I have come across some articles written only in Russian and
Mongolian.  If anyone is interested, please contact me off-site.

Kinjal

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 16:55:23 -0400
From: Patrick Levesque <pleves1@...>
Reply-To: Cooks within the SCA <sca-cooks@...>
To: sca-cooks@...
Subject: [Sca-cooks] Romanian Cookbook: Sauces, beef, and snails

Here are more recipes. I did not have time to copy the romanian text as
well, I will be happy to do so at a later time if some of you would like to
double check the translation as well.

One note on measurements: the dram (dramuri) is either a weight measure of
app. 3 metric grams, or a volume measures of app. 3.5 millimeters. The Oca
is a volume measurement, but I could not find the metric equivalent. It
might be about a bottle, 3/4 to a full liter.

a few unknown words: cucunari, a kind of nut seemingly. Sarpurel, and
macris, probably vegetables or plants. Iahnii: may be juniper berries. I've
left the expressions I'm not sure of in Romanian, feel free to give all the
feedback you want!

YIS

Petru 'cel Paros' Voda

P.S. Anghenarii, which I was wondering about, is 'artichoke'. Boranza is
indeed 'borage'. Matacina refers to 'dragon's head', What I thought would
be 'fatty herbs' is actually 'purslane'. Molotru seems to be 'melilot'

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Rosewater.

Have rose flowers, 2 parts, and elderberries, dried in the sun, 1 part.
Lovage(?), 1/2 part, cut them small and put into a boiling pot with ground
clove and cinnamon, 40 dram pistachio, and put in the sun for 8 days. Then
pour in a bucket and remove the water, and add 'moscos' or myrrh or the
drained deposite when you have removed the water.

Another way: Take roseflowers with their flowers yellow inside, 1 (oca), 8
dram cloves, 4 dram myrrh, 12 dram cinnamon, all these well ground and mix
with rose flowers and put in a bucket of well-water, to a soft fire, until
it will (esi) all (humezeala) the rose flowers. Then, remove water and but
in the stun to stand for a month to clarify and have it look beautiful al l
the way through.


Sauces.

Sauce in the imperial way. Have a (ulcelusa zmantuita: boiling pot?) or a
tin pot, in which you put 4 dram ground cinnamon, 2 dram ground cloves, 12
dram sugar, 8 dram vinegar, and cover the pot well with paper, then with
the lid, to perspire well(?). Then put on hot embers to boil until it
reduces by half. This warm sauce is to be eaten with all kinds of roasted
meat, domestic as well as wild animals.

Sauce of Pomegranate. Take seeds of pomegranate, squeeze the juice, 50
dram. Then put in the boiling pot on hot embers, covering well, until it
reduces by half, put in a grain of musk, 8 dram of white sugar. This kind
of sauce is eaten with all kinds of fowls.

Sauce of sardines to be eaten with fried fish and with fried sheep and with
fried wild fowl. Take 6 sardines and clean well with white wine, then put
in pot with oil in times of fast, fresh butter in times of meat, and melt
on the fire. Then put 50 dram vinegar, 24 dram sugar, 2 dram whole
cinnamon, and boil on a gentle fire, covering well.. When you serve over
fried fish, cover with cinnamon.

Sauce of lemon juice to eat with warm roasts, with partridge, pigeon and
hens. Have orange, lemon or grapefruit flowers (50 drams), well ground in a
mortar, then mix well with 36 dram of lemon juice, 12 dram of sugar, 1 dram
of ground cinnamon, and pass through a sieve. Chill and serve over the
roast.

Sauce of butter, to be eaten with asparagus, fried mutton ribs and other
things. Take 50 dram of fresh butter, melt in a pan, then add a fourth part
of nutmeg and a little ground clove, with sugar (16 dram), 3 egg yoalks
beaten with 12 dram of lemon juice. And serve warm with the meal.

Sauce of juniper berries, to be eaten with wild hens, with thrush,
blackbird, and other little game. Take 8 dram of juniper berries, wash well
in white wine and then let stand w days in the wine, removing wine in 2 or
so days. Then boil in a pot with 50 dram good vinegar, 28 dram sugar, a
whole clove and 2 dram whole cinnamon, cover well so it doesn't breathe,
until it reduces by a third.

Green Sauce. Take leaves of parsley, tops of spinach, (macris) to make in
herbs(?), anise and a little mint. Cut small and ground well, with almonds
or nuts, and a slice of fried bread. After you've ground, add ground pepper
and vinegar. Then, when you've ground the herbs well, pass [the liquid]
through a sieve.

Another Green Sauce. Take leaves of parsley, (sarpurel), and a little mint
and other fragrant herbs and ground well, then mix well with pepper, ground
savory, salt, and mix with vinegar, and pass through a sieve.

Sauce of dried plums. Take plums, and put in red wine, with fried
bread[crumbs], then drain, remove the kernel, and grind well [the plums],
and with the with the wine it has soaked in, and with a little verjuice,
mix well, add sugar, cinnamon and pass through a sieve.

Sauce of fragrant herbs. Take basil, parley (4 dram), cleand and crushed
'cucunari' (8 drams) 2 slices of fried bread and soak in rose vinegar and
squeeze the vinegar, ground all in mortar, add white sugar (8 dram), melt
in a little vinegar and with lemon must.

Powdered sauce, to carry everywhere, and long-lasting. 16 dram cinnamon, 2
dram pepper, 1 dram clove, 2 dram nutmeg, 1/2 dram orange peel,
breadcrumbs, then soak in vinegar and dry again, for 24 dram, 24 dram
sugar, 2 dram dried mint. Ground this powder, and when you want to serve
mix with vinegar.


Cow or Ox

Of sirloin. Have the sirloin with its fat and sprinkle with wine and with
rose vinegar and, sprinkling, sprinkle with salt, pepper, cinnamon, cloves,
nutmeg and melilot seeds, all these finely ground, and let stand thus a
little. Then roast on the spit, supporting 'mustul' that will scald it and
when it is about cooked, yet still raw, take the spit and put in a pot, add
2 flasks of meat broth and 1/2 flask of vinegar and one of spiced or
sweetened wine, add "neavand musilez" (spiced wine, again?), dried
cherries, small currants, savory and the juice in which it cooked, and
onions fried in fresh butter, chopped small, and with all these boil. And
when you serve in the pot, add the juice over with cinnamon.

Another dish. After you've sprinkled and fried well, perfectly, put in a
pot, cut in morsels as you please. Then add a little of its juice and mix
with a little vinegar, wine or sugar, and pour over, warm.

Another dish. Have sirloin and cut in morsels, then wash with vinegar, wine
and water, and pass the liquid through a sieve. Then add sirloin in the pot
with this liquid, adding salt, pepper, cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, savory,
slices of bacon, a little boiled must or sugar, chopped onions, and let
stand 2-3 hours; then close the pot with the lid and around with dough, so
it doesn't breathe, and boil slowly, slowly, 2 hours. Then when it is about
to boil, add currants and boil hard.

Udder. Have udders and clean with water and salt, then cut as you please
and fry with fresh butter, and add onions chopped small. Then after frying
put in the pot and add meat broth, to cover by 2-3 fingers, and 2-3 beaten
egg yolks. If you want sour, with lemon juice, if you want meat-flavoured,
with meat broth, salt, pepper and other spices, and boil. And when you
serve, sprinkle with sugar and cinnamon.

Another dish. After you've boiled as above, cut slices of fat with a sharp
knife, then roll well in beaten egg yolks with sugar, rosewater, cinnamon,
safran and breadcrumbs, and fry in fresh butter, and fry. Serve the meal
warm, and cover with suggar or bitter orange juice or lemon juice, and with
cinnamon.

Another dish. Have udders and roast on a spit, not too well, then cut as
you please and put in a pot 'zmantuita' (a boiling pot?) with meat broth to
cover by 2-3 fingers, salt, a little vinegar, and a little white wine,
fried onions chopped small, spices of all kinds, currants, (cucunari... a
kind of nut) or almonds, sugar and boil.

Another dish. Boil with water and salt, drain and put in a pot, cutting as
you please. Then add juice in which it boiled to cover, a little vinegar,
mix with white wine, lard cut small, sugar and 3-4 (cepsoare?) whole,
pepper, cinnamon, savory, cloves and nutmeg, and boil in a closed pot. And
when you serve, put over, as you want, a slice of bread fried in fresh
butter, and cover with cinnamon and sugar.


Snails.

	 For snails, after you've cleaned well of soil with warm water, then
remodev from the shell, and scrubbed with lots of salt, until you've
removed all the slobber, then wash again in some warm watter, that it is
well celaned of slobber and of salt. Afterwards, put in the pot, adding
oil, pepper, salt, cinammon, saffron as you want, chopped herbs, verjuice
as necessary or lemon juice, and water to cover by two fingers and, closing
the pot well with the lid, boil.

	 Another Dish. After you've prepared and removed their shells, put
snails again in their shells after you've cleaned the shells well in some
water, so that they are clean. Then add oil, salt, pepper and fry on the
grillm and in such heat. Without anything over, serve the dish.

	 Another Dish. Prepare the snails well, as customarily done, as said
above, ... and fry with oil. Then, after you've fried them, lay in the pot
and add over leafs of parsley fried and 2 cloves of garlic. Then fry with
parsley and mix with orange or lemon juice, or with crushed almonds and
with vineger passed through a sieve, or with a sauce of fresh parsley,
leaves of "jales" and other herps mixed with rosewater or other odorous
kinds and pass through a sieve, not too thight, yet not too thick.

	 Another dish: After you've prepared as above, pound small with a
little onion and with a little leaves of parley, arrange to have 2 parts of
hashed snails with one of onion and parsley, put salt as necesary, pepper
and a little cinnamon ground fine. Then mix well with all (dinpreuna) and,
after you've well removed the shells, fill with that stuffing and add oil
and a little pepper moreover and fry on the grill.

	 Another dish: To make and 'sweat' after frying with chipped onions,
(dinpreuna) and with root of parsley, mix of all leaves, 'cucunari' whole
and with dried cherries and a little vinegar or lemon juice.

	 Another dish. To make snails and 'iahnii' (juniper?) sweet, with
fried onions chopped small, with root of parsley, salt, pepper a little
clove and cinnammon, and on the margins of the pot put lemon leaves and
other ornaments as you want.


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The saga continues...

Can anyone suggest what a "service according to the Sorbian tradition"
might involve?

[quote]

-----Původní zpráva-----
Od: Robert Brytan <rbsorb@...>
Datum: 01 August 2003 13:02
Předmět: Sorbian parents to take Saxony to court over school closure


Eurolang – The European news agency for minority languages

Sorbian parents to take Saxony to court over school closure

Copenhagen  29/07/03, by Brigitte Alfter

A group of parents from the Sorbian language secondary school in Crostwitz
in the German state of Saxony have decided to run a courtcase against the
state: they do not want their children’s school to be closed.

The lawyer of the group, Thorsten Schmidt, intends to run two cases, an
urgent case to postpone the decision until the main courtcase is solved,
and a principal case to try the question of minority protection as
guaranteed in the constitution of the state of Saxony weighed against
general considerations about public funding as requested in Saxonian
legislation.

Only few weeks before the summer holiday a fax to the local municipality
informed the mayor of Crostwitz that the local public school would not be
paid for anymore after the summer holiday.

The reason given is that there are not enough children. The state of Saxony
recently introduced school legislation requiring at least 20 children per
class and 40 children per school. The Crostwitz school in recent years has
had 13-17 students per class, but after the summer holiday the youngest
class will only have seven students, according to Sorbian and ministry
sources.

Thorsten Schmidt also considers the European perspective in the case and
the fact that Germany has signed both the European Charter for Minority
Languages as well as the Framework Convention for the Protection of
National Minorities.

‘Germany has ratified them – which it was not forced to do. But when the
state has voluntarily agreed, it also has to safeguard it,’ Schmidt says to
Eurolang.

The lawyer is, however, in doubt, whether the case is likely to continue to
the Human Rights Court in Strasbourg. ‘First we have to try this on a
national level,’ he says.

The result of the case will not directly have an impact on other German
provinces, unless European legislation is applied. Still Schmidt does
expect it to be followed carefully in the neighbouring province of
Brandenburg, where about 20.000, approximately one third of the Sorbian
minority, live. The other 40.000 members of the Slavonic minority live in
Saxony.

The province of Schleswig-Holstein, further north in Germany, is also home
to two national minorities, Danes and Frisians, and also guarantees
minority protection in its constitution and might keep an eye on the case,
even though the German provinces enjoy substantial autonomy. Thorsten
Schmidt assumes, that a case like this one will typically take two to three
years before a decision is made in Saxony.

While the case is taking its course, the Sorbians have cancelled holidays;
protests and gatherings have been arranged, with another one due next week.

Earlier this month a letter with a plea for help to preserve the Sorbian
school in Crostwitz, as well as other Sorbian schools, was sent to Pope
John Paul II, who himself visited the school 30 years ago, according to
Sorbian daily Serbske Nowiny.

Also the High Commissioner for National Minorities at the OSCE was
addressed by the major Sorbian organisation Domowina, according to
spokesperson Barbora Felberowa. The German-Czech cooperation group ‘Lusatia
and EU’, where several members of the Czech Parliament are represented,
shortly after signed a plea for the preservation of the school to the
responsible Saxon ministry. Sorbian youth have put up banners at their
school, but they were removed by the local authorities, according to
Serbske Nowiny.

The next event will be held on the 8th of August, the eve of the second
anniversary of the first school strike in Crostwitz two years ago. A
service will be held according to Sorbian tradition, followed by a
gathering at the school to exchange recent information about the case. (EL)

[unquote]

I recall someone was looking for information on hemp
use. I'm still waiting for my boss to remember to
bring the research book with the maps of hemp's spread
through the world and the approximate dates...

but in the mean time (and looking for something
different) I stumbled across a few papers that may
interest you.

Contemp Rev. 1972;220(1276):252-7.
A social history of the use of cannabis sativa.
Hindmarch I.
Publication Types: Historical Article
PMID: 11631818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Indian J Hist Sci. 1981 May;16(1):31-5.
Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in medieval India.
Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
Publication Types: Historical Article
PMID: 11611777 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Indian J Hist Sci. 1981, recu 1982;16(1):31-5.
Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in Medieval India.
Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
Publication Types: Historical Article
PMID: 11611267 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

-Kataryna

And another one...
Prioreschi P, Babin D.
  Ancient use of cannabis.
Nature. 1993 Aug 19;364(6439):680.
PMID: 8355781 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Now, keep in mind most of these will be research
information on the drug use of hemp. For those of us
who are interested in the history of hemp fibre these
papers may not be very helpful - I don't know I
haven't read any more then the abstracts about them.
-Kataryna

Could one of the Moderators check my membership status, and move me
off the Bounce list...

I would check myself, but since "Members" is no longer an option to
anyone but the moderators, I can't.

Thanks,
Su

(Hi Luidmila... how's the babies?)

I am forwarding this (with permission) from another
list.

Would someone literate in Hungarian please respond
directly to this lady in need?
      at     alexscribe@...

Thanks from Soraya Evodia

------------------------------------
From: "Eva Mehlhose" <alexscribe@...> 
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 08:38:12 -0700
Subject: [SCA-Laurels] Scroll text in Hungarian

Heya Cousins....
need once again help with a (at least to me) foreign
language.....and no,
babelfish etc is not accurate enough. I am hoping that
someone on this list
either knows Hungarian themselves or have access to
someone who does.
I am  commissioned to make a scroll for a fighter by
October who has a
very well developed 15th century Hungarian persona.
Help?
Thanks a bunch

Alex the Scribe
oh... I will be at Pennsic by the 9th, encamped in E10
with House
Drachenstein this year.

check it out!

http://www.turmstadt.de/calendar_events_hussaria2003.htm

anya

I am a new S.C.A. member looking for links to Hungarian garb from
the 1400's.  If anyone knows where I can get links to websites or
books please let me know.

Istvan Janosfi
Barony of Illiton  http://www.illiton.org
Kingdom of Midrealm  http://www.midrealm.org

If you're looking at early 1400's, check out the aotc yahoo group...
I'm guessing from your name that you're male, right?  There's a great
book out for women called _Gothic Women's Fashion_ that covers early
15th cen, but there's very little in it for the men.

Good Luck!
Stefania

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "firezboi" <firezboi@y...> wrote:
> I am a new S.C.A. member looking for links to Hungarian garb from
> the 1400's.  If anyone knows where I can get links to websites or

I am looking for information on tattoos that may have been found on a
polish persona around 1300-1400's.  Any links would be greatly
appreciated.  I intend to use henna to apply them, as I have a hard
time believing i could find an image i would want to live with for the
rest of my life.


Thanks for any info

Wladyslaw of Seamarch

Hello, I am new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. I am from a lot of
places
North of the Great Mountain in the Barony of Adiantum and before that Adenveldt.
I've been traveling long and have finally settled in the beautiful and abundant
Bay of
the Principality of the Mists. I have decided to come back into the fold so the
speak
and would love to develop a young female late 12th century Slavic persona. I am
particularly interested the inhabitants of the Tatra Mountains in Poland,
Czechoslovakia and Hungary. I have been trying to research the highlanders,
shepherds & tradesmen whom inhabited these mountains. Anyone who could possibly
point me in the right direction for further research would be most helpful
especially
in the naming department I love the letter J.
I can do the research at the San Francisco Library if any one knows a particular
ISBN
number.

Best Regards, Red

Hi you can try the Renaissance Tailors Website.
Clicks on demos and then scroll down to Eastern European.
She has a lot of very simple rectangular construction ideas as well as Patterns
for
Boots, Hats and Coats.
http://www.vertetsable.com/demos_main.htm

Regards, Red

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "firezboi" <firezboi@y...> wrote:
> I am a new S.C.A. member looking for links to Hungarian garb from
> the 1400's.  If anyone knows where I can get links to websites or
> books please let me know.
>
> Istvan Janosfi
> Barony of Illiton  http://www.illiton.org
> Kingdom of Midrealm  http://www.midrealm.org

Dear sir of Seamarch,
(polish: z Pomorza)
Your question is a difficult one. I've never meet any body art at period
iconography. I think it would rather be banned at this particular region at
this time. The christianity was too fresh and church was still struggling
with paganism and anything like that could be considered an evidence of it
(or witchcraft, black magic etc.).  If you are pagan it is quite different
story. You can adorn yourself with solar crosses or some ornaments very
similiar to that Viking's one.
Magdalena of Vratislavia

----- Original Message -----
From: "TechnoRabbik" <wladyslaw@...>
To: <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:15 PM
Subject: [sig] body Art


> I am looking for information on tattoos that may have been found on a
> polish persona around 1300-1400's.  Any links would be greatly
> appreciated.  I intend to use henna to apply them, as I have a hard
> time believing i could find an image i would want to live with for the
> rest of my life.
>
>
> Thanks for any info
>
> Wladyslaw of Seamarch
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

Hello,
I'm back here, so I can answer your question:

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From: <MoxFool@...>
To: <sig@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [sig] Polish Court?





>>1579 - the great expedition against Pol/ock. In the army of 56.000
soldiers
were in great number squads of Lithuania, Hungary, Scotland and Germany. The
commander of this army was the king personally, and was equipped with a help
of:* 'hetman wielki koronny' (I dont know the English equivalent, something
like the great hetman of a crown) Mikol/aj Mielecki,
*and two Latvian hetmans: the great one Mikol/aj Rudy (the Red) Radziwil/l/,
and the field one Krzysztof Radziwil/l/, called Piorun (the Thunder),
*Jan Zamoyski - Wielki Kanclerz (the Great Chancellor)
* and famous Hungarian general Kaspar Bekiesz.>>

>Wow, fantastic! What is the source of this?

The source is of course in Polish:
"Polska, dzieje cywilizacji i narodu (Poland, the history of nation and
culture)", vol. 3 "Monarchia Jagiellonów" (Monarchy of Jagiellonians)
1399-1586", red. Marek Derwich. Published by: Bertelsmann & Wydawnictwo
Dolnoslaskie, Warszawa-Wroclaw 2003

Magdalena of Vratislavia

> I am particularly interested the inhabitants of the
> Tatra Mountains in Poland, Czechoslovakia and
> Hungary.

Your search may be more fruitful if you refine it to "Slovakia" -
Czechoslovakia ceased to exist over a decade ago, and the word is a purely
political, not geographic, term... so won't be used in any more recent work
of any value.

The Tatras do not extend into modern Hungary, or indeed into the Czech
Republic, but you might also want to look for details of the peoples of the
White Carpathians (Czech/Slovak border) or even the Carpathians proper.

Cheers

Alastair

-----------------------------------------------------
Alastair Millar BSc (Hons) - alastair@...
Translation & Consultancy for the Heritage Industry
P.O. Box 11, CZ 413 01 Roudnice, Czech Republic

--- In sig@yahoogroups.com, "TechnoRabbik" <wladyslaw@m...> wrote:
> I am looking for information on tattoos that may have been found
on a
> polish persona around 1300-1400's.  Any links would be greatly
> appreciated.  I intend to use henna to apply them, as I have a hard
> time believing i could find an image i would want to live with for
the
> rest of my life.
...................................................................
While I have never found any reference to tatoos in that area, many
cutures settling in Solesia and Galacia might have had some, but
would not necessarily have passed them on.  For example, Nestorian
Christians from the East settled in Khazaria in the 10-11th
centuries because of religious freedom, and many moved on to Kiev in
the 12th.  The growing strenght and influence of the Russian Orthdox
church excluded these people and many were sent on West as slaves or
serf labor.  They were tatood with the 'fish' symbol or three 'X' as
a mark of Christ.  In 'Polish' lands they would have been Roman
Christian by fiat and probably actively converted while hiding their
tatoos.

Kinjal
>
>
> Thanks for any info
>
> Wladyslaw of Seamarch

i lived in slovakia for quite some time, and i have a few pictures (ive been
meaning to scan) and have posted germano-slovak names on the list. they are only
male names, though, if you are interested, let me know. i also have a link to a
page thats only in russian, but is about nomadic culture in those parts, you can
run it through a translation for a humorous but still understandable result!
anya



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its in estonia! remember this is for 2004 so everyone has plenty of time to
plan...:-) (2003 Crown tourney is in holland, incidentally)

anya

Julia Christie Amor <julike@...> wrote:
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:04:37 +0300
From: Julia Christie Amor
Subject: Drachenwald Crown Tourney March 2004.
To: DW-L@...

Unto the gentle populace of Drachenwald does Lady Yrmegard Rosenthal send
her greetings.

I am happy to invite you to the next Drachenwald Crown Tourney in medieval
Tallinn. Here is the information about the event.

The site will open on 2004, March 19 at 6PM and will close on March 21 at
11AM. It is the Non-Classical Highschool (Estonia pst 6) in downtown Tallinn
that has previuosly hosted Kingdom University (November 2001) and University
of New Paris (January 2003). It is roughly a 30 EEK (2 euros) cab ride from
the ferry port to the site. We will arrange pickup and delivery for people
who fly into/out of Tallinn.

At the school we have access to a numerous rooms, that can be used for
sleeping and classes, and a large music room which has a wooden floor and
will be perfect for court and socializing/open peerage meetings. The school
has a big soccer field that can be used for fighting and it is right near
the building.

The site fee is 150 EEK (10 euros) for SCA members, 195 EEK (13 euros) for
non-members. And there is a late fee of 60 EEK (4 euros) for reservations
after February 15, 2004.

There are nearby hotels for people who want to sleep in comfort. A hotel
package will cost (including the ferry from Helsinki) about 95 euros per
person - perhaps less as we can't get the winter prices yet. This will
include breakfast on Saturday and Sunday as well.

The school will provide meals on a per head basis of 120EEK (8 euros). This
is a package per head, for dinner Friday night, breakfast Saturday and
Sunday, and lunch Saturday.

The feast Saturday night will be held at Olde Hansa. This will be a catered
feast on the 3rd floor, with the 3rd floor reserved only for us from 9 PM to
1 AM. The feast will contain sufficient food for vegetarians. The cost will
be 310 crowns (20 euros) per person, not including drinks, everyone will
need to buy their own drinks - they cannot bring alcohol into the restaurant
(the price of an average glass of beer at the restaurant is only 40 EEK
(2.75 euros)). Children 6-12 half price, under 6 free. The feast will be
limited to 150 people. However, there are plenty of cheap restaurants in
the area, and we will be providing a list of those for people who do not
wish the feast at Olde Hansa or do not get it.

Olde Hansa is about a 10 minute walk from the school. While we cannot take
everyone back and forth, we will be able to take the people for whom the
walk will be a hardship.

Both Olde Hansa and the school provide feast gear so there is no need to
bring feast gear, which will make things easier for those flying. What one
needs to bring is soft shoes not used outside for entering the big hall that
has very fine wooden floor.

Please do take into consideration that the site is dry but we will provide
a list of nearby pubs and bars.

The Barony of Aarnimetsa is sponsoring the event, and will take
pre-registrations through their giro account. So for people from Aarnimetsa
the only valid registration is a paid registration.Others may pay at the
door.

Mistress Jaelle has agreed to provide crash space for those arriving to
Helsinki the day before and/or the day after and to coordinate their trip
from/to
Helsinki and Tallinn. For additional information please contact her at
jaelle@....

Virtually everyone in Drachenwald will not need a visa to visit Estonia. No
one with an EU passport, USA passport, or UK. However, anyone with a South
African passport or Canadian one will need a visa (people with passports
from countries not listed should check with the embassy). However, these
visas are normally not difficult to get.

For any other information feel free to contact the autocrat:

Lady Yrmegard Rosenthal
Julia Amor
Linnamae tee 11-169
Tallinn 13912 Estonia
+372 55 75 789
julike@....


Yours in service,

Yrmegard Rosenthal
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http://archaeology.kiev.ua/journal/eng/

anya



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Has anyone ever been to the National Czech and Slovak Museum and
Library in Cedar Rapids, IA?  My family lives in and around Cedar
Rapids, so I was thinking of stopping by next month when I go for my
nephew's baptism.  I visited the museum a couple years ago, but I
wasn't as interested in medieval Eastern Europe as I am now, so I'm
hoping I can get a lot more out of it this time.  :)  Their website is
http://www.ncsml.org/

Pani Alzbeta

anybody have 7000 dollars just laying around? wanna spend it on a real kievan
necklace?
look here:
http://www.ancienttouch.com/hunnish-jewelry.htm

even if you cant afford it, its still great documentation!
anya





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I thought this might be useful to those interested in Poland:

Political Thought in Renaissance Poland: An Anthology in English
translated, introduced and annotated by Harold B. Segel ISBN: 0-940962-61-6

$18.00 ($15.30 for PIASA members)
"shipping and handling: $2.50 for first book, .50 for each additional book (USPS
media rate); $3.50 for first book, .50 for each additional book (USPS priority)

Make checks out to PIASA; credit card orders also accepted at (212) 686-4164"
http://www.piasa.org/segel.htm

There is also a journal, The Polish Review, that might be of use to folks.  The
last couple of issues seem to be mostly modern topics, but there might be
something of use in earlier issues.

http://www.piasa.org/polishreview.html

In service, I remain

Cainder

That was me! Thank you very much!

> I recall someone was looking for information on hemp
> use. I'm still waiting for my boss to remember to
> bring the research book with the maps of hemp's spread
> through the world and the approximate dates...
>
> but in the mean time (and looking for something
> different) I stumbled across a few papers that may
> interest you.
>
> Contemp Rev. 1972;220(1276):252-7.
> A social history of the use of cannabis sativa.
> Hindmarch I.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11631818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>
> Indian J Hist Sci. 1981 May;16(1):31-5.
> Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in medieval India.
> Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11611777 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>
> Indian J Hist Sci. 1981, recu 1982;16(1):31-5.
> Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in Medieval India.
> Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11611267 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> -Kataryna
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

-- Pani Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika   jenne@...
"History celebrates the battlefields whereon we meet our death, but scorns
to speak of the plowed fields whereby we thrive. It knows the names of the
king's bastards but cannot tell us the origin of wheat. This is the way of
human folly." -- Jean-Henri Fabre

I'm still waiting on the maps....
My boss lent out the book... so now it's floating
around the local various university profs labs.
Hopefully by Wednesday. Sigh.
If you want any other technical info on the plant,
I'll be happy to share.... I'll be playing with Hemp
bast fibres in a few weeks. If anyone has worked with
flax (or hemp) Bast - could they contact me private
(kataryna_dragonweaver @ yahoo.com  - remove the
spaces).
Thanks.
-Kataryna

--- jenne@... wrote:
>
> That was me! Thank you very much!
>
> > I recall someone was looking for information on
> hemp
> > use. I'm still waiting for my boss to remember to
> > bring the research book with the maps of hemp's
> spread
> > through the world and the approximate dates...
> >
> > but in the mean time (and looking for something
> > different) I stumbled across a few papers that may
> > interest you.
> >
> > Contemp Rev. 1972;220(1276):252-7.
> > A social history of the use of cannabis sativa.
> > Hindmarch I.
> > Publication Types: Historical Article
> > PMID: 11631818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> >
> >
> > Indian J Hist Sci. 1981 May;16(1):31-5.
> > Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in medieval
> India.
> > Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> > Publication Types: Historical Article
> > PMID: 11611777 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> >
> >
> > Indian J Hist Sci. 1981, recu 1982;16(1):31-5.
> > Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in Medieval
> India.
> > Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> > Publication Types: Historical Article
> > PMID: 11611267 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
> >
> > -Kataryna
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
> -- Pani Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika
> jenne@...
> "History celebrates the battlefields whereon we meet
> our death, but scorns
> to speak of the plowed fields whereby we thrive. It
> knows the names of the
> king's bastards but cannot tell us the origin of
> wheat. This is the way of
> human folly." -- Jean-Henri Fabre
>
>

I would love to know what you learn when you 'play' with the hemp fibers.
I'm trying to learn as much as possible of the fiber/filament level of
textiles.
I have a lead on a book on hemp and dyeing that I'll be following up but
want to know "everything" ;)

Maria P

>
> I'm still waiting on the maps....
> My boss lent out the book... so now it's floating
> around the local various university profs labs.
> Hopefully by Wednesday. Sigh.
> If you want any other technical info on the plant,
> I'll be happy to share.... I'll be playing with Hemp
> bast fibres in a few weeks. If anyone has worked with
> flax (or hemp) Bast - could they contact me private
> (kataryna_dragonweaver @ yahoo.com  - remove the
> spaces).
> Thanks.
> -Kataryna
>

Hi,
I was looking for this information on SIG list:)
Thanks. I am interested in the inlay that was used on the
turn of the 14th century in Poland. Yes yes...its is very
specific question:)
Wojtek from Poland

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That was me! Thank you very much!

> I recall someone was looking for information on hemp
> use. I'm still waiting for my boss to remember to
> bring the research book with the maps of hemp's spread
> through the world and the approximate dates...
>
> but in the mean time (and looking for something
> different) I stumbled across a few papers that may
> interest you.
>
> Contemp Rev. 1972;220(1276):252-7.
> A social history of the use of cannabis sativa.
> Hindmarch I.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11631818 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>
> Indian J Hist Sci. 1981 May;16(1):31-5.
> Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in medieval India.
> Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11611777 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
>
> Indian J Hist Sci. 1981, recu 1982;16(1):31-5.
> Medicinal use of opium and cannabis in Medieval India.
> Chaturvedi GN, Tiwari SK, Rai NP.
> Publication Types: Historical Article
> PMID: 11611267 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
>
> -Kataryna
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>

-- Pani Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika
jenne@...
"History celebrates the battlefields whereon we meet our
death, but scorns
to speak of the plowed fields whereby we thrive. It
knows the names of the
king's bastards but cannot tell us the origin of wheat.
This is the way of
human folly." -- Jean-Henri Fabre


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positively reviewed in CHOICE magazine:

  Kontler, László (Laszlo).  A history of Hungary: millennium in Central
Europe.  Palgrave, 2003 (c2002). 527p bibl index ISBN 1-403-90316-6

-- Pani Jadwiga Zajaczkowa, Knowledge Pika jenne@...
"This heavenly city, then, while it sojourns on earth, calls citizens
out of all nations, and gathers together a society of pilgrims of all
languages, not scrupling about diversities in manners, laws, and
institutions whereby earthly peace is secured and maintained, but
recognizing that, however various these are, they all tend to one and
the same end of earthly peace." -- St.  Augustine of Hippo

Hi all,
I've started working with the local Scribes Guild, and was wondering if
anyone could translate "illuminator" or "illustrator" into Russian for me?

Thanks in advance,
Su of the Silver Horn, Caid
Su Ralston, Fullerton, CA