given the current growth of our sport and the land access issues we face, it is once again time to come together and discuss this evolving access proposal. I just had a long meeting with my lawyer discussing options that benefit we kiters as well as the land owners. I am not going to charge forward without the communities approval so I would like to call a meeting. Please pick some dates.

 

Feb. 8th, or 10th, or 11th

 

If key people cannot make any of these meeting, then we need to plan for the following week

 

Feb. 15th, or 16th, or 17th

 

Please pass this email along to snowkiteidaho yahoo group. please email me if you can make it. Once i get an idea of number of people i will pick a place and time. Please find time to come. We as a group can make vast improvements to our area's parking, bathrooms, and legal access, but as is stands now we are on a path to destruction.

 

Cheers,

Ryan Waite

208-794-8641

Hey Fellas,

Looks like Ryan was able to secure a spot at Harrison Hollow tonight at 7:30
(Tuesday).

Discussions about the future of snowkiting in Idaho. Access, Parking,
elimination/control of  foreigners ;-), etc...

This is a preliminary meeting to share ideas and thoughts, so if you need to
share a thought and want to play a part please do so. The venue is not that
large so I'm not sure if it is vital for everyone to be there. I will gladly
share info from the meeting later tonight.



More importantly I think there is a chance of midday wind so I plan on heading
up.

Eddy





--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, Gear Daddy LLC <geardaddyllc@...> wrote:
>
> Bummer looks like my travel schedule is up in the air. I'm probably heading to
Klamath Falls, this Wed morning instead of next week.
>
> Eddy @ Gear Daddy LLC
> geardaddyllc@...
> 208-863-6966
>
> On Feb 8, 2010, at 5:16 AM, darrelthomas@... wrote:
>
> >
> > Not sure if this has already been forwarded to the group...
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> >> From: Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...>
> >> Date: February 5, 2010 3:06:44 PM MST
> >> To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-
> >> Reply-To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Okay people, i am going to shoot for Feb.10th 7:30pm. I am looking for a
place that has room 20-30 people. anybody got any good suggestions? I will
decide for sure by Monday the 8th. People that i would really like to see
there...
> >>
> >> Steve Linane
> >> Jay Jordan
> >> Eddy Petranek
> >> Darrel Thomas
> >> Jon Bolt
> >> Jack Harris
> >> Tom Caveani
> >> Andrew Goldman
> >> Chris Philp
> >> Jason Mac
> >> The Brick
> >>
> >> And... Everyone else that wants to be involved.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ryan Waite
> >>
> >> From: Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...>
> >> To: yahoo group <idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 6:15:57 PM
> >> Subject: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey everybody!
> >>
> >> Given the current growth of our sport and the land access issues we face,
it is once again time to come together and discuss this evolving access
proposal. I just had a long meeting with my lawyer discussing options that
benefit we kiters as well as the land owners. I am not going to charge forward
without the communities approval so I would like to call a meeting. Please pick
some dates.
> >>
> >> Feb. 8th, or 10th, or 11th
> >>
> >> If key people cannot make any of these meeting, then we need to plan for
the following week
> >>
> >> Feb. 15th, or 16th, or 17th
> >>
> >> Please pass this email along to snowkiteidaho yahoo group. please email me
if you can make it. Once i get an idea of number of people i will pick a place
and time. Please find time to come. We as a group can make vast improvements to
our area's parking, bathrooms, and legal access, but as is stands now we are on
a path to destruction.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Ryan Waite
> >> 208-794-8641
> >>
> >
> >
>

From: Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...>
Date: February 9, 2010 2:18:54 AM MST
To: yahoo group <idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [idahokiteboarding] Meeting 7:30pm Tonight  highlands hollow
Reply-To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com

 

Hey everyone. Made arrangements to meet at Highlands Hollow brewery on Bogus Basin Rd. One block North of Hill Rd.  7:30pm.

 

Hope to see you there.

 

Ryan Waite

All - over the years I've seen problems with access for windsurfers and
MtBikers evolve, often headed in the wrong direction at first. Having a
"united front" with some positive reinforcement (parking control, spring
fence repair, good PR [e.g., Eddy approach] with the real locals, etc.) will
be critical.

I'll make the meeting....which I believe is now planned for Highlands Hollow
at 7:30. But not sure of the date...


Thanks to Ryan for taking the initiative to get everyone together!  Jack


Jack Harrison, PhD, PE, PH-GW
HyQual
208-861-1654

-----Original Message-----
From: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com [mailto:snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of darrelthomas@...
Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 6:53 AM
To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Snowkiteidaho
Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Re: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-



I forwarded to snowkiteidaho.

As far as dates go, pick one, I'll make it. I have an airport pick up the
10th at 9pm. But since I'm old and get up at 4:30, I ain't stayin' out much
past that in on a weekday anyway! :-)

Darrel Thomas
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...> wrote:







	 Hey everybody!

	 Given the current growth of our sport and the land access issues we
face, it is once again time to come together and discuss this evolving
access proposal. I just had a long meeting with my lawyer discussing options
that benefit we kiters as well as the land owners. I am not going to charge
forward without the communities approval so I would like to call a meeting.
Please pick some dates.

	 Feb. 8th, or 10th, or 11th

	 If key people cannot make any of these meeting, then we need to plan
for the following week

	 Feb. 15th, or 16th, or 17th

	 Please pass this email along to snowkiteidaho yahoo group. please
email me if you can make it. Once i get an idea of number of people i will
pick a place and time. Please find time to come. We as a group can make vast
improvements to our area's parking, bathrooms, and legal access, but as is
stands now we are on a path to destruction.

	 Cheers,
	 Ryan Waite
	 208-794-8641

I'm in ,,, 7:30pm Tonight (Tuesday) highlands hollow brewery

--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, "Jack Harrison" <hyqual@...> wrote:
>
> All - over the years I've seen problems with access for windsurfers and
> MtBikers evolve, often headed in the wrong direction at first. Having a
> "united front" with some positive reinforcement (parking control, spring
> fence repair, good PR [e.g., Eddy approach] with the real locals, etc.) will
> be critical.
>
> I'll make the meeting....which I believe is now planned for Highlands Hollow
> at 7:30. But not sure of the date...
>
>
> Thanks to Ryan for taking the initiative to get everyone together!  Jack
>
>
> Jack Harrison, PhD, PE, PH-GW
> HyQual
> 208-861-1654
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com [mailto:snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of darrelthomas@...
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 6:53 AM
> To: idahokiteboarding@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: Snowkiteidaho
> Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Re: [idahokiteboarding] calling all Snowkiters-
>
>
>
> I forwarded to snowkiteidaho.
>
> As far as dates go, pick one, I'll make it. I have an airport pick up the
> 10th at 9pm. But since I'm old and get up at 4:30, I ain't stayin' out much
> past that in on a weekday anyway! :-)
>
> Darrel Thomas
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Ryan Waite <idahokitesports@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Hey everybody!
>
>  Given the current growth of our sport and the land access issues we
> face, it is once again time to come together and discuss this evolving
> access proposal. I just had a long meeting with my lawyer discussing options
> that benefit we kiters as well as the land owners. I am not going to charge
> forward without the communities approval so I would like to call a meeting.
> Please pick some dates.
>
>  Feb. 8th, or 10th, or 11th
>
>  If key people cannot make any of these meeting, then we need to plan
> for the following week
>
>  Feb. 15th, or 16th, or 17th
>
>  Please pass this email along to snowkiteidaho yahoo group. please
> email me if you can make it. Once i get an idea of number of people i will
> pick a place and time. Please find time to come. We as a group can make vast
> improvements to our area's parking, bathrooms, and legal access, but as is
> stands now we are on a path to destruction.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Ryan Waite
>  208-794-8641
>

11:30 departure from Alby's if anyone wants in on a ride

Eddy
863-6966

Hey all -

I'm psyched you're organizing.  I have another event tonight, and can't make the
meeting at the Hollow, but wanted to let you how Winter Wildlands Alliance can
help groups get going and make a different.

WWA has relationships with National Forest and other officials all over the
region, and with elected officials at the state and national level, not to
mention media contacts.  We even have a lobbyist in Washington.

Whatever direction you'd like to go (formal, informal, or something in between),
Winter Wildlands can help.  We're made up of grassroots groups just like the one
you're starting, from large groups with paid staff, to tiny startups with just 2
members.  Most began in response to local access or user conflict issues.  Just
like kiters, most backcountry skiers I work with are not joiners and really like
their solitude, which can make organizing a group a challenge.

If you look at our website (www.winterwildlands.org), you'll see no partner
snowkite organizations listed.  This is only because there aren't many in
existence, and of the very few out there, none have approached us yet.  I spoke
recently with a leader of the one of the national kiting organizations recently
about us affiliating.  We agreed that snowkiting is indeed backcountry riding,
and we both had a lot to gain by working together.  I'll let you know where our
discussions lead.

The WWA website has tips on how to start a grassroots org.  We also can help
negotiate access issues.  Just say the word if you'd like to get together--we
don't charge for our services.  We're a nonprofit after all.

One last thing: it's not kiting, but it's good snowy fun.  Our board and staff
went to Colorado for a strategic planning session last week.  Here's what it
looked like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/18823458@N05/sets/72157623385938956/

Cheers -

Whitney

----- Original Message -----

From: whitnuld

To: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:15 AM

Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup

 

Hey all -

I'm psyched you're organizing. I have another event tonight, and can't make the meeting at the Hollow, but wanted to let you how Winter Wildlands Alliance can help groups get going and make a different.

WWA has relationships with National Forest and other officials all over the region, and with elected officials at the state and national level, not to mention media contacts. We even have a lobbyist in Washington.

Whatever direction you'd like to go (formal, informal, or something in between), Winter Wildlands can help. We're made up of grassroots groups just like the one you're starting, from large groups with paid staff, to tiny startups with just 2 members. Most began in response to local access or user conflict issues. Just like kiters, most backcountry skiers I work with are not joiners and really like their solitude, which can make organizing a group a challenge.

If you look at our website (www.winterwildlands.org), you'll see no partner snowkite organizations listed. This is only because there aren't many in existence, and of the very few out there, none have approached us yet. I spoke recently with a leader of the one of the national kiting organizations recently about us affiliating. We agreed that snowkiting is indeed backcountry riding, and we both had a lot to gain by working together. I'll let you know where our discussions lead.

The WWA website has tips on how to start a grassroots org. We also can help negotiate access issues. Just say the word if you'd like to get together--we don't charge for our services. We're a nonprofit after all.

One last thing: it's not kiting, but it's good snowy fun. Our board and staff went to Colorado for a strategic planning session last week. Here's what it looked like: http://www.flickr.com/photos/18823458@N05/sets/72157623385938956/

Cheers -

Whitney

 

I don't like a plan that involves wait and see and then act.  Land access will become an issue and I think we should organize before it does.  My 90 year old land owner won't stay 90 forever. --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Jason Brickner <jasonbrickner@msn.com> wrote: From: Jason Brickner <jasonbrickner@msn.com> Subject: RE: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup To: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 7:53 AM   Hello guys,   Sorry I didn't make the meeting.  Things are still crazy busy around here still.  Additionally, I really just wanted to stop by and catch up than add any value to the meeting.  I still need to get up there and have some fun this year.   Hope the meeting was productive.   Regards, -Jason From: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:snowkiteida ho@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Linane Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:38 PM To: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup   From reading Whitney's email it looks like WWA has been through this before so no need to reinvent the wheel . I vote that the WWA is the first place we seek help if it comes to that . but I am not convinced we need to do anything at this time . My understanding is the land owners are in the strongest legal position by not acknowledging that we are there . It's a good thing that Monty's 90 year old buddy doesn't remember from year to year. I would prefer that they didn't give us any thought at all .Also I understand that planning for the worst case scenario is prudent , but really , how likely is it that someone will sue if something happens . I won't and I don't know anyone that would . And if we get 86ed from the private land we still have the Snowmobile park to use while we work things out , so that's our fall back plan .So again lets LET IT RIDE . Okay, I will address the parking and the rest rooms too, I guess . I don't believe we could raise the money needed to accomplish this , buying ground and developing it is very far out of the realm of possibilities . A acre with gravel parking and a restroom you couldn't touch for under $75,000.00 . Just to subdivide off one acre could take one to two years and $15,000.00 to $20,000.00 that's if you could get the owner to do it because its a long arduous task . It would be nice to have more parking , I don't want to go up there some day and get aced out because the lot is full . but lets wait and see if that ever happens..... . ----- Original Message ----- From: whitnuld To: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup   Hey all - I'm psyched you're organizing. I have another event tonight, and can't make the meeting at the Hollow, but wanted to let you how Winter Wildlands Alliance can help groups get going and make a different. WWA has relationships with National Forest and other officials all over the region, and with elected officials at the state and national level, not to mention media contacts. We even have a lobbyist in Washington. Whatever direction you'd like to go (formal, informal, or something in between), Winter Wildlands can help. We're made up of grassroots groups just like the one you're starting, from large groups with paid staff, to tiny startups with just 2 members. Most began in response to local access or user conflict issues. Just like kiters, most backcountry skiers I work with are not joiners and really like their solitude, which can make organizing a group a challenge. If you look at our website (www.winterwildland s.org), you'll see no partner snowkite organizations listed. This is only because there aren't many in existence, and of the very few out there, none have approached us yet. I spoke recently with a leader of the one of the national kiting organizations recently about us affiliating. We agreed that snowkiting is indeed backcountry riding, and we both had a lot to gain by working together. I'll let you know where our discussions lead. The WWA website has tips on how to start a grassroots org. We also can help negotiate access issues. Just say the word if you'd like to get together--we don't charge for our services. We're a nonprofit after all. One last thing: it's not kiting, but it's good snowy fun. Our board and staff went to Colorado for a strategic planning session last week. Here's what it looked like: http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 18823458@ N05/sets/ 7215762338593895 6/ Cheers - Whitney

----- Original Message -----

From: Andrew Goldman

To: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 11:57 AM

Subject: RE: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup

 

I don't like a plan that involves wait and see and then act.  Land access will become an issue and I think we should organize before it does.  My 90 year old land owner won't stay 90 forever. --- On Thu, 2/11/10, Jason Brickner <jasonbrickner@msn.com> wrote: From: Jason Brickner <jasonbrickner@msn.com> Subject: RE: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup To: snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 11, 2010, 7:53 AM   Hello guys,   Sorry I didn't make the meeting.  Things are still crazy busy around here still.  Additionally, I really just wanted to stop by and catch up than add any value to the meeting.  I still need to get up there and have some fun this year.   Hope the meeting was productive.   Regards, -Jason From: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:snowkiteida ho@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Steve Linane Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 8:38 PM To: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup   From reading Whitney's email it looks like WWA has been through this before so no need to reinvent the wheel . I vote that the WWA is the first place we seek help if it comes to that . but I am not convinced we need to do anything at this time . My understanding is the land owners are in the strongest legal position by not acknowledging that we are there . It's a good thing that Monty's 90 year old buddy doesn't remember from year to year. I would prefer that they didn't give us any thought at all .Also I understand that planning for the worst case scenario is prudent , but really , how likely is it that someone will sue if something happens . I won't and I don't know anyone that would . And if we get 86ed from the private land we still have the Snowmobile park to use while we work things out , so that's our fall back plan .So again lets LET IT RIDE . Okay, I will address the parking and the rest rooms too, I guess . I don't believe we could raise the money needed to accomplish this , buying ground and developing it is very far out of the realm of possibilities . A acre with gravel parking and a restroom you couldn't touch for under $75,000.00 . Just to subdivide off one acre could take one to two years and $15,000.00 to $20,000.00 that's if you could get the owner to do it because its a long arduous task . It would be nice to have more parking , I don't want to go up there some day and get aced out because the lot is full . but lets wait and see if that ever happens..... . ----- Original Message ----- From: whitnuld To: snowkiteidaho@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 10:15 AM Subject: [snowkiteidaho] Snowkiting meetup   Hey all - I'm psyched you're organizing. I have another event tonight, and can't make the meeting at the Hollow, but wanted to let you how Winter Wildlands Alliance can help groups get going and make a different. WWA has relationships with National Forest and other officials all over the region, and with elected officials at the state and national level, not to mention media contacts. We even have a lobbyist in Washington. Whatever direction you'd like to go (formal, informal, or something in between), Winter Wildlands can help. We're made up of grassroots groups just like the one you're starting, from large groups with paid staff, to tiny startups with just 2 members. Most began in response to local access or user conflict issues. Just like kiters, most backcountry skiers I work with are not joiners and really like their solitude, which can make organizing a group a challenge. If you look at our website (www.winterwildland s.org), you'll see no partner snowkite organizations listed. This is only because there aren't many in existence, and of the very few out there, none have approached us yet. I spoke recently with a leader of the one of the national kiting organizations recently about us affiliating. We agreed that snowkiting is indeed backcountry riding, and we both had a lot to gain by working together. I'll let you know where our discussions lead. The WWA website has tips on how to start a grassroots org. We also can help negotiate access issues. Just say the word if you'd like to get together--we don't charge for our services. We're a nonprofit after all. One last thing: it's not kiting, but it's good snowy fun. Our board and staff went to Colorado for a strategic planning session last week. Here's what it looked like: http://www.flickr. com/photos/ 18823458@ N05/sets/ 7215762338593895 6/ Cheers - Whitney

If it's still blowing, I'm in for 2:00.

--- In snowkiteidaho@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Linane" <stevelinane@...> wrote:
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> looking good now I got a little work this morning . ready to go 11;00 to 12;00
if it holds
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