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Steve just posted a brand new version today, with the restructuring of sections. Please read the following chapters: - Kick-Starting the Test-Driven Cycle -...
Hi Steve and Nat, (If anyone from the Silicon Valley Patterns Group follows up on this, please join the "growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests" yahoo group and...
Hi Steve and Nat, (If anyone from the Silicon Valley Patterns Group follows up on this, please join the "growing-oo-software-guided-by-tests" yahoo group and...
Steve and Nat, I largely concur with Russ's comments, but have a different take on the example, with the caveat that I'm only up to chapter 10 of the 4/25...
SVP reviewed the latest "Kick-Starting the Test-Driven Cycle" and "Maintaining the Test-Driven Cycle" tonight. Here are a few comments based on the 08 June...
Off topic, but keeping the record clear... Buried in my earlier feedback I said in passing: I think I coined the term (at least I'd never heard it when I...
... Thanks for the explanation Russ. To clarify, I was growing more and more uncomfortable with a process that involved writing acceptance tests "after" while...
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Hi all, I really had planned to join you guys on my last Tuesday in the US, but my evolving moving arrangements destroyed that wish. Well, I have never been a...
Hi Ralph, Good luck! There's the "real Mountain View" out there in Switzerland, right? ... 2009/6/16 Ralph Jocham <rjocham72@...> ... -- Thanks, -Vlad...
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SVP worked through this chapter on Tuesday. Here are my notes. (I was working off the 8 June draft; at least one person had the 11 June draft) My impression is...
Generally, this chapter has the "lots of forward references to the (moved) example" issue that the prior chapter has. I think we generally liked the chapter. A...
In the introduction, the "it" in "it's out of our control" is slightly ambiguous. To avoid it being misread as referring to "Our needs-led process", being a...
We didn't make it all the way through the chapter in our review on Tuesday. Also, the cardinality of "the group" is 7-8 reviewers. It's common for SVP reviews...
Another nit: in the second test in the "From Procedures to Objects" section: s/rsejectsRequestsOutsideAllowedPeriod/rejectsRequestsOutsideAllowedPeriod/ Wayne...
The group liked the chapter overall. It's going to need a copy-edit pass for grammar, sentence flow, and use of punctuation. In the "Could do Better" callout,...
The group like this chapter. In "Explanatory Assertion Messages", there's a duplicated typo s/getOustandingBalance/getOutstandingBalance/ (missing 't'). We...
The group liked this chapter. On the second page, "Never Pass Null Between Objects" is great advice that might better be given earlier, when you're talking...
The group liked this chapter. The consensus, though, is that this isn't really a special topic, since it's so common (at least to us. We suggest moving it...
An interesting blog entry about one developer's testing habits. Ovid wrote most of Perl's testing frameworks. http://use.perl.org/~Ovid/journal/38616...
... Hear hear. This is more or less what I was yammering about at the start of the book track: if you don't really know what you're building, TDD can become...
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