... I think this is a natural immune reaction to nationalist inflammation. Extreme nationalism is never sustainable, as it tends to produce suffering. People...
Eugen Leitl
eugen@...
Feb 1, 2004 11:47 am
9995
... the indian constitution was adopted in 1951, when india was declared a republic, 3 years after independence from a couple of centuries of foreign rule....
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
rishab@...
Feb 1, 2004 2:35 pm
9996
... does it matter whether the "line" is geographical, or some other sort of artificial divider between groups of people? i'm sure you know what i mean but to...
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
rishab@...
Feb 1, 2004 2:37 pm
9997
there is, of course, the counterpoint to all this ... from Sir Walter Scott's "The Lay of the last Minstrel" Breathes there the man, with soul so dead, Who...
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh@...
Feb 1, 2004 2:45 pm
9998
... So I should just be glad that I wasn't hauled off under POTA eh? "We're stupid, but less so than X" is pretty weak. --Arsalan...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 1, 2004 3:38 pm
9999
... If the divisor is purely an accident of birth, it doesn't. ... Your stand stems from a common misconception held by many Indians. Religion/political...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 1, 2004 3:46 pm
10000
OK, I'll bite. Briefly. Arsalan Zaidi wrote: [ on 09:12 PM 2/1/04 +0530 ] ... Yes, I do. Sort of. That is, I consider my views valid, until proven otherrwise....
Udhay Shankar N
udhay@...
Feb 2, 2004 2:15 am
10001
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: [ on 08:12 PM 2/1/04 +0530 ] ... I'll see your Scott, and raise you a Neil Peart: _Territories_ I see the Middle Kingdom between...
Udhay Shankar N
udhay@...
Feb 2, 2004 2:24 am
10002
... Personally, I think pride in some a group affiliation is a very normal human trait and one of the pillars of one of humanity's strengths -- co-operation. I...
Biju Chacko
biju_chacko@...
Feb 2, 2004 5:08 am
10003
From the "Can you spell irony?" department: http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-12983985,00.html <quote> Tony Blair and George Bush have been nominated...
Madhu Menon
webguru@...
Feb 2, 2004 5:31 am
10004
... Wait, shouldn't those two cancel out? -- ams...
Abhijit Menon-Sen
ams@...
Feb 2, 2004 6:09 am
10005
... Sure it is. Most humans have an emotional need to be part of *something*; to belong. ... Yes, but you *chose* to be part of most of those groups. And it's...
Madhu Menon
webguru@...
Feb 2, 2004 6:22 am
10006
... Most emotions are there for a purpose. However, it always pays to think whether for the purpose of a given individual, or a given group (which might very...
Eugen Leitl
eugen@...
Feb 2, 2004 9:44 am
10007
... Nah. Once you've taken the bait, there's no escape! I'm not letting you go till I've got you stuffed and mounted. :-) ... In other breaking news, the sky...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 2, 2004 10:06 am
10008
... Because people who do not share your views are "intellectual and moral" midgets? Vishal....
Vishal Doshi
Vishal.Doshi@...
Feb 2, 2004 10:21 am
10009
... Doesn't Shiok mean 'cool' or 'great' or something like that? Oh and, "Doh fried rice lana!" :-D --Arsalan...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 2, 2004 10:34 am
10010
... Why? (somewhere deep within, in a way that I cannot fully express in words, I figure there is no morally acceptable reason to disallow entry to a ...
Vishal Doshi
Vishal.Doshi@...
Feb 2, 2004 10:36 am
10011
Ah, shifting from regulation flamebait-and-switch to epistemology for a second. ... Boundaries are *always* arbitrary. It's not all turtles, all the way down. ...
Udhay Shankar N
udhay@...
Feb 2, 2004 11:00 am
10012
... I'll zero in on this... I think group affiliations are fine too. However, they stop making sense when the boundaries are arbitrary. Why do you consider...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 2, 2004 11:01 am
10013
... Hughnon Ridcully is holding on line 1 -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | suresh@... | gpg EDEDEFB9 email sturmbahnfuehrer | lower middle class unix...
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh@...
Feb 2, 2004 11:08 am
10014
... How does that make it different? What is good for me ideologially/politically need not be good for anyone else. It is very Islamic to say that there is...
Vishal Doshi
Vishal.Doshi@...
Feb 2, 2004 11:09 am
10015
... Yes, in many contexts; No, in many other contexts. 'course USN already said this - much more succintly too .... Vishal....
Vishal Doshi
Vishal.Doshi@...
Feb 2, 2004 11:17 am
10016
Looks interesting. srs Hello All, Perhaps you already know about Brian Behlendorf and his contributions to the Open Source movement. Brian, who is the Founder...
Suresh Ramasubramanian
suresh@...
Feb 2, 2004 12:17 pm
10017
... It makes it very different. Let's take the idea of 'human rights' for example. If I believe that all men are equal, then when I come up with a universal...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 2, 2004 2:01 pm
10018
... Who me? Most of my opinions are 'flame-bait' cause they're not run of the mill sheepinions. ... I get the distinct feeling we're talking past each other...
Arsalan Zaidi
arsalan_zaidi@...
Feb 2, 2004 2:39 pm
10019
I think it was Winston Churchill who said, " I disagree completely with what you believe, and shall defend to the death your right to hold that belief" or...
Indrajit Gupta
bonobashi@...
Feb 2, 2004 3:07 pm
10020
... not sure what makes indians more susceptible to this "misconception" - but in any case it doesn't apply to what i was saying. putting aside the fact that...
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
rishab@...
Feb 2, 2004 3:40 pm
10021
... it was voltaire, you perfidious rosbif! -rishab...
Rishab Aiyer Ghosh
rishab@...
Feb 2, 2004 3:52 pm
10022
... I thought that India has only one "national" anthem. And that Zaidi is Indian. Which is why the parley; He has the same rights as any other citizen. No...
Vishal Doshi
Vishal.Doshi@...
Feb 2, 2004 5:03 pm
10023
... who is "we"? ... by "dis" do you mean requiring that everyone respect the country's laws, or having laws that require respect for the country's national...
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